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I was born and grew up in India, went to the US for college and grad school, lived there for 10 happy years, then moved to Australia and have lived here since.


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Well I'm finding the series interesting - a lot of facts gathered, no overtly prejudiced depiction of anybody (which is a Good Thing, whatever your opinion).  I agree with Amaral re the mood music, but there you go.

@ GC Mandrake - I can't remember all the historians' names.  There's Hillel Cohen, but also a few others.

Zafar

Snirtler: continued from#137

Yet within the Church there has ever been a corrective impulse, so that her deeds may be more in accord with her teaching. I don't know enough about its various schools to say if the same thing is true of Islam. Perhaps others can weigh in on this.

Islam had a bit of a set back several hundred years ago when a school that banned interpretation of the Qur'an gained dominance.  It was as much a political struggle as anything, but the outcomes have been fairly dire.  So the short answer is: there are tendencies to reason (including moral reason), but they have not been dominant beyond a very brief moment hundreds of years ago, and have been increasingly marginalised in the present day.

Zafar

Very perceptive!

Go further and say "place the Qur'an in history".

Red Feline

 

I can't see a way for Muslims to deny the Qur'an, and the claim by Muhammad that it is the direct word of Allah, if they believe it fundamentally.

If they could accept that Muhammad was a warrior, who united the Arabs, and place him in history, it might help. · 7 hours ago

Zafar

What I'm sure everybody is wondering is whether Joan will have Hainan Chicken Rice every day or only almost every day.

Zafar

Nobody's likely to say it was you.  Perhaps that's the difference.

Franco: I don't understand this post. People who have nothing to do with the attacks except for having the *same* religion, giving condolences and 'condemnations'. So what? In effect they are saying ,"It's not us." It's not me, either.  · 1 hour ago

I'm glad you posted this Judith.  

Zafar

Well it's certainly one of the bigger ones.

St. Salieri: Thank you, fantastic article! · 1 hour ago

doc molloy: The Nakba ObsessionThe Palestinian national narrative is the biggest obstacle to peace in the Middle East. · 16 hours ago
Zafar

I might show up one day and surprise you Israel!

Israel P.: So, Zafar, when are you coming to see the results of this catastrophe with your own eyes? · 2 hours ago

Though to be fair some of the results would be found in Lebanon.  True?

Zafar

Oh come, Tom. You wouldn't write off the Catholic Church based on the behaviour of some paedophile priests, would you?  Extrapolate.

Zafar

[I am not sure of the validation of having opinions on history, when with history we must deal in facts.]

Very true - and when disagreements stems from a different understanding of the facts, surely it's a good thing to set out what one believes the facts to be - to be refuted or agreed with, as the case may be, and then discussed for relevance.

Zafar

[I doff my cap to you sir for doing the unspeakable - engaging primary sources!]

Seconded.

Zafar

[What UK needs is an armed citizenry.]

Except imagine how many more people those two could have killed with easy access to guns.

Zafar

And it's back again!

Midget Faded Rattlesnake: I know there are peaceful sects of Islam out there (here's one -- unfortunately, many of these sects are being swallowed up by Wahhabism as we speak). It isn't impossible to reform Islam into a peaceful religion. It's just that it can't be done by the expedient of "returning to peaceful roots". · 1 minute ago

Your point re Wahhabism is true, though the Ahmadiyyas are being killed rather than subverted.

(On a segue, the link showed a mosque with a minaret claiming to be in Zurich.  Didn't the Swiss pass a no minarets referendum or some  such?)

Zafar

Curses! I've lost my quote button again!

Midge

"But one faith has that option open and the other does not. Isn't that an intrinsic difference?"

Sure, but how consistently significant is the option to outcomes?

There are very few places where one can actually contrast and compare the two with 'all else being equal'. The only place that comes to mind is the Balkans, and the outcomes there were quite horrrific.  Ditto the Lebanese civil war.

Zafar
Richard Fulmer So the fact that a bunch of Christians murdered a bunch of people 500 years ago means that it's now okay for Muslims to kill a bunch of people today?  If not, then your point is, at best, irrelevant or, at worst, an intended distraction.  If you do believe that current Muslim atrocities are justified by ancient Christian atrocities, then please explain the mechanics of this justification.  Also, please explain how, given such a justification, we avoid an endless cycle of revenge short of one side eradicating the other.

Of course it's not okay, and it certainly isn't a justification.  The question was whether one religion was equal to the other.  My point was that over the years their outputs on earth have been similarly good and bad - so judging by outputs over their 'lifetimes', they are pretty similar.

Zafar

That poor soldier, brutally killed in his own country.

Boris Johnson is running a city that is 13% Muslim - he cannot responsibly respond to this without parsing his words carefully.

Zafar

Midge, that's more a difference between the options open to Christians and Muslims who want to reform their faiths.  But okay.

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