In “Our Democracy” Does the Will of the People Even Matter?

 

The incoming chair of the school board for Fairfax County VA (69.9% Biden in 2020) was sworn in on a small stack of LGBTQ books for children.  Even for a very liberal jurisdiction, that struck me as over the top.  Do upscale suburban parents really want this kind of propaganda infecting the education system?

Then it occurred to me that being a Democratic voter is not about endorsing a wide array of ideological garbage.  Instead, it is about forfeiting the right to disagree much less oppose and vote against bad policies or overt ideological garbage.

Consider:

  • The African-American demographic, vital to the Democratic party, overwhelmingly supports charter schools but the party defers to public employee interests.
  • African Americans also bear the brunt of mass illegal immigration but have no say in immigration policy despite being the key block in the ruling party.
  • Unions, another bulwark of the party also used to oppose illegal immigration because of its overall downward ratchet effect on wages but their leaders obey the party on the issue.
  • Unions also lost a key selling point for membership when Obama sought to make health care a right and even initially imposed a tax on the “Cadillac” plans hard-won in collective bargaining.
  • The entire working class has been hammered by bad energy policies that only serve the sensibilities of very wealthy greenies and subsidy grifters.
  • Elite colleges discriminate against non-wealthy white males while the offspring of black doctors and lawyers are admitted preferentially as victims.
  • The absurd costs of college education are driven by federal policy and crush young people, another key demographic for the party.
  • The almost universal beatdown of parents who oppose perversions becoming mandatory curriculum elements is a broad slap at the majority of Americans who hold normal traditional values, including a plurality (or even a majority) of Democrats.
  • Inflation, the gross mishandling of COVID-19, the failure to address crime, pro-Hamas violence, hideous architecture, fake art, lousy movies & TV, the senility of Joe Biden, the sleazoid nature of the Biden family, the silly overt bias of the MSM….

Meanwhile, our colleges are killing inquiry, research, and the life of the mind to become trade schools combined with indoctrination centers, a direction more like an extension of East German daycare centers than a service to Western democracy.  (Although, learning what can’t be said to prepare for jobs conditioned on detailed compliance and silence may be appropriate in a society where we are all becoming “Democrats.”)

Conversely, being a Republican means (a sometimes punished) willingness to criticize bad ideas and policies combined with a growing expectation that such criticisms will have no effect.

Elections and opinion polls don’t seem to matter anymore.  We seem to be benumbed to so much.  Those exercising actual control often do not appear to be even minimally competent much less very smart.  So how is this happening?

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  1. Ekosj Member
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    These are all legitimate points that ought to be the focal point of public discourse in this election year.    But all we have gotten so far and all we are likely to get is “Orange Man Bad”    Dems elites LOVE Trump.   Having him as a foil means they never have to talk about this other stuff.

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  2. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a Scam)
    @DonG

    The Democratic party is a mix of neo-Marxism and neo-Maoism.  Compliance with the narrative/loyalty must be demonstrated regularly to stay in good standing with the herd.   The only principle is power.

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  3. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    @GossamerCat

    Old Bathos: being a Democratic voter is not about endorsing a wide array of ideological garbage.  Instead, it is about forfeiting the right to disagree much less oppose and vote against bad policies or overt ideological garbage.

    This was the sea change that took me and I suspect many others a while to comprehend.  They are now a religion.  Many people look at the Republicans and see their disorder and disagreements and say that the party is dysfunctional.  No, they are functional if therefore ineffective-they do not think or act in lockstep.  They are humans subject to human foibles and sins.  You likely could replace every Congressman or Senator in the Democrative party with a cardboard cut out labeled “D”.  The party line comes from their high priests.  Democrats are even getting rid of the sham of deviating from the party line by dropping other candidates from the primary.  

    How did we get here?  Slowly then all at once as the saying goes.  One reason, I think, is that the demonization of the Republican party and conservatives in general has been so effective that they will not deviate from voting the party line lest we descend into a barbaric past where white supremacy rules, gay people are killed,  minorities are enslaved, unions are outlawed, and women are forced to bear children over and over again until they die.  Oh, and all the old people will die too because of cuts in Medicare. We are the party of hate, not love; of  No, not Yes.  Despite the fact that conservatives and their children are happier and healthier than their counterparts.  But that message will never get out because not reading the NY Times and listening to NPR are apostasy.   

    So they will not vote their self interest anymore.  When NY re-elected de Blasio, when LA put in Black, when Chicago went even more left than Lightfoot, you know that these places can no longer save themselves.  California and NY will never elect Republicans when things get too bad like they did in the past. 

