Michael Shermer (Skeptic Magazine, Science Salon Podcast, Scientific American) dropped by before quarantine went into effect to discuss skepticism, religion, debunking conspiracy theories, scientific attempts to achieve immortality, and why “I don’t know” are the three most powerful words you can utter. He and Bridget cover everything from why neither one of them would want to live forever, to why Heaven sounds really boring, how liberals used to be the defenders of free speech and when it all changed, pluralistic ignorance, censorship, hate speech, thought crimes, and why open debate is the only way to find out what’s actually true. Don’t miss Michael’s new book Giving the Devil His Due, available now!

Full transcript available here: WiW74-MichaelShermer-Transcript

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  1. TerryS Member

    Living forever in bliss with Christ doesn’t sound boring to me. Schermer seems to have a child’s vision of the afterlife. What I was taught is that God is the source of all that is good, every good thing we experience had its origin in god. Boredom is not a good thing, so you will not find it in Heaven. North Korea is not good, so you will finding nothing like North Korea in heaven. Christians often say that we will find our rest in God, and by “rest” they mean the place we were meant to be in.

    “Eternity” does not mean “a really long time.” It means all time. Eternity contains time the way a riverbed contains a river. It is not the river.

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    • April 9, 2020, at 5:36 PM PDT
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  2. TerryS Member

    Very sorry to hear that you are under the weather, Ms. Phetasy. Get well. Your interview style & choice of guests is always interesting.

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    • April 9, 2020, at 8:05 PM PDT
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  3. Hank Rhody, Badgeless Bandito Contributor

    Skeptics. The bit about global warming is telling. He repeats the 97% line without knowing where it comes from, having never bothered to check whether it’s true or not. You know Rober McNamera was an expert on the Vietnam war. For the record, my distrust in the whole global warming edifice is based on my investigation of the science. 

    I haven’t gone back and made a list, but a couple non-falsifiable beliefs that Mr. Shermer expressed on the podcast:

    • That the Drake equation means anything at all
    • That moral progress has a natural direction
    • That morality is socially constructed.
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    • April 11, 2020, at 8:14 PM PDT
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  4. Architectus Coolidge

    Hank Rhody, Badgeless Bandito (View Comment):
    Skeptics. The bit about global warming is telling. He repeats the 97% line without knowing where it comes from, having never bothered to check whether it’s true or not. You know Robert McNamara was an expert on the Vietnam war.

    Agreed. I heard a lot of typical leftism, not much skepticism, and a whole lot of projection going on. Too much to detail here, but Mr. Shermer seems highly susceptible to going with the pack he finds himself in at the time, and adopting the beliefs, while finding ways to justify them according to his current philosophy. As others do, he mistakes consensus as having a role in science, as if we ought to use polls to determine truth. On a positive note, he seems willing to keep learning, questioning and thinking about things, and that’s all we can hope for ourselves, also.

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    • April 13, 2020, at 7:41 AM PDT
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