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This may sound odd coming from me, but I think there's another way to look at the question. First, Arabs/Palestinians have no qualms about punishing those who disagree with them. A simple example is that if an Arab in recent years sold land to a non-Arab, he would pay a price (beatings, ostracism). Second, in all those non-Hamas countries, I know there were pro-Israel protests, but I would have been surprised to see "anti-Hamas" protests. I think it would have been dangerous To make that kind of statement would have required more courage than I think most of the Palestinians have. So I think they'd have little motivation to protest against Hamas with the potential retribution, even if they don't like what Hamas is doing.
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Great post. I did a related post:
https://ricochet.com/1502689/all-we-have-to-do-is-take-these-lies-aand-make-them-true/
In the wake of WW2 we created the “good Germans” narrative. It was based on similar logic. The “good Germans“ … and there were many… couldn’t speak up for fear of the Nazis. Or didn’t know the horrors being done in their name.
There is an excellent book - Hitler’s Willing Executioners - that documents how this was not the case. Goodbye to Berlin - The book that spawned the play Cabaret - written in 1939 talks about how German parents scolded their children about being good or they’d “go up the chimney.” It was common knowledge and supported.
I’d argue it’s the same among Palestinians.
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There have been noticeable (i.e. not microscopic) pro-Israel protests by Palestinians outside Hamas-controlled territory? If true that would be interesting know more about.
In a way I think your comment implicitly agrees with the premise of my post. If there were substantial numbers of non-genocidal Palestinians, they would not need to fear reprisals for speaking against genocide. The fact that, even in the West, they fear reprisal likely means that their numbers are vanishingly small by comparison to the genocidal monsters.
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I see your point. If they're not sufficiently outraged to speak out, in spite of potential consequences, they are small in numbers or barely exist.
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For me it's "if there really is a distinction between Hamas and 'ordinary' Palestinians, somebody with power would be trying to do something about it." I understand Susan's point about people of Palestinian origin who live in other places being afraid of retaliation. But somewhere in the Arab world there must be some ruler or government or moneyed interest that would see value to evicting Hamas if for no other reason than to reduce the likelihood that large numbers of Gaza residents will be killed.
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