The second Game of Thrones episode has been controversially received, which is exactly why we need Delingpole and Young to break it down for us. Brianne and Jamie, Dany and Jon, Arya and the blacksmith dude — they all have to be explained. Also, who will survive the coming battle with the Army of The Dead? The hosts predict but make yours in the comments below.

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  1. Member

    After the two episodes of turgid build up, what are the odds that the third focuses entirely on events at Kings Landing?

    • #1
    • April 23, 2019, at 3:08 PM PDT
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  2. Member
    LC

    Mr Nick (View Comment):

    After the two episodes of turgid build up, what are the odds that the third focuses entirely on events at Kings Landing?

    The third episode (the Battle of Winterfell) has already been hyped for awhile now. There are two battle episodes in this last season. One of them, I assume this one, is going to be the longest battle for a movie or a tv show, eclipsing the Battle of Helm’s Deep.

    • #2
    • April 23, 2019, at 3:26 PM PDT
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    LC

    The only big points they made that I agree with are the crypts of Winterfell and Dany. Of course, it’s always amusing to hear Toby and James misremember things or characters or completely miss a bunch of points. The complaint about something as obvious as “the things we do for love” is hilarious. These two are always so bored by conversation episodes. I think this is the best episode in a while, since the Spoils of War episode from last season. And I’m sure it’ll be beaten by the third episode.

    Jaime has always been my favorite character and this is exactly what I wanted for him. And I think these are the themes that GRRM has always wanted for Jaime, but of course will never finish writing.

    Also, the complaints about Brienne, Ser, the knighting, and Tormund’s milk drinking. Talk about overthinking. I laughed so much during Tormund’s scene.

    • #3
    • April 23, 2019, at 4:01 PM PDT
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  4. Coolidge

    Jamie said “The things I do for love” when he shoved Bran out the window

    • #4
    • April 23, 2019, at 4:57 PM PDT
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  5. Member

    LC (View Comment):

    The only big points they made that I agree with are the crypts of Winterfell and Dany. Of course, it’s always amusing to hear Toby and James misremember things or characters or completely miss a bunch of points. The complaint about something as obvious as “the things we do for love” is hilarious. These two are always so bored by conversation episodes. I think this is the best episode in a while, since the Spoils of War episode from last season. And I’m sure it’ll be beaten by the third episode.

    Jaime has always been my favorite character and this is exactly what I wanted for him. And I think these are the themes that GRRM has always wanted for Jaime, but of course will never finish writing.

    Also, the complaints about Brienne, Ser, the knighting, and Tormund’s milk drinking. Talk about overthinking. I laughed so much during Tormund’s scene.

    I agree with you, LC. The whole “things we do for love” line is a reference back to what Jaime said when he pushed Bran out of the window, all the way back in Season 1 (Episode 1, I think).

    I was disappointed in their battle plan, and their apparent failure to plan ahead. I would think that using a combination of dragon-glass arrowheads and dragon fire would be an effective way of dealing with the army of the dead.

    The thing I’m not sure about is how the battle between the 2 living dragons and the 1 undead dragon will go. My guess is that dragons are immune to fire, so it will be difficult for them to hurt each other. Dragon-glass arrowheads against the undead dragon seems a good plan.

    • #5
    • April 23, 2019, at 5:32 PM PDT
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  6. Admin

    Ricochet Audio Network: Brianne and Jamie

    Spell the name right, chaps.

    • #6
    • April 23, 2019, at 5:45 PM PDT
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  7. Member

    Y’all are usually bereft of GoT knowledge, but not knowing “The things we do for love” reference or the name of Davos pretty much take the cake. Still a fun show even if I’ve enjoyed the first two episodes and you have not.

    • #7
    • April 23, 2019, at 6:52 PM PDT
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  8. Member
    LC

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    LC (View Comment):

    The only big points they made that I agree with are the crypts of Winterfell and Dany. Of course, it’s always amusing to hear Toby and James misremember things or characters or completely miss a bunch of points. The complaint about something as obvious as “the things we do for love” is hilarious. These two are always so bored by conversation episodes. I think this is the best episode in a while, since the Spoils of War episode from last season. And I’m sure it’ll be beaten by the third episode.

    Jaime has always been my favorite character and this is exactly what I wanted for him. And I think these are the themes that GRRM has always wanted for Jaime, but of course will never finish writing.

    Also, the complaints about Brienne, Ser, the knighting, and Tormund’s milk drinking. Talk about overthinking. I laughed so much during Tormund’s scene.

    I agree with you, LC. The whole “things we do for love” line is a reference back to what Jaime said when he pushed Bran out of the window, all the way back in Season 1 (Episode 1, I think).

    I was disappointed in their battle plan, and their apparent failure to plan ahead. I would think that using a combination of dragon-glass arrowheads and dragon fire would be an effective way of dealing with the army of the dead.

    The thing I’m not sure about is how the battle between the 2 living dragons and the 1 undead dragon will go. My guess is that dragons are immune to fire, so it will be difficult for them to hurt each other. Dragon-glass arrowheads against the undead dragon seems a good plan.

    It should be interesting with the dragons. Undead Viserion with White Walker magic negated the wall’s magic. So I’m excited to see where normal dragon magic meets ice dragon magic lead to. The only scene I wish they expanded on was the conversation between Tyrion and Bran, but I’m guessing/hoping that’s on purpose.

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    • April 23, 2019, at 8:22 PM PDT
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    LC

    bandreycak (View Comment):

    Y’all are usually bereft of GoT knowledge, but not knowing “The things we do for love” reference or the name of Davos pretty much take the cake. Still a fun show even if I’ve enjoyed the first two episodes and you have not.

    Ha I know! Sometimes, I think there’s no way James and Toby would forget this or miss this point, and yet they almost always do.

    It seems like James and Toby think we’re still in season 3 or 4 of GOT, where dramatic and shocking things happen every episode. We’re at the end of the story and some characters’ arcs need closure. Maybe it’s just me, but if you don’t recognize the significance of the Jaime and Brienne scenes this episode, I think you missed the point of their characters. Most of the reunion scenes were done well too.

    I can’t really tell how prepared Winterfell is until the battle happens, but I agree that their Bran Plan seems to be lacking substance. Though, I do think the Night King’s desire and the 3-eyed Raven’s purpose have been hinted at for a long time.

    Meh to the Arya and Gendry’s scenes. Dany and Sansa, I get what they’re going for, but it’s very hard for me not to roll my eyes whenever Dany has on one of the two faces she can express.

    • #9
    • April 23, 2019, at 8:39 PM PDT
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  10. Coolidge

    bandreycak (View Comment):

    Y’all are usually bereft of GoT knowledge, but not knowing “The things we do for love” reference or the name of Davos pretty much take the cake. Still a fun show even if I’ve enjoyed the first two episodes and you have not.

    This is the only Podcast I listen to where I find myself yelling back at the Podcasters. They have such a good time, yet know so little about the show.

    No preparations or strategy? Every scene outside of Winterfell shows preparation: bringing in armies, digging trenches, building trebuchets, collapsible bridges, making dragonglass weapons, etc.

    And the first two episodes have been great.

    • #10
    • April 24, 2019, at 7:16 AM PDT
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  11. Member

    I’m in the minority. I have never watched GOT but I listen to this podcast simply for the banter between James and Toby. I share their thoughts with my oldest – who has read the books and watches the show – and he just laughs.

    It was fun to her the song at the end even if the boys didn’t understand the reference in context of the show.

    • #11
    • May 1, 2019, at 5:35 AM PDT
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