The Mother Country’s most dangerous podcast is back, once again with our good friend Toby Young. This week, are politics really the art of the possible and the view of the shutdown from across the pond. Also, decoding EROEI, the case against fat people, the Breaking Bad finale, Homeland, Walking Dead, and the endless search for libertarian TV shows.

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  1. Profile photo of kiwikit Inactive

    Low carb is the only way to avoid joining the obesity crowd! I got it off 20 years ago and have kept it off ever since. Not only do I keep myself in a relatively small size (2) but my blood work shows I’ll not get any of the sugar-laden diseases. For your own health, dump sugar and starch! And never be hungry again.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 3:27 am
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    I haven’t watched this last season of Breaking Bad, will this podcast spoil it for me? The answers yes, ain’t it? I knew it. Dang, I sure do like my Delingpole podcasts.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 5:26 am
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    Sheesh. One thing both Left and Right can agree on is bashing ‘fat people’. It’s just like bashing smokers- it’s done out of concern for smokers. Right. Personally I think a lot of it is bitter envy (not just latent nanny-ness). How dare them be fat and enjoy life! They should feel rotten about it.Or, is this podcast defending them, perhaps saying it’s time to leave them alone and mind our own business or maybe just making fun of them? I think the whole thing is very weird either way, actually.I’ll skip this one, darn it.
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    • October 19, 2013 at 6:07 am
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    I am too scared to listen.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 6:19 am
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    Indaba: I am too scared to listen. · 1 minute ago

    Don’t be. It’s actually a hilarious show. 

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    • October 19, 2013 at 6:21 am
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    Gents: Enjoyable podcast as always. I wish you the best in your endeavor to “unite the Right” in Britain, and do give us synopsis from time to time on how that effort is progressing.

    I think the most interesting moment of the podcast this week–and yes it contains some spoilers, so watch the final season of Breaking Bad if you haven’t–was Toby’s observation around 24min in about the crisis of “masculinity”, modern marriage, and White’s rationalizing of his choices. 

    Toby asks:

    “Can you be a good husband in a modern marriage, given how much emasculation–for want of a better word–is involved in playing that role, and given how that role has been re-negotiated in the past 25 years; can you be the kind of husband that you are expected to be by modern, educated women like Skyler, and still be a man? And the answer Breaking Bad, I think, gave us is ‘no you can’t’. And if you want to be a man, you have to do things that are unacceptable, that are going to break the rules of the modern marriage contract.”

    Ricochet: is he right?

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    • October 19, 2013 at 8:16 am
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    @severely ltd Yes, there are Breaking Bad spoilers in this show.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 8:32 am
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    Hey Guys: What an entertaining podcast! Tob’s, very good riff on Breaking Bad! I thought the last episode was the best one hour of television I’ve ever seen, ever. How do you get better than Jesse Pinkman screaming in relief!

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    • October 19, 2013 at 9:40 am
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  9. Profile photo of Peter Meza Member
    kiwikit: Low carb is the only way to avoid joining the obesity crowd! I got it off 20 years ago and have kept it off ever since. Not only do I keep myself in a relatively small size (2) but my blood work shows I’ll not get any of the sugar-laden diseases. For your own health, dump sugar and starch! And never be hungry again. · 5 hours ago

    You should do a whole post on this with some of the details.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 10:11 am
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    Could someone link to the Spectator article on “lard a**es” that James cites in the podcast?

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    • October 19, 2013 at 10:23 am
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  11. Profile photo of Peter Meza Member

    EROEI:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_returned_on_energy_invested

    I couldn’t find a graph that shows the golden era of EROEI, which presumably was in the “drink your milkshake” era of oil production wherein you just had to stick a straw in the ground and the oil would come gushing out. But in this wikipedia article, it seems like right now the only two “good” sources of energy are hydro and coal!

    The “Life After Growth” book presumably makes the connection between the economy and surplus energy (the EROEI ratio), which is a scary concept if EROEI overall is actually going down at the moment and is going to continue to go down. What it would mean is that no matter how good your pro-growth policies are, there is going to be an upper limit based on where we are on the EROEI graph.

    Do we have to start advocate more for hydro and coal energy? Don’t know what to think about alternative energy solutions as the technology doesn’t seem to be anywhere close to helping with this problem. Seems like solar et al have a long way to go on the EROEI chart.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 10:26 am
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    The walking dead are the GOP leadership. So detached from their base, they smear their unwanted slime across the grassroots, lacking the brains sufficient to realize that they are already dead. And they killed their own party, without any help from their supposedly “too-far-right”-wing. They will never get another dime from the TEA Party supporting, middle-class, conservative voters, unless they remedy their infected, proggy squishiness, and stop equating “compromise” with bending over. Cruz is the cure.

