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About Those ‘Protesters’ At the ICE Detention Center in New Jersey . . .

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How are the guards supposed to be sure the "protesters" aren’t preparing a "jailbreak"?

I have not seen this asked in any news reports or commentary, but the question sticks in my mind.

The “protests” at the Delaney Hall ICE Detention Center in New Jersey seem to be expanding and getting more violent after the Newark mayor was arrested when he rushed into the facility.

Much of the media and other supporters of the mobs assembling at the gates of the Delaney Detention Center assert that the mobs are mere “protesters” or that they are just trying to “inspect” the facility. But how can the guards be sure of that? How do the facility guards know that, once inside the facility, the “protesters” or “inspectors” won’t try to release the detainees, or to slip contraband or weapons to the detainees?

An argument I hear from people who oppose private ownership of guns is that homeowners should never shoot burglars because a burglar’s life is more valuable than a homeowner’s material “stuff.” A common response to that argument is to point out that, as the burglary is beginning, the homeowner has no way to know what the invading person intends. Does the intruder intend “merely” to take “stuff”? Or does the intruder intend to kidnap or rape or murder? What if the intruder who plans to “merely” take stuff changes his mind during the action?

On what basis are the guards at the Delaney Hall supposed to be sure that the mayor, the clergy, and the mob at the facility’s gate are “merely” protesting, and not intent on entering the facility to release the detainees? Especially since the guards at the center now have experience with the mob rushing into the facility when the guards opened the gate for an authorized vehicle?

The potential for a “jailbreak” seems to be a realistic possibility. Therefore, basic facility security would seem to call for the guards to use full force against a mob that is assembling at the gates.

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  • Susan Quinn@SusanQuinn
    I think you're asking a legitimate question. They should have decided to protest and stood back from the entrance, or formally requested a tour of the facilities. By seemingly doing both, they could easily have slipped stuff to the inmates or tried to get them out. It just shows you that showboating doesn't always work!
  • QuietPI@Quietpi

    Eventually some people are going to die. The Left wants it to happen. They will characterize it as Trump's Boston Massacre. The MSM may already have the stories roughed out. Guard towers don't pack rubber bullets.

    The actual, trained instigators will fade to the back of the crowd at the right moment. They won't go in, won't be in the line of fire, and will slip away unharmed, and possibly undetected - until the videos are analyzed.

    The problem is that the Left has taken this so far that I doubt there is any way to stop it now.

  • Barfly@Barfly
    Full Size Tabby (View Post):
    The potential for a “jailbreak” seems to be a realistic possibility. Therefore, basic facility security would seem to call for the guards to use full force against a mob that assembling at the gate to the facility.

    Of course it's a real possibility. The window of acceptability now is very close to including "direct action." Deluded people of the left, marinated in their nurseries and colleges, and entitled to public support, would probably place a mob jailbreak squarely within the window. Those BLM and Antifa riots didn't start themselves, you know.

  • Barfly@Barfly

    I know, I know! We'll work up a Jay-6 on 'em!

    Jay-6? I'm not familiar with that one.

    That's where we pack the crowd with our own boys, then we just open the doors and invite 'em in. We'll be takin' photos and video, an' we'll edit all that. Then we charge every livin' one of 'em with bogus laws, an' we prove it all with our fake evidence.

    Hmm. Too Democrat.

  • Doug Watt@DougWatt

    One of the primary rules in any detention facility is to maintain order. That includes not just inmates it includes visitors, vendors, and anyone else for whatever reason that want to enter the facility. You cannot block the gates, breach the gates, or loiter outside the gates.

    A member of Congress, or a puffed-up Mayor can make arrangements for a visit and a tour. If they feel that they don't have to do that then I suggest that they train by trying to breach a tribal police office on a reservation. It's called pain compliance for a reason when things become chaotic.

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