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You may have heard a rumor about Jonah’s ability to purchase a pair of pants. On this week’s episode of GLoP Culture, Goldberg bravely addresses these scurrilous reports and refutes a certain follicle challenged Presidential candidate’s assertions about his haberdasher purchasing skills. Also, The GLoP take on Greece, the GLoP daughters review Inside Out, decaying Manhattan, the genius of Idiocracy, RIP Omar Sharif, and some GLoP suggestions on movies you haven’t seen.
Update: Thanks, EJHill.
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Trump as a stalking horse for Hillary is the scariest thing I’ve heard today.
Pray his sycophants wake up in time.
It astounds me that the popularity of Trump’s rants against illegal immigration is not seen as a signal that the issue is a legitimate one for other candidates to espouse.
I didn’t know Omar Sharif was still alive.
Yes. He survived being crushed in a car during the filming of Top Secret!
It was particularly fascinating when discussing the conversation with the left that GLOP described exactly what went on in a workshop that my school faculty was forced to sit through called “The Courageous Conversation”. It seems as though the left used the schools as a place to rehearse and develop their program. The depression that John describes pretty much describes what that workshop and a dozen that followed caused in experienced, dedicated teachers. What you are now describing is the effect after seven years of the country being subjected to the idea that no matter what changes you make, no matter how much you give up, they will never be satisfied. Every change, every sacrifice becomes the new baseline. You can never achieve balance because you, the White Collective, do not deserve to ever be forgiven for what was done by the Collective. Only those on the left could convince themselves that they were absolved, though like the early leaders of the French Revolution, they were deluding themselves. Welcome to the world I left two years ago when I retired. I cannot tell you the relief I felt leaving a profession that I had loved.
Who filled his pants? Claire would never have written that headline.
If Bush hasn’t faded within six months, the GOP is completely screwed. The middle of the country will not vote for another Bush.
Traditionally, GLoP’s been one of my favorite podcasts. In particular, I get to hear Mr. Podhoretz, a guy with generally great insight and a great sense of humor, who doesn’t get nearly as much air time as Mr. Goldberg and Mr. Long.
This episode was a bitter disappointment. I’ll never vote for Trump, but I appreciate that he’s throwing some hand grenades at all the candidates over illegal immigration. Already, we’re seeing people harshly question the PC approach to the matter. We’re also seeing people begin to break up and address discrete aspects of the problem (sanctuary cities, lack of reporting on crime committed by illegal immigrants) rather than condescendingly assuring buck-toothed rubes like me that DC going to square everything away in a gigantic “comprehensive immigration reform” bill that will be written by the hard left, read by no one, and reported as the solution to all our problems.
I stopped listening when Mr. Long–someone I find interesting, smart, and very humorous, even if he’s a RINO squish–gratuitously took an extended shot at some stereotypical Costco greeter. Now, I use my membership maybe once every four weeks, and I have yet to come across such a greeter. And while I’ve been suspicious of the store ever since I learned its founder is a big Obama supporter, the place seems to run itself in a pretty conservative (or at worst, neutral) manner. It carries virtually all of the books written by conservatives. For what it’s worth, that was a childish transition to Greece.
Anyway, dump on Trump all you want. But through about 55 minutes, I found the podcast exceedingly condescending. So I stopped listening.
RE: The growth rate
We need political leadership in an era of cheap global labor and robots. A value added economy. Our whole economy needs to be based on both doing what we add value to for export and otherwise getting the cost of living down via productivity.
The short story is the Fed and the government have to do way less, except for some central planning around energy. Nukes and natural gas for transportation.
There are no jobs and the cost of everything that isn’t a durable good (because they are manufactured overseas) is going up like crazy. Everything you are forced to buy is gong up too fast for the 99%.
This will never happen until the bond market collapses. We are doomed.
After listening to this podcast, I miss Mark Steyn.
