The Ricochet Podcast Ep. 187: Spanish Peanuts

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The Ricochet Podcast returns with two members of the podcast bullpen getting up to the plate: The Hemingway’s Mollie Hemingway and Need To Know’s Mona Charen discuss the politics of procreation, being a Cards fan in a Red Sox world, and rousing debate on why the shutdown strategy didn’t work. Batter up!

Music from this week’s episode: 

Big Brother by David Bowie

The Ricochet Podcast opening theme was composed and produced by James Lileks.

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  1. Astonishing

    Mona, you keep saying “it’s all in the past,” but you won’t let it go. 

    Fortunately, it is not all in the past. The good effects of the shutdown will come all in the future. The immense value of the shutdown was as a clarifying moment, whose positive after-effects will increase over time.

  2. Foxfier

    ….how would the amendment that we’d supposedly “dare” Obama to veto actually reach him?  Reid didn’t let anything else for a vote– did someone have incriminating pictures they’d only use for the “Obamacare hits the Congress, too” vote?

  3. clmac

    I’ll give them a shot, but it just won’t be the same. While I’m thinking about it, here’s a really bad joke.

    Q: What do Democrats use for  a jock strap? A: Two rubber bands and a peanut shell.

    James Lileks: clmac: Planter’s GoldenRoast. I’ll get you through the tough times until the memory fades. ;) · 8 hours ago

  4. MisterSirius

    Blue Yeti–Bowie’s “Big Brother” as outro? I didn’t see that coming. Woah. Head spinning timewarp…worlds in collision…get that tune out of my head…must…reach…the…history…eraser…button…

  5. Foxfier
    MisterSirius: Blue Yeti–Bowie’s “Big Brother” as outro? 

    Watch that movie where he’s the Goblin King.

    That I enjoy his music partly because of that movie probably says something….

  6. Foxfier
    Astonishing

    But then, if my memory serves, she couldn’t resist circling back later with a wane accusation that Cruz was guilty of “line-jumping,” pushing himself ahead of higher-ranking establishment graybeards formerly at the front of the line opposing ObamaCare.

    Here’s the problem with Mona’s “line-jumping” accusation: The previous accusation was Cruz was “suicidal,” so the line Mona now says Cruz was jumping to the front of was, so we were previously told, a “suicide line” no sane Republican would enter. If so, how could Cruz be guilty of elbowing his betters out ofthatline?

    She said she believed that there as no question that the Republicans opposed Obamacare….they just weren’t doing anything, apparently….

    Even here folks weren’t “clear” that Republicans oppose Obamacare, so outside of those folks who believe the News when it says how horrible Republicans are for not wanting to Give You Free Stuff, I’m not sure what demographic was aware the Republicans oppose Obamacare before this.

  7. Kim K.

    It was great having Mollie on again.  I’m glad Mona had a chance to clarify, but I’m not sure she convinced anyone. Troy is a great sub – Rob better watch out!  Peter and James – excellent, as usual. This is definitely my favorite Ricochet podcast.

  8. Had to. Peter Robinson is a huge Bowie fan.  

    MisterSirius: Blue Yeti–Bowie’s “Big Brother” as outro? I didn’t see that coming. Woah. Head spinning timewarp…worlds in collision…get that tune out of my head…must…reach…the…history…eraser…button… · 1 hour ago

  9. swatter

    Mona, a Ricochettette, was always against the strategy. Of course, I am sure, she was hammered and called a RINO. Yet, in none of the podcasts did she whine about it.

    In my words, she “manned up” (in past comments, that word also was used to describe Thatcher and Kirkpatrick, so it is high praise). I wish the so-called conservatives who were ‘hurt’ and wounded by the opposition to their views could have also ‘manned up’.

    Mona gave a well thought out response to why her opposition to the strategy was right. She was right, but everyone on both sides knew it wasn’t going to repeal Obamacare. What she didn’t realize, it was supposed to be just another sword cut in a Death by a Thousand cuts.

