Three Men and a Baby

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  1. Douglas Inactive
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    “Would you kill baby Hitler?”

    Nah. I’d kidnap him and adopt him out to an Orthodox  Jewish family.

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  2. JimGoneWild Coolidge
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    I haven’t seen the Carmichael Show but ABC’s Blackish is pretty darn funny.

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  3. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    That’s Jedi, not Jedis.

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  4. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Austin Murrey:That’s Jedi, not Jedis.

    Fixed. May The Force be with you, Austin.

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  5. Doctor Robert Member
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    Very very disappointed by the Three making sport of Ben Carson for advocating bravery.  What squishes.  Carson’s life history of working up from urban poverty shows remarkable courage.  Carson’s profession, too; a brain surgeon shows more courage in a day than most of us do in the course of a year; it is not easy to to cut into a living brain, to make someone better at such risk.  He knows from his work what his limits are.  Carson’s faith supports his words as we Christians do not lose in death, even as we love earthly life.  And Carson’s indifference to political niceness, his even-tempered assault on B Hussein Obama at the National Prayer breakfast, his willingness to say the forbidden obvious, all of these are the mark of a brave man.

    Instead of taking cheap shots at a man who has accomplished so much from so little, a man of such integrity and courage, they might acknowledge that yes, striking out against a shooter can be successful, as it has been many times.  And they might encourage such behavior rather than dismissing it summarily.

    You’ve lost a big point with me, laddies.  Upper West side weenies.

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  6. Lidens Cheng Member
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    Doctor Robert:Very very disappointed by the Three making sport of Ben Carson for advocating bravery.

    Me too. I thought Ben Carson was very considerate in his response to the shooting. He gave practical and useful suggestions for us to consider. The first few seconds are very critical for people to act before the killer takes control of the situation.

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  7. 1967mustangman Inactive
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    O come now! Surely Jonah is more Tom Sellick than Rob.

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  8. Cat III Member
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    There’s supposedly a band called Baby Jesus Hitler. Relatedly, the band Nocturnus had a song about building a time machine to go back to murder baby Jesus in the manger, which is tame by metal standards.

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  9. Robert McReynolds Member
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    Three Men & a Baby!! I loved that movie when I was a kid. Right up until someone pointed out the “ghost” in one of the scenes that is plain as day. Rob, your a big shot Hollywood guy. Is there any validity to that?

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  10. Austin Murrey Inactive
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    Thank you, BY. May it also be with you. (I’m a Catholic Jedi).

    Robert: that’s a cardboard cutout: http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/3menbaby.asp

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  11. Johnny Dubya Inactive
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    Based on Rob Long’s recommendation, I am currently looking into obtaining a second mortgage on my home so that I can take the family to see Hamilton.  I loved the podcast’s closing tune, clearly sung by the character of King George III.  The genius of the song is (a) to liken the king to an abusive lover, and (b) to marry dark lyrics with a jaunty tune.

    I have always thought of Hamilton with admiration, but should a conservative with Tea Party tendencies really do so?  As Ron Chernow wrote in a New York Times piece on the Founders and the modern Tea Party, “Hamilton and his Federalist Party espoused a strong federal government, led by a powerful executive branch, and endorsed a liberal reading of the Constitution.”

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  12. Johnny Dubya Inactive
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    George Lucas’s dig at George W. Bush is an example of a typical liberal’s inability to think deeply and analyze beyond the soundbite.  “You’re either with us or against us” is not a cocky cowboy being absolutist.  It is a statesman saying to the Arab/Muslim world:  “It is no longer acceptable for you to play both sides, to countenance and even encourage and fund terrorism, and make conciliatory statements in English while saying intemperate and inflammatory things in Arabic.”

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  13. Statistician1 Inactive
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    I have to disagree with John P. on Carson’s comments about attacking the attacker. As Americans, we should be different and we should charge the guy… at least strive for it…. at least encourage heroism.

