Bodyslamming, Trump in Europe, the great Mollie Hemingway (you are hereby ordered to buy her new Encounter Broadside Trump vs. The Media right now), the lies we tell ourselves about terrorism (thanks John Kluge), and Peter Robinson once hung out with Roger Moore. No, we didn’t know that either. Happy summer, everyone.

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    • May 26, 2017 at 1:31 pm
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    The margins are shrinking because Republicans have allowed Democrats to create a whole new voting base from out of control immigration.

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    EJHill (View Comment):

    I have a padded collar velvet smoking jacket similiar to this in a black watch tartan.

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    James is of course right about the light touch Roger Moore brought to playing Bond, but he has forgotten a few pretty vicious kills, the more startling because of Moore’s performance. They appear in this clip at 0:23, 1:02, 1:44 (where the editor should be docked for omitting Bond’s tag line, “What a helpful chap!”), 2:14, 2:32, 3:07, and especially 5:05 (from “For Your Eyes Only,” Moore’s most Connery-esque Bond film; that clip also hurt by omission of dialogue). Plus a non-fatal honorable mention at 1:08:

    Also, Rob has forgotten the best bit of the snake incineration scene, which is Bond proceeding to use the aerosol for its intended purpose after using it to dispatch with the intruder (climax and denouement at 1:50):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GlfIStWMSY.

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    • May 26, 2017 at 2:03 pm
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    If media followed more professional wrestling, they’d understand Trump better. Also bodyslamming.

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    • May 26, 2017 at 2:06 pm
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    Do you know who wrote that abomination we call Obamacare? Some guy named Max Baucus. Anyone know where he was from? Oh, yeah. Montana. The state that has a Democratic governor, a Democrat in the Senate and was the home to Mike Mansfield, LBJ’s Senate guide for all of his Great Society welfare programs.

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    • May 26, 2017 at 2:55 pm
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    I read Mollie’s broadside a few days ago. It provides a good explanation of why I have little sympathy for Ben Jacobs. The media has burned its credibility. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad person, certainly doesn’t mean he deserves to get thrown to the ground. But, whether unfairly or not, it does mean that I actually don’t believe his account. Now, something did happen. But we don’t know what and I don’t trust a reporter not to try to bring down a Republican candidate on the literal eve of an election.

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  8. Profile photo of You ain't no Eric Hoffer Inactive

    Legally speaking, grabbing someone by the neck, shoving them and breaking his glasses is assault. Assaulting someone for being annoying is illegal for a reason. If you’re going to be associated with a political tribe who says, for instance, one has a reasonable expectation of being shot for making a police officer feel unsafe, it’s probably not a brilliant idea mealy mouth an assault by someone in public office on a reporter. A guy who can’t keep his hands to himself is a guy who’s not fit to supervise a shift at Burger King, let alone sit in Congress. Gee whiz; since when does that not go without saying in conservative circles?

    @jameslileks called out the best gag in the entire Bond series from OHMSS. Aside from the unfortunate decision to have half of his lines dubbed in a ridiculous posh accent, and a script that called for an emotional depth that only the post-Moore actors were equipped to handle, Lazenby was able to ape Connery’s bond seamlessly. This, I submit to you is all the proof one needs to place Connery at the bottom of the pack of Bonds.

    Out of curiosity, which Blofeld other than Savales is even worth mentioning?

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    Also, I’m always puzzled by people who, retrospectively, view James Bond through a Cold War lens, because he really never mixes it up with the Soviets. His arch nemesis is German, and the minor villains he encounters are a pan-global grab bag of crooked capitalists, arms/drug traffickers, or cartoonish megalomaniacs. There’s very little to do with politics in general in the films, let alone the Cold War. I grew up with the Brosnan pictures, though, so maybe I’m missing something.

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    You ain’t no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):
    Out of curiosity, which Blofeld other than Savales is even worth mentioning?

    The best Blofeld (a.k.a. “Number One”) is offscreen, felinophiliac Blofeld.

    Honorable Mention to Donald Pleasance (mainly for submitting to the make-up job, and for serving as the foil for the only line Connery showed up to deliver in character in “You Only Live Twice,” viz., “Impregnable?” — can’t find a clip).

