Victor Davis Hanson discusses the damaging disclosure about Obama keeping tabs on the FBI Hillary Clinton email investigation, State Department unmasking, why Hillary’s and Obama’s hubris may be their own downfall and how this can very well be a Watergate or Iran-Contra type scandal. We go into the 2018 election and what the GOP needs to keep Congress, how English speaking immigrants on the farm voted for Trump and the DACA/illegal immigration debate. What did Victor have to say about ‘elites’ including George Will, Bret Stephens, and Bill Kristol? We conclude the hour with his thoughts on how to decentralize America’s and world governing bodies and bring them closer to the people they supposedly represent.

‘VDH’ is an American military historian, columnist, a former classics professor, and scholar of ancient warfare. He was a professor of classics at California State University, Fresno, and is currently a Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution as well as a visiting professor at Hillsdale College. Hanson was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2007 by President George W. Bush. Unlike most everyone he writes about, Victor is also a farmer in central California. He is a widely read author of dozens of books, a frequent guest on multiple news programs, you can find his columns everywhere, including the National Review, Townhall, American Greatness. His most recent book is The Second World Wars – How the First Global Conflict was Fought and Won.

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There are 22 comments.

  1. Inactive

    Brilliant interview with the Great VDH. Dr. Hanson’s feet are planted firmly in the land of average America, and though I love my conservative friends who live and breathe politics, they sometimes get stuck in their own bubbles. It takes a big person to realize he or she may have been wrong, and then admit it publicly. (I recall a certain pro-Rubio guy who threatened to not pull the lever for Trump, then at the last minute, changed his mind – “and…felt good about it”. ) Shamefully, it is stubborn and foolish pride that fences pundits into know-it-all land, and threatens to isolate them even further from ordinary people who appreciate well crafted writing and reasoning.

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    • February 8, 2018 at 11:46 am
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  2. Coolidge

    I don’t know how VDH or anyone after knowing Trump’s life story and listening to his ridiculous pronouncements on the campaign could have guessed that he would put the kind of administration and conservative policies he has in place. I was wrong about that and I admit it but it doesn’t take a convoluted argument that Trump often gets in the way or has to be ignored or placated in order to get these great policies enacted. Many of those NeverTrumper elites as you call them, didn’t want a Jeb Bush. They wanted a conservative fighter who is a decent human being and who can form coherent sentences. Thank God for Pence and the generals or we’d get Trump’s half baked instincts and that’s all. I do give him credit for listening and pray that he listens more and talks far less.

    • #2
    • February 8, 2018 at 2:45 pm
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  3. Member

    I agree 100% with Julia. Mr. Hanson and Jonah Goldberg are far and away my favorite pundits, yet how VDH can indulge in ad hominums against those that refuse to capitulate and drink Trump’s Kool-Aid bothers me tremendously. We are not all pecksniffs swanning around cocktail parties with Kristol and Stephens – why doesn’t Hanson talk to Charlie Sykes or someone else from the heartland that believes as we do.

    Would Hanson want his daughter to marry someone with Trump’s ethics, his commitment to honesty, integrity and loyalty? Would he trust him to manage his children’s trust fund? Is he positive Trump’s conservative “principles” won’t go right out the window if the Dems take control of Congress?

    • #3
    • February 8, 2018 at 3:06 pm
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  4. Contributor

    Romney/Haley 2020 (View Comment):
    I agree 100% with Julia. Mr. Hanson and Jonah Goldberg are far and away my favorite pundits, yet how VDH can indulge in ad hominums against those that refuse to capitulate and drink Trump’s Kool-Aid bothers me tremendously.

    As I read this, and I appreciate your perspective (I had problems with Trump during the primaries and still cringe at certain tweets) my question is, ‘well, what does he want?’ (Also, what kool-aid?)

    In a somewhat related article, Dennis Prager just wrote “Religious Christians and Jews who support Trump understand that the character of a public leader is quite often less important than his policies. This is so obvious that only the naive think otherwise. Character is no predictor of political leadership on behalf of moral causes. I wish it were. Then, in any political contest, we would simply have to determine who the better person is and vote accordingly.”

    What the Right needed was a strong fighter who had the ability to break some well-entrenched dishes. We are far from being able to determine if Trump’s first term is successful, but I can’t imagine any of the other primary candidates (even the one I strongly supported) being as effective in achieving much of the conservative agenda. Not since I was in high school/college did we have a President who enacted free-market, conservative policies as we do now. Results matter.

    • #4
    • February 8, 2018 at 3:56 pm
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  5. Member

    Wonderful interview Dave, thanks for putting this together. I love listening to VDH talk about his farm life and his first person experiences with illegal immigrants – it makes the David Brooks and Bill Kristols of the world sound even more out of touch and foolish.

    • #5
    • February 8, 2018 at 4:05 pm
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  6. Coolidge

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):
    We are far from being able to determine if Trump’s first term is successful, but I can’t imagine any of the other primary candidates (even the one I strongly supported) being as effective in achieving much of the conservative agenda. Not since I was in high school/college did we have a President who enacted free-market, conservative policies as we do now. Results matter.

    I disagree. I believe that we would have had more conservative results with several of the GOP candidates and without all the cringe worthy antics.

    • #6
    • February 8, 2018 at 4:17 pm
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  7. Member

    Mr. Sussman, I fundamentally disagree that a Scott Walker or even a chastised Rubio could not have accomplished more, not less, than Trump has accomplished. Trump and America have been blessed that he has an affinity for military generals who stepped in when virtually every experienced bureaucrat refused to serve with him. We have also been blessed that the man would rather delegate and watch Fox and Friends while tweeting than mess up the process with more “exquisite leadership.”

