Members have made 17 comments.

  1. Profile photo of James Gawron Thatcher

    Andrew Baby,

    This Trump guy just doesn’t seem to understand how dangerous the Russians really are. Well, not like our previous President. Sure Obama was rubbing shoulders with Medvedev and literally giving him a quid pro quo high sign. Didn’t mean a thing.

    Hey Andrew Baby, watch me pull evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians out of my hat.

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #1
    • July 20, 2017 at 3:45 pm
    • LikeLike
  2. Profile photo of Guruforhire Member

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner.27s_dilemma

    • #2
    • July 20, 2017 at 3:57 pm
    • LikeLike
  3. Profile photo of James Gawron Thatcher

    Guruforhire (View Comment):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner.27s_dilemma

    Guru,

    Gosh, you mean I’ve got to learn all of game theory and in particular the prisoner’s dilemma to really understand all this. Luckily I attended:

    WOSSAMOTTA U.

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #3
    • July 20, 2017 at 4:07 pm
    • LikeLike
  4. Profile photo of Guruforhire Member

    I will tell you what trump can do.

    He needs to give Kyle Chapman a full pardon and a presidential medal of freedom.

    That will get the point across that the nations tolerance of masked hoodlums attacking the women and elderly is coming to an end, especially when the violent mobs are operating with the tacit support of city government (you hear me berkeley, chicago, and cleveland)

    Was it the occupy movement or the antiwar movement that pushed someone in a wheelchair down a flight of stairs?

    The guy who worked for me in a boring room in the basement of the pentagon way back when the Iraq war started got roughed up by an antiwar person, and got his limp in combat in vietnam with the marines, the antiwar person ended up with a broke nose.

    This stuff has been spiraling out of control for 15 years.

    • #4
    • July 20, 2017 at 4:13 pm
    • Like1 like
  5. Profile photo of James Gawron Thatcher

    Guru,

    Sorry to be so flippant today. Maybe I needed a little comic relief. Mr. Klavan delivers that so I just rolled with it.

    Maybe we need to redefine the old DEFCON scale.

    DEFCON 1 – mildly amused but not going to take it seriously. will make a joke out of it.

    DEFCON 2 – annoyed enough to make a sharp comment but not act.

    DEFCON 3 – seriously annoyed enough to write a post about it.

    DEFCON 4 – completely pissed off, will donate money to the right organization, will find the right candidate to vote for or to vote against.

    DEFCON 5 – will take full precautions such as gaining a concealed carry permit and get NRA Carry Guard.

    I consider punching a complete a@#hole in the nose to be a public service and not something that requires any special categorization.

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #5
    • July 20, 2017 at 5:35 pm
    • LikeLike
  6. Profile photo of OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Cultural appropriation is great!

    I’ve been thinking of the American Melting Pot as a cultural distillery. It brings in people from all over the world – appropriates the best aspects of their cultures – Cuisine, Art and languages – and then burns off the failures. So that America builds a distilled culture with the best aspects of each ingredient culture. … Maybe jet air travel has killed the Melting Pot, because new immigrants have less incentive to succeed in their new country – if they cant cut it – they hop on plane, and in less than a day they can be back where they started. Not like the immigrants who came over on steamships, who took weeks, and spent their life savings – they where all (metaphorically) Cortez. They had no option but to succeed, to integrate.

    • #6
    • July 20, 2017 at 9:02 pm
    • LikeLike
  7. Profile photo of Sharon Aberle Coolidge

    I love listening to Andrew Klavan, and I feel like he has a really sane view on President Trump. I may not always agree, but I appreciate the honesty, intuition and humor. Andrew, if you are listening, I think you would be interested in this recent Sam Harris interview with Scott Adams, where Scott brilliantly defends and supports President Trump. It is a bit long, but the perspective is unique and refreshingly optimistic.

    https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/triggered

    • #7
    • July 21, 2017 at 6:47 am
    • LikeLike
  8. Profile photo of Henry Racette Member

    I’ve appreciated that Andrew does not want to sink to the level of the left, and in particular does not want to restrict the freedom of expression of those with whom we disagree. I applaud that, and I entirely agree.

    In today’s show, John Nolte seemed to be making the alternate case, which we often hear expressed as giving the left a taste of its own medicine. I’m glad Andrew stood his ground. I don’t want to adopt their tactics.

    Mr. Nolte made an interesting observation during the show. Using the example of Ben Shapiro, Nolte pointed out that speech suppress is actually beneficial for Shapiro in a way, in that it called attention to the left’s tactics and Shapiro’s message. But Nolte didn’t seem to realize that this is a product of the contrast between the left and the right and how we approach speech: if both sides begin preventing free expression, then there’s no moral victory in being the one standing up to the anti-Constitutional bully. Because we’ll all be bullies.

    Andrew should continue to stand firm.

    • #8
    • July 21, 2017 at 10:42 am
    • Like1 like
  9. Profile photo of outlaws6688 Coolidge

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    In today’s show, John Nolte seemed to be making the alternate case, which we often hear expressed as giving the left a taste of its own medicine. I’m glad Andrew stood his ground. I don’t want to adopt their tactics.