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    So far that seems like the best segway. If anybody has heard of James doing something better, please post it.

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    You ain't no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):
    Out of curiosity, which Blofeld other than Savales is even worth mentioning?

    !! As Jeff noted, Donald Pleasance. He had the bloodless cerebral evil technocrat thing down cold.

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    I’m going to take issue with the idea that pre-WW2 everyone was so much more tolerant of other people’s political or religious ideas. That doesn’t seem accurate to me at any period in history.

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    • May 26, 2017 at 7:20 pm
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    Need to get that Ricochet After Dark feature so Peter can share these jokes.

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    • May 26, 2017 at 9:42 pm
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    Another great show but regarding Gianforte’s assault on that reporter in Montana, I could have done without Peter’s perfunctory concession to the civil niceties (“He should not have lost his temper; he should not have body slammed the guy”) before stating how annoying the reporter in question was. It came across as a tacit justification for criminal behavior.

    “It’s Montana. And he’s a big guy.”

    Did Peter actually say that? Yes he did.

    Dear God…

    Peter, your friend John Podhoretz characterized the episode as “psychotic,” and I’m inclined to agree with him. So I’ll put it to you directly: Do you think what Gianforte did to that reporter disqualifies him for national office, or do you think the usual acts of contrition (the fine, the public apology, and the court-mandated therapy) will suffice?

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    • May 26, 2017 at 10:12 pm
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    Also, anyone who disputes that the best Bond flick is still GOLDFINGER or that the only decent Craig outing is CASINO ROYALE (the other three being angsty, lame, faux-serious bore fests — yes, even SKYFALL) or that Moore’s finest, THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, belongs firmly in the top-five, simply isn’t paying attention. I’m afraid it’s just that simple.

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    Merrijane (View Comment):
    I’m going to take issue with the idea that pre-WW2 everyone was so much more tolerant of other people’s political or religious ideas. That doesn’t seem accurate to me at any period in history.

    I think the point is not that there was comity or people liked each other politically despite political differences. But that the partisan press implied the legitimacy of all parties.

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    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Also, anyone who disputes that the best Bond flick is still GOLDFINGER or that the only decent Craig outing is CASINO ROYALE (the other three being angsty, lame, faux-serious bore fests — yes, even SKYFALL) or that Moore’s finest, THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, belongs firmly in the top-five, simply isn’t paying attention. I’m afraid it’s just that simple.

    Oh, puh-lease! Goldfinger? Easily the least of the Connery pictures. All the silliness of one of Moore’s with none of the charm. Agreed on the Craig pictures, though Skyfall was pretty good on balance. Fair enough of TSWLM.

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    You ain't no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):

    Oh, puh-lease! Goldfinger? Easily the least of the Connery pictures. All the silliness of one of Moore’s with none of the charm. Agreed on the Craig pictures, though Skyfall was pretty good on balance. Fair enough of TSWLM.

    Are you kidding? Not only does GOLDFINGER boast a consistently witty script, it is also drum tight (most Bond movies overstay their welcome), perfectly structured, ingeniously plotted (quick, off the top of your head, summarize the plot of SKYFALL or SPECTRE), with one unbelievably inspired idea and set piece after another. Roll call: That dynamic pre-title sequence (“Shocking. Positively shocking”)… the girl painted gold… Bond’s voice in Goldfinger’s ear during the card game… Oddjob’s bowler hat… the Astin Martin… Bond strapped to the table (“No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!”)… Goldfinger briefing the gangsters on his plan… Bond’s incredible fight with Oddjob inside Fort Knox as an atomic bomb ticks down to zero (!)… the climactic fight on the private jet… etc etc.

    In other words, there is more sheer ingenuity on display in GOLDFINGER than in any five merely “good” adventure movies.

    So I’m surprised it’s even up for debate. Not only is GOLDFINFER the greatest Bond movie, it is a near-perfect adventure film and the pride of the EON fleet, meaning it’s a battle for second place, and my vote for the silver goes to FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, but a case can also be made for CASINO ROYALE.