    And that is a big change.  I just wish I knew what to do about it.  

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  4. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    Indeed, “None of this makes any sense.”  There is absolutely no ideological consistency here, other than being destructive.

    Here is an explanation that is completely consistent:

    1. The Democrat Party is an authoritarian top-down operation; a small group within the party decides what will happen, the party insiders and politicians are rewarded for following orders, and a propaganda engine directs the citizens, who tend to follow.  This requires a lot of funding.
    2. In lieu of a hot war, or a cold war, the Chinese Communist Party pays the Democrat Party to take positions that are destructive to the US.

    Completely consistent.

    For more, see my posts Asymmetrical Warfare (for Fun and Profit), and This Would Explain a Lot of Things.

     

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  5. Lilly B Coolidge
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    @LillyB

    In terms of swearing in the school board chair on a stack of LGBT children’s books, I wouldn’t dismiss the idea that Democrat-voting parents in that county don’t think the books are that big of a deal. Based on sentiments I see on social media from those kinds of voters, they are likely to relish the opportunity to annoy or outrage conservatives. They fully believe the book banning narrative. They may not really have the social permission to disagree, but they also probably don’t notice because they agree. If that’s the reason that they agree so readily with nonsensical ideas that they never even considered 6 months ago, five years ago or at any time previously in adulthood, I think the lack of introspection affords the greatest comfort. 

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  6. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Regarding blacks and charter schools,  the vast majority of white Dem voters are taught continually that it is affluent whites in the tony suburbs demanding school vouchers. I would probably have believed that myself except for a while I owned a home in the Silicon Valley region in an African American community.

    This was back in the early 1980’s. My neighbors all sent their kids to private schools. It was not even so much a matter of wanting a good education – it was because they didn’t want their kids to get beaten up for their lunch monies!

    These were all working class households. Paying tuition took a huge chunk of change out of their budgets. But they were happy to know their children were inside safe school campuses. And the fact that the education offered was much better for their kids was the icing on the cake.

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  7. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Lilly B (View Comment):

    In terms of swearing in the school board chair on a stack of LGBT children’s books, I wouldn’t dismiss the idea that Democrat-voting parents in that county don’t think the books are that big of a deal. Based on sentiments I see on social media from those kinds of voters, they are likely to relish the opportunity to annoy or outrage conservatives. They fully believe the book banning narrative. They may not really have the social permission to disagree, but they also probably don’t notice because they agree. If that’s the reason that they agree so readily with nonsensical ideas that they never even considered 6 months ago, five years ago or at any time previously in adulthood, I think the lack of introspection affords the greatest comfort.

    Plus the Dems will never ever have the need to delve into the necessary introspection. At least not until they themselves are harmed by one of their policies. (See any of the many stories of “Baltimore city council member, or San Francisco city council member is knifed in car jacking incident” to realize how sometimes karma takes a bite out of some liberal’s idiocy in thinking people of color can break laws regarding felonies without punishment.)

    So much has changed over the last few decades.

    Usually in our society, the fact that both parties treasured debate meant that there existed a huge opportunity for both sides of the aisle to educate one another. Now if anyone suggests a peek into the issues from a conservative point of view, that individual is immediately shut down with a muffled protest of “You are upsetting me.”

    That is what happens if it is a one on one, face to face situation.

    If the situation is public, as when a person dares to take the podium at any sort of local board meeting , be it Board of Supervisors’ meeting or a school meeting, the individual could find themselves harassed endlessly by sudden tormenting eruptions of the local HOA deciding their curtains are the wrong color all the way up to the ticketing of their car, and in some cases the outspoken individual will be followed by local suburban version of Antifa, who follow the person around if they walk the dog, driving their car dangerously close to the person and pet so that the outspoken person can be videoed. (Police will tell the outspoken one that under current laws, anyone can film anyone if they so desire.)

    So free speech is not a possibility any more, unless you are talking only to those you know who share your same outlook on life and principles!

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  8. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    @GossamerCat

    Was thinking about this some more today. I think another factor is the “socialism works, they just haven’t done it right yet” fallacy.  So they keep voting for the same things over and over again, not because their policies failed but because the one Republican left in the legislature caused them to fail.  So they need to double down and gosh darn it, they’ll get it right this time. 

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  9. Roderic Coolidge
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    @rhfabian

    Old Bathos: Then it occurred to me that being a Democratic voter is not about endorsing a wide array of ideological garbage.  Instead, it is about forfeiting the right to disagree much less oppose and vote against bad policies or overt ideological garbage.