    Just take it!

    • #9
    • July 22, 2017 at 9:06 pm
    • LikeLike
  10. Profile photo of Henry Racette Member

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    In today’s show, John Nolte seemed to be making the alternate case, which we often hear expressed as giving the left a taste of its own medicine. I’m glad Andrew stood his ground. I don’t want to adopt their tactics.

    Just take it!

    I’m going to guess that you mean “just take the medicine the left is dishing us,” and that you mean it in a derisive way.

    The way I see it, the left’s goal is to degrade the idea of free speech until no one holds it sacred anymore. And the best way to fight that is to continue to hold it sacred. The worst way to fight it is to join in and demonstrate that we don’t hold it sacred.

    So I’ll keep standing for free speech, and won’t compromise that freedom simply to prove a point.

    • #10
    • July 23, 2017 at 11:05 am
    • LikeLike
  11. Profile photo of outlaws6688 Coolidge

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    In today’s show, John Nolte seemed to be making the alternate case, which we often hear expressed as giving the left a taste of its own medicine. I’m glad Andrew stood his ground. I don’t want to adopt their tactics.

    Just take it!

    I’m going to guess that you mean “just take the medicine the left is dishing us,” and that you mean it in a derisive way.

    The way I see it, the left’s goal is to degrade the idea of free speech until no one holds it sacred anymore. And the best way to fight that is to continue to hold it sacred. The worst way to fight it is to join in and demonstrate that we don’t hold it sacred.

    So I’ll keep standing for free speech, and won’t compromise that freedom simply to prove a point.

    Fighting back does not necessarily mean degrading free speech. People that fight back do not necessarily want to limit free speech of their opponents. They want to show the left’s hypocrisy and win the argument. Nice Strawman. Conservatives are great at losing to the left and just taking it. Many no longer want to be apart of the surrender monkey caucus. I don’t blame them.

    • #11
    • July 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm
    • LikeLike
  12. Profile photo of Henry Racette Member

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    In today’s show, John Nolte seemed to be making the alternate case, which we often hear expressed as giving the left a taste of its own medicine. I’m glad Andrew stood his ground. I don’t want to adopt their tactics.

    Just take it!

    I’m going to guess that you mean “just take the medicine the left is dishing us,” and that you mean it in a derisive way.

    The way I see it, the left’s goal is to degrade the idea of free speech until no one holds it sacred anymore. And the best way to fight that is to continue to hold it sacred. The worst way to fight it is to join in and demonstrate that we don’t hold it sacred.

    So I’ll keep standing for free speech, and won’t compromise that freedom simply to prove a point.

    Fighting back does not necessarily mean degrading free speech. People that fight back do not necessarily want to limit free speech of their opponents. They want to show the left’s hypocrisy and win the argument. Nice Strawman. Conservatives are great at losing to the left and just taking it. Many no longer want to be apart of the surrender monkey caucus. I don’t blame them.

    That’s a misuse of the term “strawman.” There’s no logical fallacy in saying that we don’t want to violate free speech rights in our protest against the violation of free speech rights.

    There’s also not anything hypocritical in denying someone their free speech rights in an effort to show them how wrong it is to do that. (In case that wasn’t clear, that’s a claim in favor of what I think is your side, not mine.) It isn’t hypocritical, because the goal isn’t to suppress the expression of an idea, but rather to punish someone else for violating the rights of others.

    It isn’t hypocritical, but I still think it’s foolish, because denying the left freedom of speech as some kind of maneuver is going to fail for two reasons.

    First, it assumes the left is going to see the error in its ways. That’s not going to happen: the left doesn’t willingly back down or surrender ground, ever. It ratchets upwards, always.

    Secondly, as soon as the left can say “the right also suppresses free speech,” and make that a plausible claim, we’ve lost the moral high ground in the eyes of most people. And that’s squandering our greatest asset — the fact that we’re right.

    People who think that the battleground is the college lecture hall or the public play are mistaken. It’s the dinner table, the television set, the bar, the PTA meeting, the workplace — everywhere normal people talk about what’s happening. And more speech, not less, is what we need.

    • #12
    • July 23, 2017 at 2:26 pm
    • LikeLike
  13. Profile photo of outlaws6688 Coolidge

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    In today’s show, John Nolte seemed to be making the alternate case, which we often hear expressed as giving the left a taste of its own medicine. I’m glad Andrew stood his ground. I don’t want to adopt their tactics.

    Just take it!

    Fighting back does not necessarily mean degrading free speech. People that fight back do not necessarily want to limit free speech of their opponents. They want to show the left’s hypocrisy and win the argument. Nice Strawman. Conservatives are great at losing to the left and just taking it. Many no longer want to be apart of the surrender monkey caucus. I don’t blame them.

    That’s a misuse of the term “strawman.” There’s no logical fallacy in saying that we don’t want to violate free speech rights in our protest against the violation of free speech rights.

