On September 29, 2014, Kevin Williamson and Charlie Cooke recorded an episode of Mad Dogs and Englishmen, which they prophetically titled “Everyone Hates Kevin … Again.” The topics discussed during the episode were, “Kevin’s piece on Lena Dunham, abortion, and the silliness of fetishizing the vote.” Charlie started the discussion by saying, “Tell everyone why the Internet hates you, Kevin,” to which Kevin replied, “It’s Monday.”

Earlier today, Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of The Atlantic, fired Kevin, in part, for comments he made during this podcast. At Ricochet, no idea expressed in a civil manner is ever censored. We are proud to carry the podcast, and proud to be a supporter of such a provocative, biting, fearless, and brilliant writer. Ricochet stands for free expression and inquiry.

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In a rare in-the-same-room-at-the-same-time episode, Charlie and Kevin discuss NR’s new office, conservatives who have sold their souls to anti-Trump, and whether it’s “iPhone X” or “iPhone 10.” Features an unplanned guest appearance by Rich Lowry.

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Kevin and Charlie talk about retrofuturism, Kevin’s interview with Richard Spencer, recent attacks on the First Amendment, and the president’s decision to continue the war in Afghanistan.

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