Moe Vela, former Senior Advisor to Vice President #JoeBiden and Vice President Al Gore discusses Biden”s response #TaraReade’s allegations and today’s #MeToo compared with #Kavanaugh. Dave also goes into Joe’s mental acuity, election 2020, values, and why Joe is promising to choose a VP based on gender and/or race. Moe was in charge of Human Resources while he was in the White House with Vice President Biden. He has been seen and quoted in CBS News, Fox News, The Hill, Yahoo TV, CGTN, Bloomberg, BBC, Politico, Fox Business and more. Find Moe on Twitter at http://twitter.com/moevela.

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  1. Dr.Guido Member

    Wow. That was the first and hopefully the last time I’ll have to listen to Moe Vela. And I’ve been a political junkie since 1959/60….I had heard OF him but was mercifully ‘Vela free’ in audio experience…It was also the first time I tuned into ‘Whiskey Politics’ and…if Moe Vela is representative of the guests you get then it may be a last also. (Given whom you said will be your guest next week I’ll give it one more shot.)

    How can someone inflate himself and proclaim his honesty and truthfulness over and over and over with almost every sentence and then go on to spew so many inanities ranging from Trump (and I was a #NeverTrumper) unpreparedness to dismantling the WH preparedness office—did YOU not know that the former head of that Office himself testified that it was reorganized and NOT dismantled? Why did YOU not ask him how many US citizens and Green Card holders HE and Joe would have kept from returning home? Why did YOU not mention to him that Biden called Trump’s closure ‘premature’ and ‘racist’? And on and on and on….Why am I not surprised that he was in the Gore camp?

    The # of times he starts with ‘Let’s be honest…’ is erosive, corrosive and disingenuous especially when it leads to the preposterous defense of Joe’s mental acuity —and what a ‘GREAT job’ he did as Mika sliced and diced and froze him for a full 15 seconds by asking him a question HE HAD TO KNOW WAS COMING eventually (but probably not from her.)

    As to the governors…it’s almost a fulfillment of Jonah Goldberg’s LIBERAL FASCISM in that he will not see the dramatic in-your-face authoritarian power grab being enjoyed (literally, as Joe would say!) —ENJOYED!!—by the blue state governors ranging from Michigan to CA and CT to NJ and especially New York’s newest thug, Andy Cuomo.

    I am old and cynical and have been a financial advisor for 45 years…I did NOT find him to be an honest broker. It was kind of you to say so but you did NOT need to blow air up his skirt simply because he was your guest.

    His ‘values’ rant was simply despicable…to be aligned with Obama—(Benghazi and IRS raids in enemies and premature withdrawal and unenforced ‘Red Lines’ and the Syrian/Kurd/Christian dead….regulation after regulation followed by re-regulation)….what THE HELL is this Moe Vela talking about when HE speaks of ‘values’?

    Not going for identity politics? That Joe has adopted @ 99.99% of the Sanders platform already while Moe is trying to dance around diminishing merit from gender politics ….?? This guy is why the word oleaginous was coined.

    You do not know me—but no one who does would label me as a ‘crazy, far right wacko’…they would call me a principled, well educated and consistent, moral Conservative….and as such Moe Vela would be among the last people I would want to blow another 2 —much less 63!– minutes with…A drink with him? I’ve never been that thirsty or that lonely.

    Another voice from The Left. Whatever they touch they make worse…from agriculture to culture to trade to foreign relations and every gap that exists among those areas…A pox on those wannabe saviors. Every last one of them.

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    • May 2, 2020, at 2:55 PM PDT
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  2. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Hey, @drguido Give the podcast more of a chance. Dave has done great interviews in the past – this clearly wasnt one of them. He has a wide variety of guests, from inside Molly’s Game with Houston Curtis (one of my recent favorites) to Blair White, and Bo Snerdly.

    I dint like this interview either. As soon as someone starts his statement with “My Friend” I think he’s underlining the fact that we’re not friends. Its a rhetorical crutch that grinds my gears – like someone randomly calling me “Son”… Like hell no! The funny thing is, this guy probably thinks he’s a fair critic – that he’s a completely unhinged and irrational has completely escaped his notice.

    The Values crap is the refuge of a politician who wants to sound noble without thinking of a specific program with a specific price tag. He gets unearned valor of having values without having to defend specifics. Its what ultimately sank Elizabeth Warren, she had a lot of support for her talking points, until she got specific about what features and costs her program entail, that support evaporated.

     

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    • May 2, 2020, at 6:23 PM PDT
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  3. Fourth The Sixth Listener

    Vela is a partisan shill. 