    Many people find freedom unbearable and want to be led by the hand.  They want to be free of that which goes with freedom: responsibility.

    It’s what the victim mentality is all about, that is, freedom from any responsibility for one’s own life and the choices one makes.  As long as a person toes the ideological line there is no personal responsibility.

    It takes experience with bearing responsibility to be comfortable with it.  That’s what’s being denied many young people.  From the time they enter the victim culture it’s all downhill, and they will never taste freedom.

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  10. Old Bathos Member
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    @OldBathos

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Was thinking about this some more today. I think another factor is the “socialism works, they just haven’t done it right yet” fallacy. So they keep voting for the same things over and over again, not because their policies failed but because the one Republican left in the legislature caused them to fail. So they need to double down and gosh darn it, they’ll get it right this time.

    Socialism (and its variants) is kinda like an addiction.  The brain knows that the high is artificial, that the high and its aftereffects cause harm but the pleasure, the need trumps reality feedback. 

    East Germans broadly approved elimination of wealth from the rich and the trappings of equality. They then came to accept fewer choices, more certainty about roles and opportunity even if limited. 

    American lefties think they would accept a lowered standard of living and lessened freedom in exchange for the pleasure of seeing the rich, the MAGAs, and the traditionally religious crushed completely. Since those enemies are the cause of all bad things, nirvana or its approximation will ensue. At root, they seem potentially far less practical and more dangerous than East Germans.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    American lefties think they would accept a lowered standard of living and lessened freedom in exchange for the pleasure of seeing the rich, the MAGAs, and the traditionally religious crushed completely. Since those enemies are the cause of all bad things, nirvana or its approximation will ensue. At root, they seem potentially far less practical and more dangerous than East Germans.

    I’m not convinced that the lefties – most of them, anyway – believe that their standard of living would be lower too.  Only the elites would have to come down from their lofty perches.  Which is ridiculous of course, but people believe ridiculous things all the time.

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  12. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    These are all legitimate points that ought to be the focal point of public discourse in this election year. But all we have gotten so far and all we are likely to get is “Orange Man Bad” Dems elites LOVE Trump. Having him as a foil means they never have to talk about this other stuff.

    That is one my biggest beefs with Trump. All Republicans need to do is point to Biden and say, “None of his policies work. Not for anybody without political connections. Gays, blacks and poor people did way better under Trump and terrorists were scared while we avoided another war. So we should do Trump’s policies.” 

    I want to argue the policy stuff but with Trump you always argue about Trump. I want the Trump policies but Trump isn’t of particular interest to me.

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  13. Old Bathos Member
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Old Bathos: Then it occurred to me that being a Democratic voter is not about endorsing a wide array of ideological garbage. Instead, it is about forfeiting the right to disagree much less oppose and vote against bad policies or overt ideological garbage.

    Many people find freedom unbearable and want to be led by the hand. They want to be free of that which goes with freedom: responsibility.

    It’s what the victim mentality is all about, that is, freedom from any responsibility for one’s own life and the choices one makes. As long as a person toes the ideological line there is no personal responsibility.

    It takes experience with bearing responsibility to be comfortable with it. That’s what’s being denied many young people. From the time they enter the victim culture it’s all downhill, and they will never taste freedom.

    My grandfather grew up moving across the western US–his father was a contractor who built rail lines. He lived in lots of boom-and-bust towns that sprang up. He told me that failure and bankruptcy was common and that people just expected that they might have to start over at any time.  He also said that the people he knew were baffled by news reports of numerous suicides after the great stock market crash. He became a successful businessman.

    So many of our “best and brightest” are taught to want and expect guarantees but are burdened with debt and an ideology that celebrates killing growth and limiting choices.  It is as if we are deliberately creating the next generation for East Germany.

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  14. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Old Bathos: Then it occurred to me that being a Democratic voter is not about endorsing a wide array of ideological garbage. Instead, it is about forfeiting the right to disagree much less oppose and vote against bad policies or overt ideological garbage.

    Many people find freedom unbearable and want to be led by the hand. They want to be free of that which goes with freedom: responsibility.

    It’s what the victim mentality is all about, that is, freedom from any responsibility for one’s own life and the choices one makes. As long as a person toes the ideological line there is no personal responsibility.

    It takes experience with bearing responsibility to be comfortable with it. That’s what’s being denied many young people. From the time they enter the victim culture it’s all downhill, and they will never taste freedom.

