Postmodernism, weak men, gender equality, the pathological left, the Cathy Newman interview and a few questions from Ricochet members — Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, a clinical psychologist, and professor at the University of Toronto joins us at Whiskey Politics to discuss his new book 12 Rules For Life, An Antidote to Chaos which is currently bumping up against the number one Amazon bestseller, so let’s put him over the top – it IS a great book. Recommended mentioned lecture: Identity politics and the Marxist Lie of White Privilege.

Out Music: Friends in Safe Spaces. Chad Prather and Steve Mudflap McGrew

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There are 15 comments.

  1. Member

    Well hell. That was unexpected! I feel (almost) famous.

    Thanks Dave – great interview. If I get the chance tonight I’ll let him know my sister did get that raise!

    • #1
    • January 31, 2018 at 2:54 pm
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    Annefy (View Comment):
    Well hell. That was unexpected! I feel (almost) famous.

    Thanks Dave – great interview. If I get the chance tonight I’ll let him know my sister did get that raise!

    Ha! Enjoy his lecture. Wish I could make it down and see it.

    • #2
    • January 31, 2018 at 3:22 pm
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  3. Member

    Thank you, Dave. I hope that you can continue your conversation with Jordan Peterson before too long.

    • #3
    • January 31, 2018 at 6:17 pm
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  4. Member

    I confess, I hadn’t heard of Jordan Peterson until the organizer of the March 17 event, Saving California mentioned him, but oh my gosh, am I glad you interviewed him, Dave. The fact that young people flock to him, hungering for truth, and that they recognize it, is almost fantastic in its implications. I have to figure out how to leave his videos around for my kids to find by accident…

    • #4
    • January 31, 2018 at 6:18 pm
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  5. Member

    Ok, so I also clicked on Man Crates, and was really surprised at the huge variety of cool stuff they have. Between family, friends and business associates, there are birthdays, housewarming gifts, Father’s Day, Christmas, business gifts. Guys are hideous to go shopping for, and this is one ad I was really glad to hear.

    • #5
    • January 31, 2018 at 6:24 pm
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  6. Coolidge

    Is it just me, or did you catch him at diner time?

    Great interview. It was such a great point, that work does not speak for itself, and that you must be an advocate for your work. Its a point that seems deep until you realize its not. People take each other for granted, in our most intimate of relationships, why would work be any better?

    I think the real problem with unequal pay is envy. I make my deal with my employer that I get paid $X/hr of work. 4 shifts of 10.5 hours, switching between mornings, nights and evenings every 2 weeks. What my co-worker’s deal is, is none of my business, its between them. I think that different people bring different value equations to the workplace, and being compensated differently for these differences allows employment to flourish.

    • #6
    • January 31, 2018 at 9:53 pm
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  7. Member

    Was that Paul Desmond at the beginning?

    • #7
    • February 1, 2018 at 7:38 am
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    Is it just me, or did you catch him at diner time?

    Great interview. It was such a great point, that work does not speak for itself, and that you must be an advocate for your work. Its a point that seems deep until you realize its not. People take each other for granted, in our most intimate of relationships, why would work be any better?

    I think the real problem with unequal pay is envy. I make my deal with my employer that I get paid $X/hr of work. 4 shifts of 10.5 hours, switching between mornings, nights and evenings every 2 weeks. What my co-worker’s deal is, is none of my business, its between them. I think that different people bring different value equations to the workplace, and being compensated differently for these differences allows employment to flourish.

    Thanks. Agreed. We have to be our own advocates. He refers to every part of our lives, yes including our relationships. If we don’t stand up for what we want, who will? A little more backbone can solve a lot of our problems.

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    • February 1, 2018 at 8:32 am
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    thelonious (View Comment):
    Was that Paul Desmond at the beginning?

    Joel Goodman, Dirty Weekend.

    • #9
    • February 1, 2018 at 8:32 am
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    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):
    Is it just me, or did you catch him at diner time?

    Great interview. It was such a great point, that work does not speak for itself, and that you must be an advocate for your work. Its a point that seems deep until you realize its not. People take each other for granted, in our most intimate of relationships, why would work be any better?