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    • October 19, 2013 at 10:59 am
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    An alternative view as to whether we are doomed or not: “Peak Oil and ERoEI: Still Nonsense” http://onforb.es/rESRra  via @forbes

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    • October 19, 2013 at 11:13 am
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    When is the last time anyone heard of someone beating his wife and kids in a sugar-fueled rage after eating a double-brownie a la mode sundae?

    Or driving the wrong way up an off ramp and causing a horrific multi-fatality accident as a result of eating a whole deep dish pizza?

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    • October 20, 2013 at 1:23 am
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    I love this podcast, but I hope Delingpole calls me in late November and asks, “What did the TEA Party do to the RPV? How did they turn Virginia blue?”

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    • October 20, 2013 at 2:32 am
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    Peter Meza
    kiwikit: Low carb is the only way to avoid joining the obesity crowd! I got it off 20 years ago and have kept it off ever since. Not only do I keep myself in a relatively small size (2) but my blood work shows I’ll not get any of the sugar-laden diseases. For your own health, dump sugar and starch! And never be hungry again. · 5 hours ago

    You should do a whole post on this with some of the details. · 5 hours ago

    Yeah.

    I’m losing lots of weight (close to 40 lbs in 6 weeks) but haven’t figured how to manage it when I’m all the way down. How have you allowed a few carbs in without letting them re-establish control again?

    Please don’t tell me I can never have a slice of apple pie–or even a plain apple–again.

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    • October 20, 2013 at 4:15 am
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    A Delingpole classic. “Rack it”, as Jim Rome would say. Yes, I opened this podcast and without even letting it air out, drank right from the bottle. Fruity, nutty, with touches of lard, gun smoke, and meth. Brilliant.

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    • October 21, 2013 at 8:40 am
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    James: we may not be doomed after all. Please consider this response from my friend Dale Halling before you do anything drastic: “If you ignore inflation the cost of energy has been decreasing, not increasing. This means that it takes less energy to extract energy than any other time in history. A libertarian (anarchist) book that makes this point is The Rational Optimist.”

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    • October 21, 2013 at 10:02 am
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    James,

    I was dismayed that it took 7.5 minutes of “fat rant” before you mentioned that the issue is the NHS makes you pay for it. Other people’s waistlines are an issue to you only when you pay for it. Remove the burden of NHS and people are free to live and let live (or die early as the case may be).

    You, my friend, need another extended holiday away from the nanny state.

    Chris

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    • October 23, 2013 at 5:31 am
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    Peter Meza: EROEI:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_returned_on_energy_invested

    But in this wikipedia article, it seems like right now the only two “good” sources of energy are hydro and coal!

    Do we have to start advocate more for hydro and coal energy? Don’t know what to think about alternative energy solutions as the technology doesn’t seem to be anywhere close to helping with this problem. Seems like solar et al have a long way to go on the EROEI chart. · October 19, 2013 at 10:26am

    Thanks for this link. My thought during the podcast, and unaddressed by the chart as the numbers are “for US” was “what about the French nuclear experience”? Isn’t the majority of French power still coming from nuclear reactors? If so, isn’t that a relatively cheap, expandable energy source?

    To your point about coal, isn’t this drop in available energy more about an unwillingness to work with what we have? Scrubbers have not made US coal power magically clean (what little is left of it), but to suggest that we are/were living in a soot covered hell mitigated by the brave O administration is a big stretch.

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    • October 23, 2013 at 5:43 am
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    Chris

    To your point about coal, isn’t this drop in available energy more about an unwillingness to work with what we have? Scrubbers have not made US coal power magically clean (what little is left of it), but to suggest that we are/were living in a soot covered hell mitigated by the brave O administration is a big stretch. · 3 hours ago

    A friend of mine is working with a company here in Colorado Springs that does have a solution for scrubbing coal plants:

    http://www.neumannsystemsgroup.com/

    Yes, I’d love to see us work with coal not only to burn it but to turn it into liquid fuels and there are probably a number of other industrial uses for it as well.

    Also, hydro power is almost 100% EROEI, but of course there are all kinds of problems and pushback with that.

    Apparently nuclear can get as high as about 60% EROEI, but that is not as good as coal or hydro.

    I think that alternative fuels will improve over time from the current approximately zero percent EROEI, but a lot of these technologies, like solar for example, have built-in upper limits.

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    • October 23, 2013 at 9:25 am
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    Nice use of the stone as a unit of measure, there, James and Tobes. 

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    I’m a bit perplexed about the boys’ analysis of Breaking Bad. The analysis doesn’t hold up at all when you consider that Walt’s actions directly lead to Hank’s death.

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    • November 7, 2013 at 9:44 am
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