    My grandfather grew up moving across the western US–his father was a contractor who built rail lines. He lived in lots of boom-and-bust towns that sprang up. He told me that failure and bankruptcy was common and that people just expected that they might have to start over at any time. He also said that the people he knew were baffled by news reports of numerous suicides after the great stock market crash. He became a successful businessman.

    So many of our “best and brightest” are taught to want and expect guarantees but are burdened with debt and an ideology that celebrates killing growth and limiting choices. It is as if we are deliberately creating the next generation for East Germany.

    Superman believes in second chances. However, growing up on a farm he is a bit sensitive to the boom and bust patterns that farmers have to deal with. 

     

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  15. Bill Berg Coolidge
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    @Bill Berg

    We are no longer citizens but rather consumers, and along with a lot of “stuff” a major part of what we consume is the Administrative State, Democrat, media, university, corporate mostly unified “Narrative”.

    The fact that all those elements are working together means we are in an Oligarchy.

    Even skeptics have a hard time really thinking outside the Narrative, mostly we just realize something is wrong, but since we are information overloaded and maximally distracted, our ability to recognize our plight is limited, and even to the extent we do, the chances of there being any coherent “will of the people (consumers), approximates zero.

    Our culture is “progressive”, which I think Obama stated well as “Hope and Change”. When everything is changing, consistency is not an issue. The subtle point here is that for the vast number of people, they neither have the memory nor the inclination to have any awareness of consistency nor inconsistency.

    The goal for which we are “progressing” is completely undefined.

    In this MLK weekend, we need to realize that Claudine Gay was hired for the color of her skin and fired for the content of her character. The inverse of the MLK dream.

    But very few can realize that because of the reasons in the base post and subsequent comments.

    So why did liberalism/progressivism fail?

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Bill Berg (View Comment):

    We are no longer citizens but rather consumers, and along with a lot of “stuff” a major part of what we consume is the Administrative State, Democrat, media, university, corporate mostly unified “Narrative”.

    We’re also products, being “marketed” to the multinationals etc.

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  17. Jo Ann Rogers Member
    Jo Ann Rogers
    @JoAnnRogers

    I think we GREATLY underestimate the self-interest in the status quo. An enormous number of people have jobs that directly or indirectly are in the service of the State. Teachers, prisons, municipal services,TSA, welfare, social security, government offices, judiciary, policing, research, regulatory agencies, universities military; the list is nearly endless. Their livelihoods literally depend on a progressive agenda. 

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  18. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    The OP asks, ‘Does the Will of the People Even Matter?’ 

    I think it does, which is why the left tries so hard to paint these things as popular. 

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  19. Steve C. Member
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    @user_531302

    Interests are organized. The People are not.

    A long time ago and far far away, political parties aggregated the wishes of large numbers of people. Parties, in theory and mostly in practice, massaged those wishes and created a platform with an eye to satisfying a majority of voters.

    Parties don’t do that anymore. The misguided attempt to purify politics, to drive out the money changers, ran smack dab into a little thing I like to call the First Amendment. Not to be denied, never underestimate the determination of reformers and the canniness of lawyers, we now have the best of both worlds.

    A First Amendment jurisprudence where drag queens are free to read Dr. Seuss to toddlers and our political parties are reduced to team jerseys.

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  20. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    These are all legitimate points that ought to be the focal point of public discourse in this election year. But all we have gotten so far and all we are likely to get is “Orange Man Bad” Dems elites LOVE Trump. Having him as a foil means they never have to talk about this other stuff.

    Did they talk about the other stuff prior to Trump? W was Hitler….

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  21. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    These are all legitimate points that ought to be the focal point of public discourse in this election year. But all we have gotten so far and all we are likely to get is “Orange Man Bad” Dems elites LOVE Trump. Having him as a foil means they never have to talk about this other stuff.

    Did they talk about the other stuff prior to Trump? W was Hitler….

    All Republican presidents are Hitler, but each successive one is Hitlerer than the last one and this will certainly apply to the future ones. 

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  22. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    TBA (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    These are all legitimate points that ought to be the focal point of public discourse in this election year. But all we have gotten so far and all we are likely to get is “Orange Man Bad” Dems elites LOVE Trump. Having him as a foil means they never have to talk about this other stuff.

    Did they talk about the other stuff prior to Trump? W was Hitler….

    All Republican presidents are Hitler, but each successive one is Hitlerer than the last one and this will certainly apply to the future ones.

    It’s Hitle, Hitler, Hitlest.

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