The other way to say it is, we need a way less inflation-istic economy. Asset bubbles, inflation not in the CPI. The problem is the banking system and the political system can’t hack it.
Is Trump even a good businessman?
I need you all to understand something.
Everybody knows that everything Trump is saying is BS
The part you are missing is that everything you say is BS too. From beginning to end, top to bottom; its all BS. And has been for at least as long as I have been alive. Everybody knows this. Your lack of self-awareness is your intellectual and emotional shortcoming, and nobody else’s.
So what we have here is a situation akin to a bar pickup and we’re the bar sluts. We all know its BS, but you want to get laid and so do we. So we choose to pretend its not BS.
If you are going to neg, don’t be bad at it. All that a bad neg does is expose the realpolitik that we would all rather pretend doesn’t exist.
Trump is spitting better game right now. Up your game. Pretending that your lines aren’t BS flies in the face of essentially all parts of the past 40 years, and the rate at which you will dump on the few glimmers of sincerity.
So, in a choice between the liar with good game, and the liar with bad game, the good game wins. Complaining just makes you look pathetic. Stop. Just Stop. Seriously Stop. It doesn’t help you at all.
Now buy me a drink (and it had better have an umbrella) and tell me how pretty my eyes are.
Since it is not possible for me to be rational or civil on this subject, I was very grateful to let GLoP perform the carving of the T-Rump roast.
And I recommend Jonah’s excellent column in which he only needed one aster*sk along the way to keep it G-rated:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421045/donald-trump-fraud?target=author&tid=897
My first thought after reading the title was that there certainly is a pant-load in Trump’s campaign and it doesn’t smell pleasant.
Sometimes wish this was the Glo podcast, not GLoP. Podhoretz is insufferable and condescending. Maybe people who vote for people like Perot and Trump have legitimate grievances that major parties aren’t addressing.
Having now read JP’s review of Inside Out, I do not concur on 2 points. First, to draw such a distinction between Riley and 5 emotions in the command center is unreasonable. Riley’s character is the amalgam of those five. Thus, we care about Riley because we care about the five, and vice versa.
*Spoiler* At the end, when Riley runs away, we know both that she is making a mistake and that Anger has made a mistake. We feel terror on the bus both because the emotions have been locked out of control, and also because we know that Riley has completely shut down her personality. *End Spoiler*
Additionally, Amy Poehler is an excellent casting choice for Joy, but not because she’s a beautiful actress (she’s doing VA, her looks are irrelevant). No, she’s a great casting choice because her voice is perky, with that constant subtext of “Punch me in the face.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5G3jBtrIAc
Very appropriate for the false happiness she enforces on the mind.
Also, yeah, the “white jerk vote?” Seriously? It couldn’t have been anything to do with the giant sucking sound from Mexico? Most of the people here are free traders, but your entire assessment of the people who got to enjoy an involuntary transition is “white jerk?”
Sabrdance,
You have inspired me to watch Falling Down again. I don’t know why.
Iam repeating Peter Fumo’s point, glop is a word I associate with muck, take out the P and you get GLOw .
Podhoretz is at best a New Yorkist. who still has the bi coastal fly over USA poster on his wall.
90 million Americans don’t vote , even for a president , taking the PC out of the immigration discussion could impact millions to vote.
I had to listen to GLoP to get called a “White Jerk Voter.” Apparently the definition of a “White Jerk” is a conservative who doesn’t vote Republican. Or doesn’t vote the way Podhoretz tells him to.
Podhoretz doesn’t have a clue what made me vote for Perot. Is there some reason he has credibility on any other topic?
For two straight GLOP podcasts we have had ordinary Americans put down. First was Kevin Williams with his “heartland” crack, then Podhoretz remark about Perot voters. We recognize that most of, myself included, don’t do political commentary for a living. We also are not policy wonks. However, some of you people are coming across as incredibly elitist. I will at least give props to Rob for at least making some attempt to understand the concerns of ordinary voters. Not a great way to build up Ricochet members.