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    • May 2, 2020, at 6:32 PM PDT
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  4. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Moe Vela is completely full of it. I turned this off.

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    • May 2, 2020, at 6:40 PM PDT
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  5. RufusRJones Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    Hey, @drguido Give the podcast more of a chance. Dave has done great interviews in the past –

    Whiskey Politics is an absolutely superior podcast. I haven’t listen to this yet, but it’s only one out of dozens of great ones. Dave is an excellent interviewer and speaker. 

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    • May 3, 2020, at 1:20 AM PDT
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  6. Hank Rhody, Badgeless Bandito Contributor

    I rather liked the bit where he took credit for Y2K being nothing. “I was on a comission of 700 — seven hundred! — people working on a project to push the tide back out. And you know what? By the end of the day that tide was pushed all the way out!”

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    • May 3, 2020, at 2:33 AM PDT
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  7. Jim Wright Coolidge

    A solid interview with a despicable guest.

    I agree with Dr. Guido down the line about Vela, but not about this podcast, which I thoroughly enjoy. I would urge you to go through the archives; he’s had many fantastic interviews with great guests. Most aren’t this combative or unpleasant.

    I think we can sum up Vela’s attitude with this Remy classic.

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    • May 3, 2020, at 2:41 AM PDT
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  8. Jim Wright Coolidge

    Hank Rhody, Badgeless Bandito (View Comment):

    I rather liked the bit where he took credit for Y2K being nothing. “I was on a comission of 700 — seven hundred! — people working on a project to push the tide back out. And you know what? By the end of the day that tide was pushed all the way out!”

    Yeah, I was one of an army of tens of thousands of software developers and testers across the country who actually did the heavy lifting to make sure the code was ready. We started during the Bush 41 years.

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    • May 3, 2020, at 2:48 AM PDT
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  9. Adriana Harris Member

    Mo Vela. What can I say. Let’s start with yuck. The sanctimony, the mendacity…he makes my skin crawl. His father had dementia so he’s an expert. Joe Biden never sexually assaulted him, therefore he never sexually assaulted any woman (never mind Tara Reade is his eighth accuser). He was in the room for disaster planning so he knows everything. If he was in the room, then where was all the PPE the Obama administration failed to replenish? At best Joe Biden was a dimwitted jerk who profited off his political position. He’s now diminished from that pathetic height. Mo Vela is the perfect champion for such a wretched man.

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    • May 3, 2020, at 8:14 AM PDT
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  10. colleenb Member
    colleenb Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I don’t think I’ll waste my time with this particular interview. As Mona Charen said (one of the few times I agreed with her), I get enough Democratic/liberal/progessive/whatever view all day everyday without having to be ‘fair’ and listen to the other side. I don’t need to listen to more of the Democrats when I can listen to a non-insane viewpoint. I agree that I generally enjoy Whiskey Politics so this must be a one off and/or Dave is thinking (as I said earlier) that he has to be ‘fair’ and bring in the other side sometime. No you don’t. We get that everywhere else.

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    • May 3, 2020, at 8:56 AM PDT
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  11. RufusRJones Member

    I heard that 43 was panicked about a pandemic by 2005. In 2006 the governors had a plan and nobody followed up on it. Each state was supposed to have plenty of PPE. Of course they didn’t. I think I’ve seen the PDF for this on the Internet. This is all very easily verified. 

    The thing is, the right amount of PPE for a pandemic ties up a staggering amount of capital. Some of it has expiration dates. It literally spoils. Nobody is going to get any political power by doing the right thing for this.

    The other thing is, there obviously wasn’t any plan for the financial system and having the whole planet take a six week vacation. This country has too much debt, too many broke people, and too many fix payments to not have a plan even though the Fed can print plenty of money. This is the destruction of human and financial capital we are talking about. We are ruled by idiots, but Trump isn’t to blame for this.

    The definition of small business is under 500 employees. They have got to open up.

    Dave nailed the values issue. 

    We have to have universal coverage, but the ACA is a disaster. The left has forfeited their right to be trusted on it. 

    The contagiousness as measured by the R0 isn’t that bad. It’s bad because we don’t have a vaccine and we are doing the therapeutics by the seat of our pants.

    10 years of sub 3% GDP is not a strong economy. The fact is the federal reserve is blowing another bubble. There is nothing Trump can do about that. Trump got the GDP up because he D regulated.

    I don’t see the point of interviewing Democrats unless it’s about a single specific policy topic.

    He makes it sound like he’s just like Alan Dershowitz in terms of political views. I highly doubt it. Democrats that think like that don’t have any power.

