Tag: Secession

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Abbott Acts on Border Crisis, Stunning COVID Cover Up, Oregon Counties Want to Secede

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Join Jim and Greg as they credit Texas Gov. Greg Abbott for taking action on the border crisis while the Biden administration dithers. They also react to the explosive Vanity Fair story exposing how State Department officials and scientists furiously tried to stop investigations into whether COVID-19 leaked from a Wuhan lab. And they sympathize with residents in eastern Oregon who want to secede to Idaho. While they think the likelihood of that happening is low, they also devise an incentive system for state governments to improve.

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Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright
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The fifty United States of America are not “united” on the basis of unconditional fealty to even a wholly legitimate federal government, to say nothing of a one third illegitimate one. The Constitution and its Amendments were written and ratified to protect the states and, ultimately, we, the citizens, from governmental violation of our inalienable […]
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Chuck
Chuck
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In the midst of an outstanding conversation initiated by the good Dr. Bastiat, someone who may not want his name used  mentioned in a comment the far Left magazine, “Jacobin”.  When I looked at it, found this quote under the heading Secession Planning: “A looser union with more room for state and regional autonomy, as […]
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Ammo.com
Ammo.com
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The failed state is to post-modernity what the nation-state was to modernity. It’s a recent development that is a hallmark of our age – like a state, but incapable of exercising sovereignty over all of its nominal territory. And while it might sound a little far-fetched, the failed state isn’t just coming to the West. […]
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America’s Sovereign States: The Obscure History of How 10 Independent States Joined the U.S.

Ammo.com
Ammo.com
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It is often said that before the Civil War, the United States “are,” but after the War, the United States “is.” This is a reference to the formerly theoretically sovereign nature of each state as compared to “one nation, indivisible.”

More than just the theoretic sovereignty of the individual states, the territory now comprising the U.S. has a rich history of sovereign states outside the control of the federal government. Some of these you’ve almost certainly heard of, but a lot of them are quite obscure. Each points toward a potential American secession of the future.

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CJ
CJ
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Ace of Spades links to a recent article at the Federalist by David Marcus, in which he notes of conservatives who have offered little resistance to the toppling of certain statues: [A]fter you write your little op-ed about how of course the evil Confederate statues have to come down, they still think you’re a racist. […]
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CJ
CJ
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The nation-state isn’t forever (sorry, Fukuyama). Liberal democracy, with its mountains of debt and its failing program of compelled cohesion, will become increasingly unstable. At some point there will be a breakup, although when or how it will come about is anyone’s guess. If Las Vegas bookies have odds on this sort of thing, they […]
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ShellGamer
ShellGamer
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It seems to be my lot to point out flaws in Professor Epstein’s reasoning. In the 100th podcast of Law Talk, he repeated his contention that the Roman law of partnership should be viewed as the model for the relationship of the States to the Federal government. Under Roman law, and English and U.S. common […]
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UK Terror Continues, SCOTUS To Draw the Lines, The Left is America’s ISIS?

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Hosted by Jim Geraghty & Rich McFadden

Jim Geraghty of National Review and Rich McFadden of Radio America react to news of yet another terror attack in the UK which targeted British Muslims outside of a London mosque after their evening prayers for Ramadan. They also discuss the Supreme Court’s announcement that they will take up the partisan gerrymandering case in the state of Wisconsin to determine whether or not the act is unconstitutional. And they respond to Erick Erickson’s sensationalist comments as he refers to the left as “America’s ISIS” and advocates for state secession.

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Calexit: If You Succeed to Secede

The Elephant in the Room
The Elephant in the Room
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Yesterday, a group submitted its proposal to California’s Secretary of State for a ballot proposal for California to secede from the United States and become its own independent nation. “Calexit,” they’re calling it. On the website for the proposed referendum, it states:

“In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children.”

So it’s time to secede! Become their own nation! The time is right for the People’s Republic of California! They must follow in the footsteps of Eritrea, East Timor, and South Sudan and really show Trumpistan what’s what! Here’s a look at some of the arguments the proponents put forth in favor of California’s independence:

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Trump’s Day One Plans, Trump Won’t Charge Hillary, California Secession

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Jim Geraghty of National Review and Greg Corombos of Radio America are generally encouraged by Donald Trump’s plan for the first 100 days on energy, immigration, national security and more.  They also scratch their heads as Trump announces he will not pursue charges against Hillary Clinton, a power the president doesn’t actually have.  And they get a kick out of the push for California secession but glumly admit it probably won’t actually happen.

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Manny
Manny
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Pat Buchanan has a fine piece over at The American Conservative on civil disobedience, and how it’s now likely to come from the conservative side of the political perspective. Here’s his intro paragraphs:  The Oklahoma Supreme Court, in a 7-2 decision, has ordered a monument of the Ten Commandments removed from the Capitol. Calling the […]
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Titus Techera
Titus Techera
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I have noticed that the 4th has come & gone without precious rhetoric & pretentious promises that so much is to be gained from going back to the past. Maybe the past is unknown–maybe it is too well-known–but there is not a lot of it present. Here I see an opportunity to pester you with […]
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Rand Simberg
Rand Simberg
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Jefferson, up on the Oregon border, is the first new state within the boundaries of the current state of California that I’ll describe in this series. It would be the most rural and smallest of the new states, with fewer than a million people currently residing in the counties that would comprise it. The population […]
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Whither Six Flags Over California?

Rand Simberg
Rand Simberg
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Venture capitalist Tim Draper’s dream of six Californias, viewed as quixotic to many, seems to have come to an end with a judge’s ruling a few weeks ago that he didn’t buy enough signatures with his five-million-dollar investment. But has it?

As Walter Russell Mead notes, that it didn’t get enough legal signatures doesn’t mean that it’s not a good idea. California may not be too big to fail, but it is apparently too big to work.

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