    Also, has anyone in the Surrender Caucus said what their plan was? Goldberg? Podhoretz? Anyone? McCain?

  10. Mr Tall

    Very enjoyable podcast!

    I wish there had been more time to discuss the ‘fecundaphobia’ Mollie described. James mentioned how Deadspin and other media not only excoriate married athletes who have big families, but lionize those, such as Adrian Peterson, who father many children via hook-ups and other short-term ‘relationships’. 

    I read Deadspin, and I’d like to expand a bit on James’s point. It was indeed a tragedy that Adrian Peterson’s son was murdered. But then a couple of sports columnists had the temerity to report that Peterson had never met his son until he was dying in a hospital, and how this complicated Peterson’s media elevation from Sports Hero to Noble Victim.

    Deadspin’s contributors (and, even more so, readers’ comments) just blasted these writers, accusing them of racism and insensitivity (one is labelled a ‘race-baiting troll‘), but even more so mocking them relentlessly for saying that it’s better a man knows who his children are.

    I find it hard to plumb the depth of this cultural decay:

    Traditional father with many children: risible, and likely evil. 

    Sexual libertine who commits to no woman or children: hero.

  11. clmac

    Every time I go to my mother-in-law’s house, she has a can of Planter’s Spanish Peanuts on the counter that I munch on constantly while we visit. While that comment was hilarious, I want to thank James Lileks personally for ruining one my favorite snacks.

  12. Listening to the podcast now.  One thing you said that not even Enron advisor Paul Krugman could deny is that Kathleen S has absolutely no clue at all what’s going on or what needs to be done.

  13. Don Tillman

    Thanks for the shoutout, Peter.  I am thoroughly honored.

  14. James Lileks
    C

    clmac: Planter’s GoldenRoast. I’ll get you through the tough times until the memory fades. ;)

  15. Peter Robinson
    C
    Don Tillman: Thanks for the shoutout, Peter.  I am thoroughly honored. · 4 minutes ago

    Are you kidding?  We’re honored to have you here on Ricochet!

  16. Peter Robinson
    C
    Blue Yeti: Had to. Peter Robinson is a huge Bowie fan.   · 1 hour ago

    MisterSirius: Blue Yeti–Bowie’s “Big Brother” as outro? I didn’t see that coming. Woah. Head spinning timewarp…worlds in collision…get that tune out of my head…must…reach…the…history…eraser…button… · 1 hour ago

    Edited 1 hour ago

    During the winter of 1988, I took leave from the White House to spend a couple of months in Switzerland as a research assistant to William F. Buckley, Jr.–Bill spent every winter in Gstaad, writing books by day and dining out with with movie stars and royalty by night.  At dinner one night, I found myself seated across from David Bowie.

    So there.

  17. Rawls

    Peter, the way to avoid more children from being born out of wedlock is to increase access to birth control. You asked Mona for a solution, but there are only trade offs here. Less single parentage or less birth control.

  18. EJHill

    David Bowie… Wasn’t he some megastar’s last duet partner?

  19. Astonishing
    swatter:. . . .in none of the podcasts did she whine about it.. . .

    It depends on what sounds like whining to you. I heard a fair amount of whining from her, but I guess whining is in the ear of the behearer.

    I am ready to “move on and unite,” but if Mona keeps taking backwards swipes at Cruz and the TP, she’ll have to expect to get something in return.

  20. Mollie Hemingway
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    Peter Robinson

    Chris O.: I’d love to hear about the conversation between Buckley, Robinson and Bowie. Not that a starstruck Peter would necessarily remember! · 25 minutes ago

    Bowie at dinner was quiet, modest, soft-spoken, and more interested in what others had to say than in talking himself.  Just struck me as a nice, quiet guy.  Hard to believe, I know, but there you are. · 10 hours ago

    This is the coolest story ever. I’m a huge Bowie fan, of course, and love him so much that I can’t stop listening to Arcade Fire’s latest (Reflektor).


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