    I think the real problem with unequal pay is envy. I make my deal with my employer that I get paid $X/hr of work. 4 shifts of 10.5 hours, switching between mornings, nights and evenings every 2 weeks. What my co-worker’s deal is, is none of my business, its between them. I think that different people bring different value equations to the workplace, and being compensated differently for these differences allows employment to flourish.

    Thanks. Agreed. We have to be our own advocates. He refers to every part of our lives, yes including our relationships. If we don’t stand up for what we want, who will? A little more backbone can solve a lot of our problems.

    I haven’t read JP’s new book yet. But I understand it’s one of the “lessons” – treat yourself like someone you care about. And of course that includes being your own advocate

    I have never seen someone command a room the way JP did last night. I was unprepared, even after seeing so many hours of his lectures and interviews. Two + hours of uninterrupted (except for applause) talking. He connects so easily you can’t describe it as a lecture. No notes and the occasional head tilt as you see him thinking and working something out

    If I took pics of the crowd you wouldn’t be able to guess what the event was. And everyone was very happy to be there and standing up straight.

    I would have taken every one of my kids had they been available – hopefully there will be future opportunities.

    If you have the chance to see JP, don’t miss it. He is so hopeful about the future if only everyone can get “their act together” – and that starts with establishing order in your own life.

    • #10
    • February 1, 2018 at 10:05 am
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  11. Member

    Ps – a ticket scalper could have cleaned up last night. There were a dozen plus young men wandering the crowd outside desperate for a ticket.

    • #11
    • February 1, 2018 at 10:08 am
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  12. Member

    Dave, thanks so much for that superb, superb introduction. It seems you recorded that separately and that Prof. Peterson didn’t hear it before you started and that is very appropriate.

    I love everything you said in that introduction: I thought I understood him pretty well but your summary was really spot on and excellent. He IS an exceptional asset that the world has now become aware of and I’m so grateful to him for his highly developed moral compass and intellectual firepower. We need him now more than ever.

    • #12
    • February 3, 2018 at 5:27 pm
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  13. Member

    Sorry to be so insistent on this (I brought it up in your request for questions) but I hope that more of you can watch the truly excellent interview that the professor has with the other genius in the room: Camille Paglia. So, just to entice a few more people into taking the time to watch this incredible interview, here it is again:

    Try and stay past the first 20 minutes or so — it’s really well worth it and you will learn a lot about what has been going on in the western intellectual circles over the last 50 years or so. Camille Paglia is a national treasure and Prof. Peterson is now aware of her, as a source of insight and testimony — she was there at the beginning of the progressive takeover of our cultural high ground. She has incredible powers of rationality and clarity on all of the issue of the day, but especially in academia where the deep illness of our society is kept alive in a petri dish and it prospers even against the sensibilities of our society. She knows very well, chapter and verse, where the bodies are buried and Jordan Peterson is combining his great brain with hers in a gestalt of reason and persuasion against the Marxists enemies in our western societies.

    • #13
    • February 3, 2018 at 5:36 pm
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):
    Dave, thanks so much for that superb, superb introduction. It seems you recorded that separately and that Prof. Peterson didn’t hear it before you started and that is very appropriate.

    I love everything you said in that introduction: I thought I understood him pretty well but your summary was really spot on and excellent. He IS an exceptional asset that the world has now become aware of and I’m so grateful to him for his highly developed moral compass and intellectual firepower. We need him now more than ever.

    Thank you Larry! Much appreciated and agreed.

    • #14
    • February 3, 2018 at 6:14 pm
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  15. Coolidge

    Ricochet Audio Network:Postmodernism, weak men, gender equality, the pathological left, the Cathy Newman interview and a few questions from Ricochet members — Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, a clinical psychologist, and professor at the University of Toronto joins us at Whiskey Politics to discuss his new book 12 Rules For Life, An Antidote to Chaos which is currently bumping up against the number one Amazon bestseller, so let’s put him over the top – it IS a great book. Recommended mentioned lecture: Identity politics and the Marxist Lie of White Privilege.

    Out Music: Friends in Safe Spaces. Chad Prather and Steve Mudflap McGrew

    This is a MUST LISTEN. Very informative

    • #15
    • February 9, 2018 at 2:10 am
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