Check Your Preferences

OK, fair warning: we’re in week 10 or so of this lockdown thing, and the men of GLoP are getting a bit punchy. Add to that some technical issues and being a punching bag in certain quarters, and well, you get a very shall we say, eccentric show. How so? Well, as you’ll hear, we abandon the first take and start the show all over again about ten minutes in. And in the interests of transparency (and comedy) we left our screws-ups in (well, most of them). We cover a range of topics (including this YouTube video tracking hit TV shows of the past 60 years) and go down a host of tangents — too many to list and spoil here. What we can tell you is that you’ll laugh, you’ll marvel at some middle aged juvenile jokes, you may be offended, and you’ll definitely learn a lot about fly and zipper technology. We did.

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  1. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    I love it. You guys do not know why Trump won the election. Anybody that listens to you guys should understand why he won.

    • #1
    • May 29, 2020, at 7:27 AM PDT
    • 12 likes
  2. ToryWarWriter Thatcher

    Oh great. Another GLOP that I had to give up on as three people who have learned nothing about the President in the last 3 and a half years prove there ignorance.

    I do agree with Rob when he basically rolled his eyes knowing that there is no way this was going to end well.

    I will try your show again in a few episodes maybe you will have learned by then.

    • #2
    • May 29, 2020, at 9:13 AM PDT
    • 3 likes
  3. Bishop Wash Member

    With all the PSAs telling me to “Stop, drop, and roll” as a child, I expected to catch on fire at some point in my life. 

    The mattress tag removal was a staple of comedy growing up and I’ve heard it some within the last year. It was funny until I read the tag and what the penalty actually is. 

    Adam Carolla has talked about it and I think the GLoP guys have as well that souffle humor was a go-to sitcom gag for a while. 

    • #3
    • May 29, 2020, at 9:18 AM PDT
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  4. Barry Jones Thatcher

    Jonah and Jon observed and did detailed studies during the last Presidential election on why Trump was never going to make it. Jon confidently predicted the end of the Trump Presidency when the special counsel was appointed and they have been collectively wrong each time. Their horror over the last Trump Tweet thing is similar…out here in Fly Over Country Biden’s “you ain’t Black” comment is still a thing(a big thing) and no one (NO ONE) has any idea about the Trump Tweet on Scarborough or would care much if they did. They live in their own bubble and like a lot of theorists they seem to be good on theory but not so good on what actually is happening. They are being left behind by events and are so stuck in the mounds of their experience and knowledge that their ability to cope with a different environment is limited – non existent.

    • #4
    • May 29, 2020, at 9:30 AM PDT
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  5. Joe D. Lincoln

    man, i guess someone should hire rob long to supervise user interface development. sounds like hes an expert…

    • #5
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:15 AM PDT
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  6. Arahant Member

    There was some really stanky unfurling going on here.

    • #6
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:31 AM PDT
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  7. Jordan Henderson Coolidge

    Loved the episode. I’m a boomer and I loved the discussion of tropes, I think the kids call them these days, from old cartoons. The thing about anvils never occurred to me, but that’s a great point. I hadn’t actually seen an anvil until I was in my 20s.Angola

    one great thing about the Internet and search engines is that you can lookup cultural touchstones that you could tell were being referenced, but you didn’t know what they were referring to. Case in point: the Loonie Times character Foghorn Leghorn. I could tell the character was using catch phrases that were supposed to be understood as being a parody, but I didn’t know if any movie characters like this. Turns out, it was a reference to Fred Allen radio character Senator Claghorn. I’ve listened to some of these bits on the internet and they are great.

    • #7
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:32 AM PDT
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  8. Blue Yeti Admin

    I’m no expert, but why he won three years ago seems to me to have little or no bearing on what will happen this November, which is what the brief political conversation (3 or 4 minutes out of a 71 minute podcast) in this episode was about. The President will have to run on his record and will also not have the luxury –and make no mistake about it, that’s what it was– of running against Hillary Clinton.

    Also, I am so sorry you all take mild criticism of a politician so personally. We’ll try to do better the next time.

    • #8
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:35 AM PDT
    • 6 likes
  9. Hoyacon Member

    Before I start, any shots about the “grotesqueness” of Kayleigh McEnany in here? Forewarned is forearmed.

    • #9
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:35 AM PDT
    • 3 likes
  10. Blondie Thatcher

    Thanks for the link about TV shows. That is very interesting. Looks like CBS has had the majority of shows up there. 

    • #10
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:36 AM PDT
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  11. Blue Yeti Admin

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    Before I start, any shots about the “grotesqueness” of Kayleigh McEnany in here? Forewarned is forearmed.

    NO SPOILERS.

    • #11
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:38 AM PDT
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  12. Arahant Member

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Before I start, any shots about the “grotesqueness” of Kayleigh McEnany in here? Forewarned is forearmed.