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  14. Joe Mitchell Inactive
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    The Jeb did not display any great enthusiasm from the start. Recall his saying repeatedly about common core, immigration, et al, that those were his positions and either the public agreed with him or it did not?  He left the viewer with impression that he was prickly and thin-skinned, and that he was being pushed into running.  I remember saying to myself at the time, is Bush really in this thing?

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  15. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Johnny Dubya:Based on Rob Long’s recommendation, I am currently looking into obtaining a second mortgage on my home so that I can take the family to see Hamilton. I loved the podcast’s closing tune, clearly sung by the character of King George III. The genius of the song is (a) to liken the king to an abusive lover, and (b) to marry dark lyrics with a jaunty tune

    That’s about right. I tried to see it a couple of weeks ago in New York and they wanted $1200 for two tickets.

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  16. Robert McReynolds Member
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    Austin Murrey:Thank you, BY. May it also be with you. (I’m a Catholic Jedi).

    Robert: that’s a cardboard cutout: http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/3menbaby.asp

    Awesome, thanks.

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  17. BD Member
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    Rob Long: “If the people who run Jeb’s Right to Rise Superpac decide, you know what, let’s start running pro-Rubio ads….”

    This is definitely what the Ricochet/National Review crowd wants.

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  18. Look Away Inactive
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    JPod, as one who has been through it, you have to fight the detrimental effects of male menopause. Please give us a break.

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  19. Duane Oyen Member
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    Lidens Cheng:

    Doctor Robert:Very very disappointed by the Three making sport of Ben Carson for advocating bravery.

    Me too. I thought Ben Carson was very considerate in his response to the shooting. He gave practical and useful suggestions for us to consider. The first few seconds are very critical for people to act before the killer takes control of the situation.

    The issue is not the substance, it is the perception of the speaker’s words on those who are not predisposed to like him, as filtered by hostile Legacy Media (I repeat myself….).  Candidates with a tin ear may please their supporters but will lose the swing voters needed to, you know, win.

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  20. The Question Inactive
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    Doctor Robert:Very very disappointed by the Three making sport of Ben Carson for advocating bravery. What squishes. Carson’s life history of working up from urban poverty shows remarkable courage. Carson’s profession, too; a brain surgeon shows more courage in a day than most of us do in the course of a year; it is not easy to to cut into a living brain, to make someone better at such risk. He knows from his work what his limits are. Carson’s faith supports his words as we Christians do not lose in death, even as we love earthly life. And Carson’s indifference to political niceness, his even-tempered assault on B Hussein Obama at the National Prayer breakfast, his willingness to say the forbidden obvious, all of these are the mark of a brave man.

    they might encourage such behavior rather than dismissing it summarily.

    Yes.  I didn’t take Carson’s comments as claiming that he personally is more courageous than the shooting victims. Rather, I understood him to be saying that resisting shooters is the rationally correct course of action to take.  It was refreshing since liberals will congratulate, for example, the men that stopped a potential massacre on a French train, but they refuse to draw any general applications from that specific example.

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  21. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    I was a little surprised at the apparent ignorance of the three of you to the history of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. A very few Jews with, I believe, seven guns held off the German army for nearly a month, April 19th through May 16th, 1943.  The Germans ultimately brought in tanks and cannon to blow down all of the buildings, but the persistence of the resistance demonstrates that had it begun earlier the price the Germans paid for the thousands of Jews they transported and murdered would have been a lot higher.

    There is an opinion shared by many that one of the reasons that Hitler never went into Switzerland is that almost every Swiss is armed to the teeth and well trained in the use of his firearm. That combined with terrain that disallowed the use of tanks made Switzerland a place that would demand too high a price to conquer.

    The two items above are used, not fallaciously, to bolster the idea that an armed population is more likely to be a safe population than one that is disarmed. The fact that the majority of recent “mass murders” have occurred it Gun-Free Zones pretty much seals the argument.

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  22. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    The Colin Quinn joke reminds of Gangs of New York. Am I the only person who watched that and thought, “An Italian is bragging to an Irishman that his ancestors trace back to the first Americans?” I expect there were Irishmen among the Brits who first colonized America. I don’t associate Italians with Revolution-era America at all.