    He is not a strong fighter, he is an incoherent, self-contradictory fighter. I still think it’s possible for us to drop the ball on DACA and immigration due to his tendency to agree with the last person that talked to him.

    I know I am too tendentious on this issue and have tried to dial back on my comments, but Hanson’s deliberate obfuscation of Trump’s lack of fitness while caricaturing Never Trumpers as Margaret Dumont gasping “well I never…” at Trump’s insouciant anti-PC Groucho just really irritated me.

    • #7
    • February 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm
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  8. Inactive

    Phenomenal interview Dave. VDH is a national treasure.

    • #8
    • February 8, 2018 at 4:26 pm
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  9. Inactive

    Scott Wilmot (View Comment):
    Wonderful interview Dave, thanks for putting this together. I love listening to VDH talk about his farm life and his first person experiences with illegal immigrants – it makes the David Brooks and Bill Kristols of the world sound even more out of touch and foolish.

    Which is saying something since both guys(Kristol/Brooks) beclown themselves from dawn til dusk each day.

    • #9
    • February 8, 2018 at 4:51 pm
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  10. Inactive

    Great interview @davesussman. I love VDH not just for his critiques of the left & his military histories but because his politics and philosophy are so intertwined with people and landscape of the central valley and rural California. And damn if you didn’t end the podcast with a song I co-wrote. I jumped up from my chair and bashed my head on a bookshelf!

    • #10
    • February 8, 2018 at 7:22 pm
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    DavidCLowery (View Comment):
    Great interview @davesussman. I love VDH not just for his critiques of the left & his military histories but because his politics and philosophy are so intertwined with people and landscape of the central valley and rural California. And damn if you didn’t end the podcast with a song I co-wrote. I jumped up from my chair and bashed my head on a bookshelf!

    Wow! Yes you did! What a great song and band. It’s always fun to match music to the guest and California Country Boy was perfect for VDH. Congrats on all your success David!

    • #11
    • February 8, 2018 at 7:56 pm
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  12. Member

    Great interview Dave. I always enjoy VDH regardless of the topic discussed. Trump was my 17th choice, but when it came down to him or Hillary, it wasn’t difficult to vote for Trump. I agree with Mr. Hanson that Trump is flawed, but can still be a good president. I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how conservative his cabinet has become. His judicial nomination will make a lasting difference. He got a good tax cut and is pushing for immigration reform. Now if we could just get him and the other Republicans to stop spending money like drunken sailors.

    BTW, this has quickly become one of my favorite podcasts. I went to iTune and gave you a 5 star rating and a good review. Keep it up!

    • #12
    • February 9, 2018 at 2:05 pm
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    Adriana Harris (View Comment):
    BTW, this has quickly become one of my favorite podcasts. I went to iTune and gave you a 5 star rating and a good review. Keep it up!

    Thank you Adriana!

    • #13
    • February 9, 2018 at 4:35 pm
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  14. Member

    That was a great interview. I’m afraid that there are too many on the Right who want to be loved by the Left. Trump won the nomination by pointing out the bankruptcy of the Left and the GWB Rs on immigration and Islam. I’m tired of hearing fables about Islam from our elites.

    • #14
    • February 9, 2018 at 8:00 pm
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  15. Inactive

    This podcast will not render in Chrome, IE nor Edge. The same with the whiskeypolitics.net web site

    • #15
    • February 10, 2018 at 12:06 am
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    Derringdoo (View Comment):
    This podcast will not render in Chrome, IE nor Edge. The same with the whiskeypolitics.net web site

    Maybe your computer just doesn’t like me.

    • #16
    • February 10, 2018 at 11:17 am
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  17. Member

    “I can guarantee it…..guarantee it: full stop”

    • #17
    • February 11, 2018 at 4:59 am
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  18. Member

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):
    Character is no predictor of political leadership on behalf of moral causes. I wish it were. Then, in any political contest, we would simply have to determine who the better person is and vote accordingly.”

    • #18
    • February 11, 2018 at 5:41 am
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  19. Member

    VDH’s excellent analysis is marred by his insistence that only the “effete elite” can object to Trump’s antics. I’m more than happy to give the President credit when he deserves it, but I’m under no illusions that he’s playing 256-dimensional chess or that he’s the definitive model of an alpha male.

    • #19
    • February 11, 2018 at 11:40 am
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  20. Member

    Thanks. And thanks for the Trump critics here showing us again that no amount of calm reason and policy success can shake their disdain thus proving VDH’s points

    • #20
    • February 11, 2018 at 2:06 pm
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    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    VDH’s excellent analysis is marred by his insistence that only the “effete elite” can object to Trump’s antics. I’m more than happy to give the President credit when he deserves it, but I’m under no illusions that he’s playing 256-dimensional chess or that he’s the definitive model of an alpha male.

    Do you agree with VDH that some of Trump’s critics have not idea of the effect of mass illegal immigration on the lives of average Americans.

    • #21
    • February 11, 2018 at 9:04 pm
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  22. Contributor

    I listen to VDH every chance I get. He’s brilliant and a clear thinker (two attributes that don’t always go together). I also appreciated how he schedules his life, strangely enough: he does precisely what he loves to do and isn’t concerned with anyone else’s perspective. Thanks, Dave!

    • #22
    • February 14, 2018 at 1:12 pm
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