Governor Gary Johnson (L), the 2012 and 2016 Presidential Candidate joins Dave to discuss many topics including how the Hillary Clinton campaign was reported to have spent $50 Million to keep him off ballots, the war on drugs, why he once said the Republican party is “dead” under Trump and his perspective now on the Trump Administration. Dave pushes back on his more isolationist philosophy and how he would handle the current situation with North Korea. We finish up with his thoughts on the proof that Democrats colluded with Russia and how Russian trolls impacted his campaign. While Johnson is not planning on another run, his current efforts are to end the two-party duopoly and he can be found at https://www.ouramericainitiative.com/.

Dave also has a discussion with the CA Secretary of State candidate Mark Meuser who makes some startling claims about voter fraud; Secretaries of State around the country rebuffed the Trump Voter Integrity efforts by refusing to cleanup voter rolls, which in some cases show an almost 150% registration(!). In addition, Mark points to the overwhelming number of military ballots being disenfranchised and not counted. Check out Mark’s details at https://www.markmeuser.com/.

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There are 18 comments.

  1. Coolidge

    Where was that Gary Johnson last campaign!

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    • March 2, 2018 at 4:35 am
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  2. Thatcher

    Ricochet Audio Network: Mark points to the overwhelming number of military ballots being disenfranchised and not counted. Check out Mark’s details at https://www.markmeuser.com/.

    I surely hope this guy gets elected and helps clean up California, but I’m dubious as this state has been so crooked for so long he has quite a task ahead. The military ballots made me really furious. He needs to shout this from the rooftops. Thanks once again, Dave, for a great interview

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    • March 2, 2018 at 2:06 pm
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  3. Member

    Gary Johnson’s position on drugs….that everything goes….just denies the reality of what is happening on the ground with illegally smuggled opioids. His position on this issue alone is one reason why Libertarians will never occupy a major position in American politics.

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    • March 2, 2018 at 11:53 pm
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  4. Member

    Anyone that is interested in libertarian politics needs to listen to this. It’s depressing as hell if it’s actually true.

    • #4
    • March 3, 2018 at 2:41 am
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    Arnold Falk (View Comment):
    Gary Johnson’s position on drugs….that everything goes….just denies the reality of what is happening on the ground with illegally smuggled opioids. His position on this issue alone is one reason why Libertarians will never occupy a major position in American politics.

    There is no net gain from outlawing hard drugs. We have to figure out a way for the feds to sell them at cost to whoever wants to kill themselves.

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    • March 3, 2018 at 2:46 am
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  6. Contributor

    I replied to a friend who posted the interview in a FB group.

    I think there is some schizophrenia in the LP as some call for totally pulling our military overseas and becoming isolationist while there’s other more realistic thoughts like Johnsons who acknowledge the dangers we face.

    Either way, it’s not a consistent party platform that allows voters to feel confident in what they would get from a potential LP President.

    I didn’t want to hit him on his mistakes, we all know and he knows what they were in the campaign and it wouldn’t have been new news, but he really didn’t come across as someone who seriously wanted the office or who was capable of actually handling the day to day responsibilities of being the leader of the free world.

    I think he and we are better off with him smoking weed in Taos and riding his bike.

    Super nice guy and enjoyed the conversation.

    • #6
    • March 3, 2018 at 8:58 am
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  7. Member

    Personally I think the LP should use national elections as an opportunity for marketing as described in the podcast I posted. Then combine that with trying to capture local and House of Representatives elections.

    Libertarians took over the whole Crystal, Minnesota City council. I’ve heard those guys interviewed several times. Pretty interesting stuff. That’s the way the Democrat party in Minnesota operates. It’s pretty sophisticated. They always have apparatchiks and functionaries moving up and down in government that way.

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    • March 3, 2018 at 9:05 am
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Anyone that is interested in libertarian politics needs to listen to this. It’s depressing as hell if it’s actually true.

    Breaking: Politics is dirty. #shocked

    Haven’t listened to the whole thing but this guy ran for VP because he’s… a sales guy and photographer?

    McAfee appears to be quite crazy. I read a lot about him and the documentary Gringo show’s he’s not a “badass” but just a downright scary sociopath.

    IMO: A party who thinks he’s appropriate for any public office is not long for this earth. Maybe the problem with the LP isn’t the two-party duopoly, but the reality it’s made up of a large number of folks who have no business governing.

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    • March 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm
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    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Anyone that is interested in libertarian politics needs to listen to this. It’s depressing as hell if it’s actually true.

    Breaking: Politics is dirty. #shocked

    Haven’t listened to the whole thing but this guy ran for VP because he’s… a sales guy and photographer?

    McAfee appears to be quite crazy. I read a lot about him and the documentary Gringo show’s he’s not a “badass” but just a downright scary sociopath.

    IMO: A party who thinks he’s appropriate for any public office is not long for this earth. Maybe the problem with the LP isn’t the two-party duopoly, but the reality it’s made up of a large number of folks who have no business governing.

    Most of this stuff isn’t really my bag. I thought his marketing strategy made sense. IMO, other than that, the LP is a waste of time and resources on the national level.

    • #9
    • March 3, 2018 at 12:26 pm
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  10. Member

    The Republican Liberty Caucus seems a lot more constructive than the LP right now, especially from a top-down perspective. They also have the full blessing of the RNC.

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    • March 3, 2018 at 2:39 pm
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  11. Coolidge

    If people want to see a real libertarian with a chance, here is Maxime Bernier of Canada who I recommend @davesussman you might want to get as a guest being interviewed by Mark Steyn.