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  23. Steven Potter Thatcher
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    It’s funny that exactly 3 years ago the GLOP podcast was discussing the 2012 election and Disney buying the Star Wars franchise and the bad dialogue of the Star Wars prequels. Today, we’re discussing elections and Star Wars.

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  24. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    Whats the closing song?

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  25. Blue Yeti Admin
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    ToryWarWriter:Whats the closing song?

    You’ll Be Back from Hamilton. 

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  26. Ramblin' Lex Inactive
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    Anybody notice that Alderraan was a gun (blaster) free zone?

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  27. T Inactive
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    Doctor Robert:Very very disappointed by the Three making sport of Ben Carson for advocating bravery. What squishes. Carson’s life history of working up from urban poverty shows remarkable courage. Carson’s profession, too; a brain surgeon shows more courage in a day than most of us do in the course of a year; it is not easy to to cut into a living brain, to make someone better at such risk. He knows from his work what his limits are. Carson’s faith supports his words as we Christians do not lose in death, even as we love earthly life. And Carson’s indifference to political niceness, his even-tempered assault on B Hussein Obama at the National Prayer breakfast, his willingness to say the forbidden obvious, all of these are the mark of a brave man.

    Instead of taking cheap shots at a man who has accomplished so much from so little, a man of such integrity and courage, they might acknowledge that yes, striking out against a shooter can be successful, as it has been many times. And they might encourage such behavior rather than dismissing it summarily.

    You’ve lost a big point with me, laddies. Upper West side weenies.

    Good points. I’d add that it’s entirely reasonable to extol bravery in active shooter situations because if people fight back then less innocents will probably end up dead. As opinions go, there needs to be more of what Carson said in all areas.

    Standing up and fighting for your life, your beliefs, your rights is something that is very American. In a way that statement that Carson made epitomizes the chasm between the American idea and the default position most cultures have throughout the world and time that tilts towards dependence on government or some other earthly power.

    Sure, in real life if I faced this kind of situation I might be pissing my panties hiding behind Rob saying “shoot him first, he’s a Hollywood elitist” but I still support the heroism position because it’s better to aspire towards that than to admit I might fall short.

    Maybe this is just a situation of me looking at this in terms of what is ideal versus the GlOP guys looking at it through the prism of decency to the victims. I don’t fault the victims, I just hope I would try to fight.

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  28. Miffed White Male Member
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    1:  “Only a Sith deals in absolutes” is kind of an absolutist statement, isn’t it?

    2:  Why is everybody obsessed with killing baby Hitler?  How come no on ever wants to go back and kill baby Stalin, or baby Lenin, or baby Mao?  Or even baby Oswald?

    3:  In an active shooter situation, I would hope I’d have the courage to charge the shooter, but of course I don’t know.  But just as the default airline hijacking protocol changed on 9/11 from “cooperate” to “active resistance”, so should our default active shooter protocol change.  If everyone started going at a shooter, someone’s goign to get through.

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  29. kylez Member
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    The answer to the baby Hitler question is simple: No. You have a time machine that can take you anywhere, so you go to WWI, put on an Allied uniform, and kill corporal Hitler.

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  30. Owen Findy Inactive
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    Re John’s opinion about Ben Carson’s claim that he would’ve charged the shooter, since, if you know you’re going to die, that’s what you ought to do…

    I didn’t hear or read the Carson quote.  John’s first disagreement with Carson was that the victims did not know they were going to die.  Well, if Carson put it in terms of knowing (certainty), he was merely creating a straw man for John to tear down.  The better, accurate way to describe such a situation is that, if it looks likely that you’ll die, you should act.  It’s just a matter of likelihoods and trade-offs.  I believe that if you’re in such a situation, and your assessment is that charging the shooter increases the likelihood that you’ll save yourself others, you should emphatically not passively sit and take what looks like death.

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