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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    I read Mollie’s broadside a few days ago. It provides a good explanation of why I have little sympathy for Ben Jacobs. The media has burned its credibility. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad person, certainly doesn’t mean he deserves to get thrown to the ground. But, whether unfairly or not, it does mean that I actually don’t believe his account. Now, something did happen. But we don’t know what and I don’t trust a reporter not to try to bring down a Republican candidate on the literal eve of an election.

    Was Jacobs trying to provoke a reaction. This possibility needs to be discussed. It would be just another case of leftist journalists creating the news they’re supposed to be covering.

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    You ain't no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):
    Also, I’m always puzzled by people who, retrospectively, view James Bond through a Cold War lens, because he really never mixes it up with the Soviets. His arch nemesis is German, and the minor villains he encounters are a pan-global grab bag of crooked capitalists, arms/drug traffickers, or cartoonish megalomaniacs. There’s very little to do with politics in general in the films, let alone the Cold War. I grew up with the Brosnan pictures, though, so maybe I’m missing something.

    The first couple of films are dealing with the Cold War with Spectre as a PC stand in for the Soviets.

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    Well, you’ve got me there. I struggle to recall the plot of any Bond picture in any sort of detail; they’re all remarkably similar and forgettable. Also, we agree about most Bonds being overly long (gotta’ squeeze at least three continents into every one, though).

    Sean Connery and Goldfinger being the best the series has to offer is a dated sentiment, I think. I suspect it took hold after Lazenby failed to win any hearts and minds, and Moore’s first two tries turned out to be dogs, and has just been taken as gospel since then. Even as a kid, I had a hard time seeing Goldfinger’s plot as being a high-stakes game. So the gold supply at Ft. Knox is radioactive for 50 years. Big deal. We’ve managed to ride out worse economic catastrophes since then without any appreciable mayhem. Plus, there are already so many effete, doughy fluffballs in the Bond rogue’s gallery that Goldfinger doesn’t stand out as a formidable adversary for bond whatsoever. Even the signature set piece of the picture, the laser scene, Bond talks his way out of without any more difficulty than someone calling in to work after Superbowl Sunday. The silliness of Oddjob’s hat weapon and gold paint being used as a murder weapon make some of the absurdities in the worst Moore films look sane by comparison, but at least there were a few winks to go along with those.

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    The Craig movies are all too long and boring, with the possible exception of Casino Royale (which I saw in the theater and no longer remember).

    The best Bond movie was obviously Goldeneye because of Sean Bean.

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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    The best Bond movie was obviously Goldeneye because of Sean Bean.

    That and an appearance by my college mascot Wushock.

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    You ain’t no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):Sean Connery and Goldfinger being the best the series has to offer is a dated sentiment, I think.

    A dated sentiment. Exactly. Like calling Shakespeare the greatest playwright or the Beatles the finest rock band or “The Great Gatsby” the preeminent American novel. Dated sentiments all, since drama, pop music and American literature have all evolved by leaps and bounds in recent decades.

    Madness, of course. Some things are evergreen, like Hamlet… Gatsby… Abby Road…

    …And GOLDFINGER.

    But I get it. Seriously. If you demand angsty, self-aware naval gazing in your adventure films, GOLDFINGER may not be for you, and may I recommend instead the dour pretentiousness of the BOURNE series starring Matt Damon, or the “Let’s-treat-comics-like-an-O’Neil-play” faux solemnity of Christopher Nolan’s DARK KNIGHT films.

    Or Daniel Craig’s James Bond adventures.

    Tonally, the Bond series has always conformed to the zeitgeist — and rather slavishly, too, I might add. From a business perspective, this makes perfect sense, and Barbara Brocolli (like her late papa, Cubby) needs to give the public what it wants, and at a certain point in the last 20 years audiences began to demand copious amounts of joylessness in their escapism. And I’ll be damned if I know why.

    But I refuse to climb aboard that train. Treating Bond like Tolstoy is just silly to me. GOLDFINGER struck the perfect tone, with the perfect script, and the perfect actor.

    So I’ll walk from here if you don’t mind.