Yes, I don’t know how many Perot voters are on Ricochet as they don’t generally trumpet it, but it would thin out fast if we cleared out the “white jerks.” I’d venture to say “white jerks” constitute a substantial portion of the electorate, too. What was that definition? People who think “things used to be better”, and who “think they pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps” ? Podhoretz is channeling Obama.
I agree. And it would be easy for them to do so — simply say something soothing and moderate like “I disagree with Trump’s hateful rhetoric blah blah blah” and then call for border security measures that are demonstrably effective before any other immigration reform legislation.
Some of these guys, I think, are just waiting to see if he’ll flame out by himself, probably when he has to make his complete financial disclosures.
Wow. What an indictment of the academy.
You misheard me. I didn’t take a shot at a Costco greeter. (In fact, at my Costsco anyway, they’re aren’t any greeters!) I was recounting a scene from a movie, Idiocracy, set at a Costco in the future, where the greeters say “Welcome to Costco! I love you!” because in the future, America has descended into stupidity and vacuousness and exactly the sort of thing we conservatives are against.
I like my Costco. Just not on the weekends.
On Trump:
While I’m generally on Jonah’s side of the Trump-Jonah fight, and think that there’s a big carnival barker aspect to Trump, I think the GLoP crew is misreading the situation, seriously: just because he’s been a schmuck and has taken the opposition position on these issues in the past, doesn’t mean that he hasn’t since looked around and went “Holy crap, things are going to hell, and we’d better do something about it”. Is Trump a “serious” candidate? Define serious. I think you’re making a mistake if you think Trump really doesn’t want to be President. I think he does. If you guys, and the RNC, think this is just a publicity stunt, eh, I think you’re gonna be surprised, and not pleasantly. I think he’s looked around and went “These chumps couldn’t tie their own shoelaces. I build skyscrapers. I’ll do this”. Hubris? Probably, at least some. Is he underestimating what the job entails? Almost certainly. But un-serious? Nope.
contd…
As for why Trump has risen so fast, I think that’s bloody obvious to everyone but the candidates and the RNC (save Ted Cruz, who tends to “get it” on these things). Trump is saying out loud what most of us are thinking, and his critics are confirming, out loud, what they always thought of the base. Trump has drawn them out on that. The GOP created this void when they and their corporate-friendly funders suppressed the concerns and fears about this stuff, about illegal immigration, and the defacto support for illegal aliens by business interests that so often dictate what the GOP does. We know we’re being used; they want our votes, they promise to do something about the problem, then when they win, we’re expected to sit down and shut up. We’re not stupid, despite what some may think.
When you get right down to it, the GOP establishment made Trump 2016. They created this huge void, and someone was going to fill it. Every time someone like a Ted Cruz tried, his own party leadership attacked, so terribly worried about what the fourth estate would say. So now you get Donald Trump. Enjoy. Keep up with the white jerk voter stuff. You only feed Trump when you do. We don’t want Bush. We don’t want Rubio. The more the GOP tries to stuff them down our throats, the more rebellious the base will be.
I was only 11 in 1992 and have never heard that thing about Bush interrupting Perot’s daughter’s wedding and Perot’s revenge. What was that?
“white jerk voter” sounds pretty good to me now.
Listening to the complaints about Trump, I’m getting the same reaction I had to Greg Gutfeld supporting mandatory vaccinations a couple of months ago. His side lost the argument (and to a former Playboy centerfold) so he’s ready to pass a law. Make a better argument, or find another line of work. Since the vaccines actually have the science on their side, it should be easy to convince people. If you think Trump is a such a fool, it should be very easy to demonstrate that to people.
But in the meantime, he’s the only Republican candidate who has brought a campaign topic into anything like a ‘national conversation’. Would anyone have heard of Kathryn Steinle if we weren’t already talking about immigration?
The data that backs up Trumps immigration rant
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/07/10/report_proves_trump_right_on_illegal_alien_crime_numbers