    In the last Leadership race in Canada for the Federal Conservative party, Maxime got 49.8 percent of the vote and only losing on the last of our long ranked ballot.

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    • March 3, 2018 at 2:55 pm
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):
    Where was that Gary Johnson last campaign!

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):I didn’t want to hit him on his mistakes, we all know and he knows what they were in the campaign and it wouldn’t have been new news, but he really didn’t come across as someone who seriously wanted the office or who was capable of actually handling the day to day responsibilities of being the leader of the free world.

    I think he and we are better off with him smoking weed in Taos and riding his bike.

    Super nice guy and enjoyed the conversation.

    When I heard Gary Johnson speak at CPAC in 2016, I said out loud to my co-attendees that he was going to make it difficult for me NOT to vote (uselessly) for him as a 3d party candidate in the bilateral general election. Very impressive resume.

    Then, after he was named Libertarian Party candidate for President (on the same stage where the Libertarian Party permitted a whack job with a rubber boot on his head to stand) he stated his brilliant theory of religious freedom in America:

    If marriage is on the church’s menu, they must serve it to anyone who orders it.

    I thus lost all remaining inclination to vote for a third party candidate.

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):
    I think there is some schizophrenia in the LP as some call for totally pulling our military overseas and becoming isolationist while there’s other more realistic thoughts like Johnsons who acknowledge the dangers we face.

    I’ve not noticed much schizophrenia at CATO and Reason – they all seem pretty much like open borders pacifists. I used to call myself a staunch libertarian (small L). By CATO’s and Reason’s definition, I am not a libertarian.

    Dave Sussman (View Comment):

    Either way, it’s not a consistent party platform that allows voters to feel confident in what they would get from a potential LP President.

    In the summer of 1995, at the home of CATO Institute founder Ed Crane, I asked the then-chairman of the Libertarian Party if they would endorse Steve Forbes for President if he were to be the nominee of the Republican Party. Without hesitation the chairman said no, because the Libertarian Party always needed to define where the boundary lies. I was disappointed – perhaps I shouldn’t have been surprised – to learn that the Libertarian Party doesn’t want to make libertarianism part of mainstream politics.

    At one point I had high hopes that the ideologically libertarian South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford would be the Republican Party candidate for President. But he lost his mind even before Gary Johnson did.

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    • March 3, 2018 at 8:00 pm
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    CATO’s official position on identity politics (as it relates to immigrants) is that it has been good for the country. I quit paying attention at that point.

    • #13
    • March 4, 2018 at 12:50 am
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    Earth to Gary Johnson, Trump won some blue to purple states which no Republican has won for a while.

    My wife worked for the Illinois GOP for a couple of months in 2006 on voter fraud. She found that it was massive but quit because of Republican infighting. In addition, the state party wanted to embarrass the Democrats rather than take it seriously.

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    • March 4, 2018 at 1:35 pm
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    but quit because of Republican infighting. In addition, the state party wanted to embarrass the Democrats rather than take it seriously.

    I love this part. So many lessons.

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    • March 4, 2018 at 1:53 pm
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    LibertyDefender (View Comment):
    Then, after he was named Libertarian Party candidate for President he stated his brilliant theory of religious freedom in America:

    If marriage is on the church’s menu, they must serve it to anyone who orders it.

    I thus lost all remaining inclination to vote for a third party candidate.

    I didn’t hear that comment from him, but did hear him say ‘bake the cake’. That’s when he lost me. Living in New Mexico now, I thought voting for him might make a difference but I ended up voting for Trump. I would have liked to have heard a question how forcing people to bake a cake is a Libertarian position.

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    • March 4, 2018 at 9:20 pm
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Arnold Falk (View Comment):
    Gary Johnson’s position on drugs….that everything goes….just denies the reality of what is happening on the ground with illegally smuggled opioids. His position on this issue alone is one reason why Libertarians will never occupy a major position in American politics.

    There is no net gain from outlawing hard drugs. We have to figure out a way for the feds to sell them at cost to whoever wants to kill themselves.

    The problem of course with severe potheads and those hooked on opioids, cocaine and the rest is that they not only are hurting and eventually killing themselves. If they are family members, and worst yet if they are parents, they are seriously hurting others. If they operate a vehicle, they endanger the public. So, I disagree with you about “no net gain from outlawing hard drugs”. We need to come down especially hard on the dealers. And as for the wisdom of having the feds sell them, I would remind everyone that we here in Switzerland tried this until we came to our senses. It was a disaster.

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    • March 4, 2018 at 10:12 pm
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    Arnold Falk (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Arnold Falk (View Comment):
    Gary Johnson’s position on drugs….that everything goes….just denies the reality of what is happening on the ground with illegally smuggled opioids. His position on this issue alone is one reason why Libertarians will never occupy a major position in American politics.

    There is no net gain from outlawing hard drugs. We have to figure out a way for the feds to sell them at cost to whoever wants to kill themselves.

    The problem of course with severe potheads and those hooked on opioids, cocaine and the rest is that they not only are hurting and eventually killing themselves. If they are family members, and worst yet if they are parents, they are seriously hurting others. If they operate a vehicle, they endanger the public. So, I disagree with you about “no net gain from outlawing hard drugs”. We need to come down especially hard on the dealers. And as for the wisdom of having the feds sell them, I would remind everyone that we here in Switzerland tried this until we came to our senses. It was a disaster.

    I can’t imagine how we are going to improve the dynamics of outlawing hard drugs, that’s all. The cartels compound power by the minute. We spend all of this tax money and it just makes everything worse.

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    • March 5, 2018 at 12:54 am
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