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In the first part of this podcast, Mona and Jay host Mitch Daniels, the old Reagan hand who was governor of Indiana and is now president of Purdue University. They talk about higher ed, the general direction of the country, etc. Mona is almost to the point of forgiving him for not running for president two years ago.
In the second part of the podcast, Mona and Jay talk about an array of issues. For instance, America’s standing in the world — does President Obama want it this way? How about the people who elected him, twice? They talk about awfulness at Stanford, and awfulness at Rutgers. They note that Paul Ryan, of all people, is being called a racist. Must mean he’s sticking his neck out and trying to do some good.





