Jim Geraghty of National Review and Greg Corombos of Radio America are happy to see new reports showing the highest wage growth in a decade and the highest consumer confidence since 2000.  They also groan as dismal GOP prospects in major governors’ races could leave Democrats leading 12 of the 13 most populous states after the midterm elections.  And they do a terrible job of faking their shocked faces as Kanye West says he was used politically and is now “distancing himself from politics.”

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  1. Taras Coolidge
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     I used to always refer to Nicholas Kristof as “the clueless but well-meaning Nicholas Kristof“. 

     Now I am forced to transfer that cognomen to:  “the clueless but well-meaning Jim Geraghty”.

     Jim really, truly doesn’t understand how valuable it is for the Republicans to have any black celebrity in the White House with Donald Trump? 

     When some Republicans in Utah opposed the rise of Mia Love, I remember thinking, “How dumb are these people?“

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  2. George Townsend Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):

    I used to always refer to Nicholas Kristof as “the clueless but well-meaning Nicholas Kristof“.

    Now I am forced to transfer that cognomen to: “the clueless but well-meaning Jim Geraghty”.

    Jim really, truly doesn’t understand how valuable it is for the Republicans to have any black celebrity in the White House with Donald Trump?

    When some Republicans in Utah opposed the rise of Mia Love, I remember thinking, “How dumb are these people?“

    Right on about Mia Love. I didn’t know that anyone on our side opposed her. That is ridiculous. But Kanye West is a far different animal. You are short-changing Mrs. Love when you even put Kanye in the same sentence.

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  3. Taras Coolidge
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    I used to always refer to Nicholas Kristof as “the clueless but well-meaning Nicholas Kristof“.

    Now I am forced to transfer that cognomen to: “the clueless but well-meaning Jim Geraghty”.

    Jim really, truly doesn’t understand how valuable it is for the Republicans to have any black celebrity in the White House with Donald Trump?

    When some Republicans in Utah opposed the rise of Mia Love, I remember thinking, “How dumb are these people?“

    Right on about Mia Love. I didn’t know that anyone on our side opposed her. That is ridiculous. But Kanye West is a far different animal. You are short-changing Mrs. Love when you even put Kanye in the same sentence.

    To undermine the Racistrepublican stereotype, we have to take what we can get.

    I might add, the quote from Kanye West sounded quite sensible to me; more so than Jim and Greg, this outing.

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  4. George Townsend Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
    To undermine the Racistrepublican stereotype, we have to take what we can get.

     I totally disagree. I also don’t like the formulation. It is a stereotype on the Left, and I refuse to have them dictate what we do, or who we are.  

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  5. Arahant Member
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    Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! It’s all about Trump and all Trump’s fault. At least that’s what I would think were this podcast my only news source.

    Not every election is about Trump. The Michigan governorship is certainly not about him. It’s more about an old, ugly lawyer who first tried to become governor in the Lincoln administration running against a young, pretty lawyer with charisma. Last I heard, the outgoing Republican governor had not even endorsed our candidate. (Thanks, Rick!) I’m sure that what is happening in Wisconsin and other places are similar.

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  6. Taras Coolidge
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    To undermine the Racistrepublican stereotype, we have to take what we can get.

    I totally disagree. I also don’t like the formulation. It is a stereotype on the Left, and I refuse to have them dictate what we do, or who we are.

     You’re saying Republicans should permit Democrats to define them as racists, and not fight back against it?  Embrace their inner loser, no matter what the cost to the country?

    For some people, politics is all about inner feelings of purity and virtue.  They don’t mind losing if it reinforces those feelings.

     

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  7. George Townsend Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
     You’re saying Republicans should permit Democrats to define them as racists, and not fight back against it? Embrace their inner loser, no matter what the cost to the country?

    Just amazing. I am not saying that. Far from it. But embracing Mr. West is not fighting back. There are plenty of black people on our side: Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, Alan West, Thomas Sowell. I could go on. I am not sure at all embracing Mr. West will get us any more support. You just want to argue for argument’s sake. Kanye once said that George Bush didn’t care about black people. That is outrageous, and not very bright. Now that he likes Trump we need to embrace him? No thank you.

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  8. George Townsend Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):
    At least that’s what I would think were this podcast my only news source.

    The point is that this should not be your only source of news. The Three Martini Lunch is primarily an entertainment source. That, to me, is why it has lasted for eight years.

    Charlie, you do amaze me. You think in ways that are just you. 

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  9. Arahant Member
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    George Townsend (View Comment):
    The point is that this should not be your only source of news.

    Trust me, Dzordz, it’s not my only news source and never has been.

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  10. George Townsend Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):
    The point is that this should not be your only source of news.