    That term did not come up, although they did have a lot of trouble with her name.

    • #12
    • May 29, 2020, at 10:59 AM PDT
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  13. FredGoodhue Coolidge

    Trump won because he had an incredibly corrupt and politically incompetent opponent.

    • #13
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:05 AM PDT
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  14. Hoyacon Member

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Trump won because he had an incredibly corrupt and politically incompetent opponent.

    So sounds like second time might be the charm too.

    • #14
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:13 AM PDT
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  15. Bishop Wash Member

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Trump won because he had an incredibly corrupt and politically incompetent opponent.

    Good for the Democratics that they learned and picked someone from the scandal free Obama administration and who is firing on all his cylinders. 

    • #15
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:13 AM PDT
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  16. Bishop Wash Member

    The new Battlestar Galactica strayed from social commentary but stumbled back into it for the finale. Like the America that voted to destroy itself by electing Obama, the ragtag group of humans voted to give up their technology on what turned out to be Earth. 

    • #16
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:20 AM PDT
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  17. Franco Member
    FrancoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    I’m no expert, but why he won three years ago seems to me to have little or no bearing on what will happen this November, which is what the brief political conversation (3 or 4 minutes out of a 71 minute podcast) in this episode was about. The President will have to run on his record and will also not have the luxury –and make no mistake about it, that’s what it was– of running against Hillary Clinton.

    Crack political analysis, with confidence!

    This is why the GOP has been losing ( or barely winning) since 1992. Our pundits are political morons. They told us we lost the Hispanic vote in 2012 over immigration. Trump came out swinging on the issue and got a better Hispanic vote. Surprise! ( but no self-awareness)

    They had no problems with nominating John McCain, essentially believing the media would be neutral. They thought that McCain’s niceguy approach towards Obama ( not going after his very close association with Rev. Wright for one thing) was a good approach. They didn’t understand that Americans of both parties had soured on the warmongering new-con element firmly in charge of the RNC/GOP. 

    They held firmly the position that GOP candidates should never really challenge the media, often calling any complaint from conservatives “whining”. Romney followed their advice and let Candy Crowley walk on him in a debate with Obama over a crucial point.

    These are the people who were absolutely sure Hillary would win. Now Yeti (and others?) claim she was a bad candidate. (Hey, she might just be the 2020 nominee yet!) . 

    Hillary had a giant network, four times the money than Trump, much more experience, was a ‘ minority’ who had huge support and enthusiasm from feminists, and backed by the MSM, who were significantly more credible in 2015-16 than now.

    As though Trump doesn’t have the “luxury” of running against Biden. Joe “you don’t have to do this” Biden, who is the poster boy for the establishment Democrats, utterly uninspiring, and frail of body and mind. The split in the Democrat Party is still there. Progressives are not happy with Biden, and they don’t really dislike Trump as much as they pretend. So they will stay home, or vote third party.

    Now, Trump has a track record, unprecedented support from his base, a crack campaign team, (notably loser consultants like Murphy, Wilson, Steve Smith, are absent) and plenty of money. 

    Yes 2020 is not like 2016, that’s true (!) but to be so confident – as though the only reason Democrats lost, and Trump won, was Hillary Clinton is evidence of very shallow political analysis. But that’s what we are getting from this crowd.

    If they can’t make a forensic analysis accurately, how can anyone trust them on prognostications. Based on what? Hillary being a bad candidate? 

     

     

    • #17
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:24 AM PDT
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  18. Britanicus Member
    BritanicusJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This has been one of my favorite GLOP episodes to date. I would like to formally request that Blue Yeti creates technical issues before each podcast so that the guys go into “rant mode” immediately. Here’s a brief list of things I love about GLOP:

    1. Rants 
    2. Expletives about why the guys are in a shi**y mood
    3. When Jonah tells John to “go to hell”
    4.  Off topic stories and diversions from Rob & Jonah that force John into the impossible task of steering them back on topic
    5. Stories about John or Jonah’s childhoods (I don’t recall too many about Rob’s childhood.. perhaps there’s something to dig up..)
    6. Hollywood stories 
    7. The salty comments from Trump supporters anytime one of the guys dares to criticize our fearless leader
    8. Hearing about TV shows that I’ve never seen and probably will never watch
    9. The banter and bickering that can only happen when people who know each other very well and who are comfortable being themselves have a conversation about anything
    10. Anytime Rob or Jonah’s remarks send John into a laughing fit

    A few thoughts about Jonah, John, and Rob. I’ve been listening to GLOP before it was even called GLOP; back when Mark Steyn was on the podcast. I was initially slow to warm up to John, as Mark is a tough act to follow. However, John has grown on me immensely and I find him to be an endearing, genuine, funny (in his own way), and most enjoyable writer/podcast host. Now I find myself listening to almost every episode of Commentary’s daily podcasts.