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    • May 3, 2020, at 10:11 AM PDT
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  12. LibertyDefender Member

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    Hey, @drguido Give the podcast more of a chance. Dave has done great interviews in the past –

    Whiskey Politics is an absolutely superior podcast. … Dave is an excellent interviewer and speaker.

    Agreed re Whiskey Politics. @davesussman is a good interviewer.

    Moe Vela is just flat out dishonest. If Dave had called him out on it, the interview would have ended. I wish Dave had called him out on it.

    Adriana Harris (View Comment):

    Mo Vela. What can I say. Let’s start with yuck. The sanctimony, the mendacity…he makes my skin crawl.

    Moe Vela is dishonest. I wish Dave had called him out on his blatant dishonesty.

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I heard that 43 was panicked about a pandemic by 2005. In 2006 the governors had a plan and nobody followed up on it. Each state was supposed to have plenty of PPE. Of course they didn’t. I think I’ve seen the PDF for this on the Internet. This is all very easily verified.

    The thing is, the right amount of PPE for a pandemic ties up a staggering amount of capital. Some of it has expiration dates. It literally spoils. Nobody is going to get any political power by doing the right thing for this.

    The nation’s electric grid is vulnerable to any manner of terrorist attack, especially to an electromagnetic pulse attack and even a cyberattack – just ask Ted Koppel. So we need to invest capital to protect the nation’s electric grid.

    But rogue nations are developing ICBMs to deliver the nuclear weapons they have already developed, and the reactors in our nuclear submarine fleet are reaching their hard expiration date. We need to invest capital to rebuild the nuclear submarine fleet, arguably the the most important element of the nuclear triad.

    Government is the worst at assigning priority to these necessary investments.

    Obama’s administration – of which the blatantly dishonest Moe Vela was a part – weaponized the IRS, the EPA, the Department of Justice – including the FBI, the Department of Labor, the Department of Energy, even the Department of Education to advance statist-leftist positions in violation of individual rights.

    Moe Vela, go to Hela.

    Note: I didn’t finish the whole podcast, by the half-dozenth or so time that the blatantly dishonest Moe Vela claimed that there was no double standard in the treatment of Tara Reade v. Christine Blasey Ford, I had to bail.

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  13. RufusRJones Member

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):
    the reactors in our nuclear submarine fleet are reaching their hard expiration date. We need to invest capital to rebuild the nuclear submarine fleet, arguably the the most important element of the nuclear triad.

    Hugh Hewitt is always talking about investing in the Navy. I think he’s right.

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):
    Obama’s administration – of which the blatantly dishonest Moe Vela was a part – weaponized the IRS, the EPA, the Department of Justice – including the FBI, the Department of Labor, the Department of Energy, even the Department of Education to advance statist-leftist positions in violation of individual rights.

    Too many GOP are very stupid about this.

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):

    Moe Vela, go to Hela.

    Note: I didn’t finish the whole podcast, by the half-dozenth or so time that the blatantly dishonest Moe Vela claimed that there was no double standard in the treatment of Tara Reade v. Christine Blasey Ford, I had to bail.

    When I saw all of the complaints, I listened to it at double-speed. Sometimes it makes it harder to learn something. Sometimes you hear everything perfectly. In this case it just didn’t matter. 

    The starting point with dealing with Democrats is “why do you believe in “non-public goods”? It’s all BS. We don’t need the government to produce non-public goods. Public unions are a disaster. Every single government actuarial system is a disaster. It’s all worthless. The government is bad at financial regulation for variety of reasons, many of which serve the Democrat party. Then you just have some social issues to sort out.

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  14. David Hoskins Lincoln

    Moe Vela certainly revealed himself as the Senate Democrats revealed themselves (in Kavanaugh confirmation), as the House Democrats revealed themselves (impeachment) – irrational, due process averse, power hungry, can’t-go-too-low practitioners of personal destructive, Orange Man Bad bigots. Seemed a waste of Mr Sussman’s time, as it was a waste of mine; not to put too fine a point on it.

    I commend Mr Sussman’s efforts to be polite to the gentleman, though little did he deserve it.

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    • May 4, 2020, at 3:27 PM PDT
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  15. Dave Sussman Contributor

    Hey folks, thanks for the comments. Seems some people didn’t care much for Moe, lol. 

    Check out Carrie Severino’s take on this, coming up later today. (Originally supposed to be in this episode but both went too long).

    Thanks for watching!

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    • May 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM PDT
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  16. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Hey folks, thanks for the comments. Seems some people didn’t care much for Moe, lol.

    Check out Carrie Severino’s take on this, coming up later today. (Originally supposed to be in this episode but both went too long).

    Thanks for watching!