    Trust me, Dzordz, it’s not my only news source and never has been.

    What is this Dzordz thing? I may  have been right about you a way back. Maybe you are not very nice. You are the one who said that if it was your only news source. I never thought it was. But what you wrote was silly.

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  11. Arahant Member
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    George Townsend (View Comment):
    What is this Dzordz thing?

    Think about it, George. Why would I do that?

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  12. George Townsend Inactive
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):
    What is this Dzordz thing?

    Think about it, George. Why would I do that?

    Please enlighten me?

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  13. Taras Coolidge
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    You’re saying Republicans should permit Democrats to define them as racists, and not fight back against it? Embrace their inner loser, no matter what the cost to the country?

    Just amazing. I am not saying that. Far from it. But embracing Mr. West is not fighting back. There are plenty of black people on our side: Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, Alan West, Thomas Sowell. I could go on. I am not sure at all embracing Mr. West will get us any more support. You just want to argue for argument’s sake. Kanye once said that George Bush didn’t care about black people. That is outrageous, and not very bright. Now that he likes Trump we need to embrace him? No thank you.

     You really can’t see the difference between having the support of one of the most famous black people in America today (especially famous among young blacks), versus these very admirable people whom no one outside the conservative movement has ever heard of.  A measure of Kanye’s fame is that people can barely remember that long-ago football and movie star Jim Brown was even there. 

      Let’s imagine how young black potential voters look at it …

     Scenario I:   They keep telling me Donald Trump is a racist, but Kanye West, one of the most famous and successful black people in the world, with 27 million Twitter followers, is his friend. 

     Scenario II:   They keep telling me Donald Trump is a racist, but some “Uncle Toms” in their 70s and 80s I’ve never heard of may support him.

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  14. George Townsend Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    You’re saying Republicans should permit Democrats to define them as racists, and not fight back against it? Embrace their inner loser, no matter what the cost to the country?

    Just amazing. I am not saying that. Far from it. But embracing Mr. West is not fighting back. There are plenty of black people on our side: Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, Alan West, Thomas Sowell. I could go on. I am not sure at all embracing Mr. West will get us any more support. You just want to argue for argument’s sake. Kanye once said that George Bush didn’t care about black people. That is outrageous, and not very bright. Now that he likes Trump we need to embrace him? No thank you.

    You really can’t see the difference between having the support of one of the most famous black people in America today (especially famous among young blacks), versus these very admirable people whom no one outside the conservative movement has ever heard of. A measure of Kanye’s fame is that people can barely remember that long-ago football and movie star Jim Brown was even there.

    Let’s imagine how young black potential voters look at it …

    Scenario I: They keep telling me Donald Trump is a racist, but Kanye West, one of the most famous and successful black people in the world, with 27 million Twitter followers, is his friend.

    Scenario II: They keep telling me Donald Trump is a racist, but some “Uncle Toms” in their 70s and 80s I’ve never heard of may support him.

    Nice of you to speak for blacks. If you can, tell me one black person who came to Trump because West supports him. If you can’t, I think it is time to end this.

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  15. Taras Coolidge
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    You’re saying Republicans should permit Democrats to define them as racists, and not fight back against it? Embrace their inner loser, no matter what the cost to the country?

    Just amazing. I am not saying that. Far from it. But embracing Mr. West is not fighting back. There are plenty of black people on our side: Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, Alan West, Thomas Sowell. I could go on. I am not sure at all embracing Mr. West will get us any more support. You just want to argue for argument’s sake. Kanye once said that George Bush didn’t care about black people. That is outrageous, and not very bright. Now that he likes Trump we need to embrace him? No thank you.

    You really can’t see the difference between having the support of one of the most famous black people in America today (especially famous among young blacks), versus these very admirable people whom no one outside the conservative movement has ever heard of. A measure of Kanye’s fame is that people can barely remember that long-ago football and movie star Jim Brown was even there.

    Let’s imagine how young black potential voters look at it …

    Scenario I: They keep telling me Donald Trump is a racist, but Kanye West, one of the most famous and successful black people in the world, with 27 million Twitter followers, is his friend.

    Scenario II: They keep telling me Donald Trump is a racist, but some “Uncle Toms” in their 70s and 80s I’ve never heard of may support him.

    Nice of you to speak for blacks. If you can, tell me one black person who came to Trump because West supports him. If you can’t, I think it is time to end this.

    You, of course, have the option of not responding to — indeed, not reading — my postings at any time.

    The rage and abuse to which Kanye West has been subjected due to his “treason“ is good evidence that the Left, at least, knows what is at stake.  Supporting Donald Trump has, in all probability, cost Kanye West millions of dollars already.

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