    Jonah was one of the first conservative writers I started reading. I first came across him on the pages of National Review and NRO and he very influential in my journey away from the left. I’ve read/listened to all of his books and subscribe to every podcast he’s involved with. 

    And, what to say about Rob? Is there a more witty, charming, and clever man alive? As much as I love Peter and James, whenever Rob is absent from the Ricochet Podcast it feels slightly diminished. (Note: This is not a criticism of James or Peter!) I first encountered Rob on National Review several years ago when I was in college… woah, I’ve been out of college for a while now.. and when Ricochet came along I hopped right on.

    Well, this is enough musing for one day. Time for another Zoom meeting! 

    Suffice to say, I loved this episode so much that I went and subscribed (monthly) to both The Dispatch and Commentary (I was already a paying member of Ricochet).

    Great work guys, I truly can’t tell you how much joy this podcast (and everything else that you guys are up to) brings me. I’ve probably spent weeks’ worth of time happily listening, thinking, and laughing along with you all. Thank you.

    P.S. salute to the Yeti for everything behind the scenes.

    • #18
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:33 AM PDT
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  19. Arahant Member

    Britanicus (View Comment):
    I would like to formally request that Blue Yeti creates technical issues before each podcast so that the guys go into “rant mode” immediately.

    Seconded.

    • #19
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:38 AM PDT
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  20. Britanicus Member
    BritanicusJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    The new Battlestar Galactica strayed from social commentary but stumbled back into it for the finale. Like the America that voted to destroy itself by electing Obama, the ragtag group of humans voted to give up their technology on what turned out to be Earth.

    (shudder) I still can’t believe how terrible the finale was. I can’t decide what was worse, the ending of Battlestar, or Game of Thrones. In either case, the final seasons/episodes ruined the entire series for me.

    • #20
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:38 AM PDT
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  21. Arahant Member

    (Except, of course, Yeti doesn’t have to do anything, since the technology will do it by itself.)

    • #21
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:39 AM PDT
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  22. Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… Member

    I wanted to hear the Auschwitz joke.

    • #22
    • May 29, 2020, at 11:51 AM PDT
    • 3 likes
  23. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    I’m no expert, but why he won three years ago seems to me to have little or no bearing on what will happen this November, which is what the brief political conversation (3 or 4 minutes out of a 71 minute podcast) in this episode was about. The President will have to run on his record and will also not have the luxury –and make no mistake about it, that’s what it was– of running against Hillary Clinton.

    Also, I am so sorry you all take mild criticism of a politician so personally. We’ll try to do better the next time.

    Hear, hear! I think it is not GLOP who hasn’t learned anything since 2016.

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    • May 29, 2020, at 12:14 PM PDT
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  24. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Trump won because he had an incredibly corrupt and politically incompetent opponent.

    So sounds like second time might be the charm too.

    Maybe. But only if the economy gets humming again. Otherwise, Trump goes from being a creep with a great economy to just being a creep. And Biden is not as scary as Hillary to a lot of people. He should be, but the old “Good ol’ Joe” schtick still seems to work for him and a lot of voters think he is a moderate. He isn’t and he will be a tool of the left. Especially if the House and the Senate go to the Dems.

    You’d think that Trump would have learned a little self control by now. But then he wouldn’t be Trump. 

    • #24
    • May 29, 2020, at 12:21 PM PDT
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  25. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Editor Note:

    Replaced curse word.

    Franco (View Comment):

    Yes 2020 is not like 2016, that’s true (!) but to be so confident – as though the only reason Democrats lost, and Trump won, was Hillary Clinton is evidence of very shallow political analysis. But that’s what we are getting from this crowd.

    If they can’t make a forensic analysis accurately, how can anyone trust them on prognostications. Based on what? Hillary being a bad candidate?

    Trump was the devil a lot of voters didn’t know in 2016 so they took a chance. It was fine until the Pandemic. Now he is the devil they know with a [bad] economy. Not his fault but that won’t matter to a lot of voters. A V shaped recovery could still save him though.

    • #25
    • May 29, 2020, at 12:24 PM PDT
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  26. Hoyacon Member

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    FredGoodhue (View Comment):

    Trump won because he had an incredibly corrupt and politically incompetent opponent.

    So sounds like second time might be the charm too.

    Maybe. But only if the economy gets humming again. Otherwise, Trump goes from being a creep with a great economy to just being a creep. And Biden is not as scary as Hillary to a lot of people. He should be, but the old “Good ol’ Joe” schtick still seems to work for him and a lot of voters think he is a moderate. He isn’t and he will be a tool of the left. Especially if the House and the Senate go to the Dems.

    You’d think that Trump would have learned a little self control by now. But then he wouldn’t be Trump.