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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    I read Mollie’s broadside a few days ago. It provides a good explanation of why I have little sympathy for Ben Jacobs. The media has burned its credibility. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad person, certainly doesn’t mean he deserves to get thrown to the ground. But, whether unfairly or not, it does mean that I actually don’t believe his account. Now, something did happen. But we don’t know what and I don’t trust a reporter not to try to bring down a Republican candidate on the literal eve of an election.

    Jacobs account was corroborated by three witnesses from that bubbling cauldron of liberal swill, Fox News.

    Seriously, Gianforte is clearly an unhinged character and unfit to hold public office. And why is this even controversial? It wouldn’t be, if it weren’t for people’s tendency now to treat politics as War (“It’s us versus them, dammit!!”).

    Very sad.

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    Titus Techera (View Comment):

    Merrijane (View Comment):
    I’m going to take issue with the idea that pre-WW2 everyone was so much more tolerant of other people’s political or religious ideas. That doesn’t seem accurate to me at any period in history.

    I think the point is not that there was comity or people liked each other politically despite political differences. But that the partisan press implied the legitimacy of all parties.

    That didn’t seem like the point, whether or not one can argue that legitimacy of all parties was accepted (I don’t believe it). I may have misunderstood, but Mollie seemed to say that a partisan press doesn’t work as well today because people in general are much less tolerant of differing philosophies. I think it’s more likely that people just seem less tolerant because (a) we’re constantly inundated with everyone’s opinions via social media and (b) we have more leisure time to spend on debating and stewing over it.

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    I know that Rob will probably reject this but if the Democrats are gaining ground it is in part because people who should have beating the Democrats as a high priority just continue to trash President Trump (he is not generic). How about getting behind him instead of constant criticism? The Democrats, false stream media, deep state, academics and late night TV show hosts declared war on our President since the election. They don’t need any help from folks who are center right. I urge you to support Our President.

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    The Forgotten Man (View Comment):
    I know that Rob will probably reject this but if the Democrats are gaining ground it is in part because people who should have beating the Democrats as a high priority just continue to trash President Trump (he is not generic). How about getting behind him instead of constant criticism? The Democrats, False stream media, deep state, academics and late night TV show hosts declared war on our President since the election. They don’t need your help. I urge you to support Our president.

    I’m not sure you understand the heavy psychic toll it takes on some of us to support a guy who is as unfit for office, and as morally bankrupt, as Donald Trump. You may THINK you understand it, but believe me, you don’t, because if you did, you wouldn’t be posing the question. So just take this as an article of faith: Some of us (a vanishingly small percentage of Conservatives) would rather stand by and watch in horror as the Democrats seize power than link arms in solidarity with a repugnant creep like the sitting President.

    Mind you, a candidate doesn’t have to be perfect (Romney, for example, was far from perfect, but he was still worth supporting), but he cannot be a repugnant creep. That’s the threshold: You cannot be a repugnant creep. And it doesn’t matter how toxic Leftism is (and let’s face it, it is frankly destroying the culture), we cannot throw in with a repugnant creep.

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    filmklassik (View Comment):
    But I get it. Seriously. If you demand angsty, self-aware naval gazing in your adventure films, GOLDFINGER may not be for you, and may I recommend instead the dour pretentiousness of the BOURNE series starring Matt Damon, or the “Let’s-treat-comics-like-an-O’Neil-play” faux solemnity of Christopher Nolan’s DARK KNIGHT films.

    I would prefer Cary Grant in Charade to any Bond film, and The Rocketeer or The Phantom to any comic book flick that’s been made in the last decade or so, easily. So, no, you are fake news. I do, however, agree with everything you else you said with the exception that Goldfinger is anywhere near as good as the other campy Bonds, like You Only Live Twice.

    The Forgotten Man (View Comment):
    I know that Rob will probably reject this but if the Democrats are gaining ground it is in part because people who should have beating the Democrats as a high priority just continue to trash President Trump (he is not generic).

    How? I thought all the Nevers were out of touch with the pulse of American political opinion. They all got it wrong about Trump during the election, right? Aren’t all the Republican voters perceptive enough to see through all the thinly-veiled right-wing obstructionism as you are?

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