    There’s also not anything hypocritical in denying someone their free speech rights in an effort to show them how wrong it is to do that. (In case that wasn’t clear, that’s a claim in favor of what I think is your side, not mine.) It isn’t hypocritical, because the goal isn’t to suppress the expression of an idea, but rather to punish someone else for violating the rights of others.

    It isn’t hypocritical, but I still think it’s foolish, because denying the left freedom of speech as some kind of maneuver is going to fail for two reasons.

    First, it assumes the left is going to see the error in its ways. That’s not going to happen: the left doesn’t willingly back down or surrender ground, ever. It ratchets upwards, always.

    Secondly, as soon as the left can say “the right also suppresses free speech,” and make that a plausible claim, we’ve lost the moral high ground in the eyes of most people. And that’s squandering our greatest asset — the fact that we’re right.

    People who think that the battleground is the college lecture hall or the public play are mistaken. It’s the dinner table, the television set, the bar, the PTA meeting, the workplace — everywhere normal people talk about what’s happening. And more speech, not less, is what we need.

    Again, not everyone wants to punish someone. If the left makes a statement, it is fair game to tear that statement apart. That is not punishing, that is making your own free speech statement and stating what you believe. If the left protests Conservative speakers, it is fair game to raise a stink about it. Also, the battleground is everywhere and that you don’t recognize that plays right into the left’s hands. The fewer that hold your view the better. The right might actually achieve something.

    • #13
    • July 23, 2017 at 2:32 pm
    • LikeLike
  14. Profile photo of Henry Racette Member

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Again, not everyone wants to punish someone. If the left makes a statement, it is fair game to tear that statement apart. That is not punishing, that is making your own free speech statement and stating what you believe. If the left protests Conservative speakers, it is fair game to raise a stink about it. Also, the battleground is everywhere and that you don’t recognize that plays right into the left’s hands. The fewer that hold your view the better. The right might actually achieve something.

    Just so I understand (because there are a lot of paper tigers out there who talk tough but don’t mean what it sounds like they might mean), are you saying that, yes, it’s okay if we on the right prevent folks on the left from expressing themselves if other folks on the left sometimes prevent other folks on the right from expressing themselves? Is that what you’re saying?

    • #14
    • July 23, 2017 at 2:35 pm
    • LikeLike
  15. Profile photo of outlaws6688 Coolidge

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Again, not everyone wants to punish someone. If the left makes a statement, it is fair game to tear that statement apart. That is not punishing, that is making your own free speech statement and stating what you believe. If the left protests Conservative speakers, it is fair game to raise a stink about it. Also, the battleground is everywhere and that you don’t recognize that plays right into the left’s hands. The fewer that hold your view the better. The right might actually achieve something.

    Just so I understand (because there are a lot of paper tigers out there who talk tough but don’t mean what it sounds like they might mean), are you saying that, yes, it’s okay if we on the right prevent folks on the left from expressing themselves if other folks on the left sometimes prevent other folks on the right from expressing themselves? Is that what you’re saying?

    No I Am saying that it is ok to go after people that make outlandish statements and actions from the left. Going after them is free speech in itself.

    • #15
    • July 23, 2017 at 2:41 pm
    • LikeLike
  16. Profile photo of Henry Racette Member

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Again, not everyone wants to punish someone. If the left makes a statement, it is fair game to tear that statement apart. That is not punishing, that is making your own free speech statement and stating what you believe. If the left protests Conservative speakers, it is fair game to raise a stink about it. Also, the battleground is everywhere and that you don’t recognize that plays right into the left’s hands. The fewer that hold your view the better. The right might actually achieve something.

    Just so I understand (because there are a lot of paper tigers out there who talk tough but don’t mean what it sounds like they might mean), are you saying that, yes, it’s okay if we on the right prevent folks on the left from expressing themselves if other folks on the left sometimes prevent other folks on the right from expressing themselves? Is that what you’re saying?

    No I Am saying that it is ok to go after people that make outlandish statements and actions from the left. Going after them is free speech in itself.

    Ah. When you made your cryptic “Just take it!” comment, I tried to clarify what you meant. You didn’t mean that we should prevent people from speaking. You meant something else: perhaps that we should push back, stenuously, with our own speech.

    We agree. So does Klavan. So apparently no one here is calling for speech suppression, of the left or anyone else. And no one here is calling for “just taking it,” either. We’re all calling for vigorous pushback.

    Excellent.

    • #16
    • July 23, 2017 at 2:55 pm
    • LikeLike
  17. Profile photo of Andrew Klavan Podcaster

    Sharon Aberle (View Comment):
    I love listening to Andrew Klavan, and I feel like he has a really sane view on President Trump. I may not always agree, but I appreciate the honesty, intuition and humor. Andrew, if you are listening, I think you would be interested in this recent Sam Harris interview with Scott Adams, where Scott brilliantly defends and supports President Trump. It is a bit long, but the perspective is unique and refreshingly optimistic.

    https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/triggered

    Thanks, Sharon. I’ve heard good things about this and will try to listen. I enjoy Adams.

    • #17
    • July 23, 2017 at 6:52 pm
    • Like1 like