    Sorry this episode wasnt well received. I think if you want to have an interesting conversation with a democrat, you’ll have to find one interested in conversation. I wonder would someone like Bob Beckel or Johnathon Turley would be interested. I think they both have at least met a republican before.

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    • May 6, 2020, at 10:24 AM PDT
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  17. Dave Sussman Contributor

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Hey folks, thanks for the comments. Seems some people didn’t care much for Moe, lol.

    Check out Carrie Severino’s take on this, coming up later today. (Originally supposed to be in this episode but both went too long).

    Thanks for watching!

    Sorry this episode wasnt well received. I think if you want to have an interesting conversation with a democrat, you’ll have to find one interested in conversation. I wonder would someone like Bob Beckel or Johnathon Turley would be interested. I think they both have at least met a republican before.

    We are trying to get a certain baseball-capped. heavy set Michigander.

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    • May 6, 2020, at 11:19 AM PDT
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  18. Jim Wright Coolidge

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Hey folks, thanks for the comments. Seems some people didn’t care much for Moe, lol.

    Check out Carrie Severino’s take on this, coming up later today. (Originally supposed to be in this episode but both went too long).

    Thanks for watching!

    I thought you did a great job interviewing Vela. And I do often enjoy podcasts where respectful conversation with “the other side” occurs. I just didn’t find Vela very respectful. I’ve had less wheres-the-exit conversations with some vegans, Crossfitters, and essential oils salesmen. Vela reminded me more of 2020 Max Boot and Jen Rubin. I do applaud you for a noble effort and for being so gracious to someone who could stand to learn a few lessons from you.

    Enjoying the Carrie Severino episode far; listening now!

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    • May 6, 2020, at 11:38 AM PDT
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  19. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Hey folks, thanks for the comments. Seems some people didn’t care much for Moe, lol.

    Check out Carrie Severino’s take on this, coming up later today. (Originally supposed to be in this episode but both went too long).

    Thanks for watching!

    Sorry this episode wasnt well received. I think if you want to have an interesting conversation with a democrat, you’ll have to find one interested in conversation. I wonder would someone like Bob Beckel or Johnathon Turley would be interested. I think they both have at least met a republican before.

    We are trying to get a certain baseball-capped. heavy set Michigander.

    I think a lot of people blame Jon Stewart’s show for a lot of this. But I think it goes back further, to the 90s and CNN’s Crossfire, which started out with the best of intentions but turned into a Kabuki sumo screaming match where each debater attempted to load the mic with his argument, and prevent his opponent from being heard.

    I think if there where to be a new news debate program it should be a search for consensus rather than for an ideological victory. For example, in order to get a school reform package, what concessions would you be willing to make? For a democrat, this would be an entirely new thought process, as the media has never asked them about a possible compromise.

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  20. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Hey folks, thanks for the comments. Seems some people didn’t care much for Moe, lol.

    Check out Carrie Severino’s take on this, coming up later today. (Originally supposed to be in this episode but both went too long).

    Thanks for watching!

    Sorry this episode wasnt well received. I think if you want to have an interesting conversation with a democrat, you’ll have to find one interested in conversation. I wonder would someone like Bob Beckel or Johnathon Turley would be interested. I think they both have at least met a republican before.

    We are trying to get a certain baseball-capped. heavy set Michigander.

    crap. I never knew Bob Beckel wore a ball cap – but then I realized you mean Micheal Moore. That conversation will go not much further than this one did.

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  21. RufusRJones Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    then I realized you mean Micheal Moore. That conversation will go not much further than this one did.

    He’s saying a lot of politically incorrect things about green energy. The truth in other words. It will definitely be constructive in that sense.

    Other than that, he is a Gated Community Socialist that doesn’t have the slightest idea how to have a society that has fair opportunity and a more distributed prosperity. 

     

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  22. Randy Weivoda Moderator
    Randy Weivoda Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Dr.Guido (View Comment):
    Wow. That was the first and hopefully the last time I’ll have to listen to Moe Vela. And I’ve been a political junkie since 1959/60….I had heard OF him but was mercifully ‘Vela free’ in audio experience…It was also the first time I tuned into ‘Whiskey Politics’ and…if Moe Vela is representative of the guests you get then it may be a last also. (Given whom you said will be your guest next week I’ll give it one more shot.)

    I haven’t listened to this episode yet because I’ve always got about a two-week backlog of podcasts to catch up on. But I’ve listened to many episodes of Whiskey Politics and can tell you that Dave interviews a wide variety of guests. It’s easy to pull up all the old podcasts for proof. You’re going to agree with some guests, disagree with others, but it’s cool (I think) that Dave brings in guests that are not on the normal right wing rotation.

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    • May 9, 2020, at 8:11 AM PDT
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