    That is undeniably true, but you are overselling Biden IMO. Scary is not the issue, inept is. And I would not overlook a Trump campaign that will no longer be run by castoffs and rookies. It’s a very important, if overlooked, aspect of this whole thing.

     

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    • May 29, 2020, at 12:29 PM PDT
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  27. Hammer, The Member

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Oh great. Another GLOP that I had to give up on as three people who have learned nothing about the President in the last 3 and a half years prove there ignorance.

    I do agree with Rob when he basically rolled his eyes knowing that there is no way this was going to end well.

    I will try your show again in a few episodes maybe you will have learned by then.

    Wait, what?

    They are totally right about the Scarborough tweet business. Perhaps I haven’t made it far enough into the podcast?

    • #27
    • May 29, 2020, at 12:36 PM PDT
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  28. Blue Yeti Admin

    Franco (View Comment):

    Crack political analysis, with confidence!

    This is why the GOP has been losing ( or barely winning) since 1992. Our pundits are political morons. They told us we lost the Hispanic vote in 2012 over immigration. Trump came out swinging on the issue and got a better Hispanic vote. Surprise! ( but no self-awareness)

    They had no problems with nominating John McCain, essentially believing the media would be neutral. They thought that McCain’s niceguy approach towards Obama ( not going after his very close association with Rev. Wright for one thing) was a good approach. They didn’t understand that Americans of both parties had soured on the warmongering new-con element firmly in charge of the RNC/GOP.

    They held firmly the position that GOP candidates should never really challenge the media, often calling any complaint from conservatives “whining”. Romney followed their advice and let Candy Crowley walk on him in a debate with Obama over a crucial point.

    These are the people who were absolutely sure Hillary would win. Now Yeti (and others?) claim she was a bad candidate. (Hey, she might just be the 2020 nominee yet!) .

    Hillary had a giant network, four times the money than Trump, much more experience, was a ‘ minority’ who had huge support and enthusiasm from feminists, and backed by the MSM, who were significantly more credible in 2015-16 than now.

    As though Trump doesn’t have the “luxury” of running against Biden. Joe “you don’t have to do this” Biden, who is the poster boy for the establishment Democrats, utterly uninspiring, and frail of body and mind. The split in the Democrat Party is still there. Progressives are not happy with Biden, and they don’t really dislike Trump as much as they pretend. So they will stay home, or vote third party.

    Now, Trump has a track record, unprecedented support from his base, a crack campaign team, (notably loser consultants like Murphy, Wilson, Steve Smith, are absent) and plenty of money.

    Yes 2020 is not like 2016, that’s true (!) but to be so confident – as though the only reason Democrats lost, and Trump won, was Hillary Clinton is evidence of very shallow political analysis. But that’s what we are getting from this crowd.

    If they can’t make a forensic analysis accurately, how can anyone trust them on prognostications. Based on what? Hillary being a bad candidate?

    Hey Franco! Long time, no comment.

    When you have a sec, go look at how Bernie Sanders performed against HRC in the Democratic primaries vs. how he did against Biden. Spoiler alert: in 2016, he was strong enough to keep the primary race going to the end of June and had a lot of leverage at the convention. Against Biden, Bernie was effectively toast after Super Tuesday and will have no real presence at the convention (assuming there even is one). What’s the difference between the ’16 and ’20 primaries? Everyone say it with me: Hillary Rodham Clinton. Even for rank and file Democrats and swing voters, she was extremely unpopular. The President also got a ton of help from James Comey, the NYT, and Wikileaks. Doubtful those conditions are going to occur again.

    I have said this in other threads, but I’ll say it again here: I would vastly prefer that the President be re-elected and that Republicans hold the Senate. Pointing out how he is hurting himself with voters in swing states (the only ones that count) is not #NeverTrump and it’s not endorsing Biden. It’s a plea for the President perhaps be a bit more circumspect about say, accusing someone of murder on Twitter and dragging a grieving family who are not public into it. Is that too much to ask?

    And @franco, you come out swinging against my “very shallow political analysis.” Fair enough (I said I was no expert). So, Kreskin, what’s your prediction?

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    • May 29, 2020, at 12:37 PM PDT
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  29. kedavis Member

    In the past, @jameslileks has occasionally pointed out that even in the 60s, the “counter-culture” was actually the COUNTER-culture because The Culture was still largely in effect.

    I think his larger point is that the 60s may have changed “the culture” a lot for SOME people, but it was far from an overwhelming force of nature that overtook the entire country.

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    • May 29, 2020, at 1:54 PM PDT
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  30. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    That is undeniably true, but you are overselling Biden IMO. Scary is not the issue, inept is. And I would not overlook a Trump campaign that will no longer be run by castoffs and rookies. It’s a very important, if overlooked, aspect of this whole thing.

    They won’t really be voting for Biden, they will be voting for his VP. Biden is just a placeholder.

    • #30
    • May 29, 2020, at 1:56 PM PDT
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