Fourteen days after the riots at the U.S. Capitol, Joe Biden took the oath of office on the same grounds that became a scene of mayhem and violence, including the deaths of five people.

Jay and Seth discuss the inauguration, what it means in U.S. political culture and the work that will come next for Biden and members of Congress. They also discuss the press’s role and how they have a reputation to live up to despite the friendlier confines of a Democratic administration.

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  1. kedavis Member
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    Objection: Five people did not die “on those grounds.”

    As far as I’ve heard, only one actually died “on those grounds”: The woman who was shot by Capitol/DC/Whatever Police.

    Three others died later, of medical issues, and there was one suicide.

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  2. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Please, do not beat us over the head with the “new administration”. They are evil, and we all have big targets painted on our backs now.

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  3. Cow Girl Thatcher
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    You keep saying “a normal president” or back to “normal” because you objected to Trump’s way of doing things. You remain oblivious to the reason Trump was elected: He recognized that the “normal” way of doing it in D.C. was wrong. The people who elected him were looking forward to DIFFERENT. And, Twitter is not the whole world. You just don’t understand, still.

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  4. Tyrion Lannister Member
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    I haven’t listened to the podcast, but the description caught my eye: “They also discuss the press’s role and how they have a reputation to live up to despite the friendlier confines of a Democratic administration.”

    I laughed. Pretty sure the “enemy of the people” are the least admired people in the country. They have no reputation left worth living up to. The dominant liberal establishment mass media (DLEMM) is just another mouthpiece for Democrats and communists (but I repeat myself).

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  5. Tyrion Lannister Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Objection: Five people did not die “on those grounds.”

    As far as I’ve heard, only one actually died “on those grounds”: The woman who was shot by Capitol/DC/Whatever Police.

    Three others died later, of medical issues, and there was one suicide.

    Was the police officer that died a suicide? I thought that he died later of complications of his injuries or something?

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  6. kedavis Member
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    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Objection: Five people did not die “on those grounds.”

    As far as I’ve heard, only one actually died “on those grounds”: The woman who was shot by Capitol/DC/Whatever Police.

    Three others died later, of medical issues, and there was one suicide.

    Was the police officer that died a suicide? I thought that he died later of complications of his injuries or something?

    That was a different one. There was definitely one police suicide.

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  7. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):

    I haven’t listened to the podcast, but the description caught my eye: “They also discuss the press’s role and how they have a reputation to live up to despite the friendlier confines of a Democratic administration.”

    I laughed. Pretty sure the “enemy of the people” are the least admired people in the country. They have no reputation left worth living up to. The dominant liberal establishment mass media (DLEMM) is just another mouthpiece for Democrats and communists (but I repeat myself).

    Not going to have people spit in my face. Not going to give even a download indication of approval. Not surprised in the least if the usual suspects peddle the usual conservative lines.

    I’m Not Leaving the Republican Party: It will take a long time to clean up after Donald Trump, but the GOP is still best suited to lead the country. OCTOBER 18, 2018 Jay Caruso

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  8. drlorentz Member
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    Ricochet Audio Network: Fourteen days after the riots at the U.S. Capitol

    The term of art is “mostly peaceful protest.” Real journalists would know that. 

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  9. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):

    I haven’t listened to the podcast, but the description caught my eye: “They also discuss the press’s role and how they have a reputation to live up to despite the friendlier confines of a Democratic administration.”

    I laughed. Pretty sure the “enemy of the people” are the least admired people in the country. They have no reputation left worth living up to. The dominant liberal establishment mass media (DLEMM) is just another mouthpiece for Democrats and communists (but I repeat myself).

    Not going to have people spit in my face. Not going to give even a download indication of approval. Not surprised in the least if the usual suspects peddle the usual conservative lines.

    I’m Not Leaving the Republican Party: It will take a long time to clean up after Donald Trump, but the GOP is still best suited to lead the country. OCTOBER 18, 2018 Jay Caruso

    Is that good or bad?

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  10. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Objection: Five people did not die “on those grounds.”

    As far as I’ve heard, only one actually died “on those grounds”: The woman who was shot by Capitol/DC/Whatever Police.

    Three others died later, of medical issues, and there was one suicide.

    Was the police officer that died a suicide? I thought that he died later of complications of his injuries or something?

    I haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but Brian Sicknick was a police officer who died after collapsing at the Capitol during the riot. It is very unclear as to what caused him to die. 

    The NY Times in its knee jerk fashion reported that he had been hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, though no one can confirm this. (A fire extinguisher was thrown at and did hit an officer in the head per part of the riot on video, which is horrible, but no one knows if the officer in question was Sicknick at this point, so that should never have been reported as the cause of his injury.) Other outlets that seem to want to downplay the officer’s death have said he suffered a stroke, but that is equally unconfirmed so about as good as the NY Times, which is birdcage liner.

    Sicknick’s family issued this statement: “Many details regarding Wednesday’s events and the direct causes of Brian’s injuries remain unknown and our family asks the public and the press to respect our wishes in not making Brian’s passing a political issue. Please honor Brian’s life and service and respect our privacy while we move forward in doing the same. Brian is a hero and that is what we would like people to remember. Thank you.”

    Regardless, I don’t think it takes much of a leap to say that the events at the Capitol contributed to his death, so violent protestors are culpable at least in part for his death.

    If he had been transported after collapsing while defending a federal building in Portland or Seattle from violent protestors, I would say the exact same thing.

    He was only 42.

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