Your Friday martinis are served as Rob Long fills in for Jim. Today, they applaud Tim Scott for pointing out the Democrats didn’t block police reform because of what was in the bill but because of who was proposing it. They also wade into the scrutiny on some red states as their COVID infections increase, and they dissect the intense political debate over wearing masks. And they have fun with the news $1.4 billion in stimulus checks were sent out to dead people.

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  1. Arahant Member

    There were plenty of WMD’s in Iraq. I kept reading about their being found in the New York Times.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 10:48 AM PDT
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  2. Arahant Member

    A lot of the “checks” were electronic payments. I never saw a check, for instance.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 10:57 AM PDT
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  3. Taras Coolidge

    Arahant (View Comment):

    There were plenty of WMD’s in Iraq. I kept reading about their being found in the New York Times.

    According to the Times, about 5000 old poison gas shells were found.

    This is probably a lower limit on what was there, however. When troops would find poison gas shells in an ammo dump, for safety reasons they would immediately stop counting, back off, and entomb the ammo dump in concrete,

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    • June 26, 2020, at 11:43 AM PDT
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  4. DHMorgan Coolidge

    So there’s good news. If you died in Chicago, you can still cash your stimulus check.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 1:07 PM PDT
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  5. kedavis Member

    DHMorgan (View Comment):

    So there’s good news. If you died in Chicago, you can still cash your stimulus check.

    Plus voting!

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    • June 26, 2020, at 3:40 PM PDT
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  6. kedavis Member

    As I recall, there were reports of truck convoys from Iraq to Syria, which probably were not loaded with camel milk and woven baskets.

     

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    • June 26, 2020, at 4:36 PM PDT
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  7. kedavis Member

    Yes, most people – especially the Social Security recipients mentioned – got their stimulus money by electronic direct deposit. Unless the people who died, did so in the last couple months, those bank accounts were closed. Which means the money was returned to the treasury.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 4:36 PM PDT
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  8. Taras Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yes, most people – especially the Social Security recipients mentioned – got their stimulus money by electronic direct deposit. Unless the people who died, did so in the last couple months, those bank accounts were closed. Which means the money was returned to the treasury.

    Only if the bank was informed of the death, I think — and nobody else knew the ID and password of the deceased.

    P.S.: I got a debit card.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 4:48 PM PDT
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  9. kedavis Member

    Hat tip to PHenry for posting this on another thread:

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    • June 26, 2020, at 5:04 PM PDT
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  10. kedavis Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yes, most people – especially the Social Security recipients mentioned – got their stimulus money by electronic direct deposit. Unless the people who died, did so in the last couple months, those bank accounts were closed. Which means the money was returned to the treasury.

    Only if the bank was informed of the death, I think — and nobody else knew the ID and password of the deceased.

    P.S.: I got a debit card.

    Families would likely close the account once Social Security money stops coming in. Why would they think “Hey let’s keep it open, just in case some extra money shows up someday”?

    Banks will also close accounts automatically after a certain period of no activity.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 5:23 PM PDT
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  11. MiMac Thatcher

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Hat tip to PHenry for posting this on another thread:

     

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    • June 26, 2020, at 6:49 PM PDT
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  12. MiMac Thatcher

    Garbage photo- the nurse is wearing it incorrectly- my colleagues and I have to wear N95 or better masks everyday & no one has gotten bruises. I guess we have to give up our guns, cars, ladders etc because all have lead to injuries when used by people who do not know what there doing.
    kodos to Rob for mentioning much of the opposition to wearing masks is due to lies early on trying to discourage mask wearing.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 6:51 PM PDT
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  13. Arahant Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yes, most people – especially the Social Security recipients mentioned – got their stimulus money by electronic direct deposit. Unless the people who died, did so in the last couple months, those bank accounts were closed. Which means the money was returned to the treasury.

    Only if the bank was informed of the death, I think — and nobody else knew the ID and password of the deceased.

    P.S.: I got a debit card.

    Or it wasn’t a joint account. Now I’m wondering if my step-mother received one for my father.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 10:11 PM PDT
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  14. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Banks will also close accounts automatically after a certain period of no activity.

    That may be a longer period than you think.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 10:16 PM PDT
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  15. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Banks will also close accounts automatically after a certain period of no activity.

    That may be a longer period than you think.

    It may vary by state. Here I think it’s 3 months.

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    • June 26, 2020, at 10:46 PM PDT
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  16. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It may vary by state. Here I think it’s 3 months.

    That is pretty crazy. Who gets the money in the accounts? The state?

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    • June 26, 2020, at 11:07 PM PDT
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  17. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It may vary by state. Here I think it’s 3 months.

    That is pretty crazy. Who gets the money in the accounts? The state?

    If there is any money left – usually accounts are just left open after they have all been spent, because people don’t bother to actively close them – it goes to the unclaimed property dept for each state, as happens with abandoned safe deposit boxes, unclaimed tax refunds, and some other things. Which is why you might occasionally see or hear or read ads from state unclaimed property departments, and/or attorneys or other people who specialize in matching up people and unclaimed property for a percentage.

    Do you think that’s automatically bad or evil or something? Do you think banks have some obligation to hire Paul Drake to find you or your inheritors or whatever?

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    • June 26, 2020, at 11:26 PM PDT
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  18. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Do you think that’s automatically bad or evil or something? Do you think banks have some obligation to hire Paul Drake to find you or your inheritors or whatever?

    No and no, but three months seems a bit fast.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 12:59 AM PDT
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  19. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Do you think that’s automatically bad or evil or something? Do you think banks have some obligation to hire Paul Drake to find you or your inheritors or whatever?

    No and no, but three months seems a bit fast.

    Well if you’re going on sabbatical to Asia or something, you’d be letting people know first. And even if you pay rent ahead, you can still have abandoned a place if you’re not there for weeks, and gave no notice as to why.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 1:15 AM PDT
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  20. Taras Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yes, most people – especially the Social Security recipients mentioned – got their stimulus money by electronic direct deposit. Unless the people who died, did so in the last couple months, those bank accounts were closed. Which means the money was returned to the treasury.

    Only if the bank was informed of the death, I think — and nobody else knew the ID and password of the deceased.

    P.S.: I got a debit card.

    Families would likely close the account once Social Security money stops coming in. Why would they think “Hey let’s keep it open, just in case some extra money shows up someday”?

    Banks will also close accounts automatically after a certain period of no activity.

    If nobody tells Social Security the recipient is dead, and somebody keeps taking the money out, I wonder how long this can continue.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 9:22 AM PDT
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  21. Arahant Member

    Taras (View Comment):
    If nobody tells Social Security the recipient is dead, and somebody keeps taking the money out, I wonder how long this can continue.

    Depends, but eventually they do find out. The cases that go the longest are the ones where grandma is still sitting in her rocking chair mummified.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 9:26 AM PDT
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  22. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    If nobody tells Social Security the recipient is dead, and somebody keeps taking the money out, I wonder how long this can continue.

    Depends, but eventually they do find out. The cases that go the longest are the ones where grandma is still sitting in her rocking chair mummified.

    Yes every now and then you read about someone who kept a body in the house for weeks or months or longer, but these days it seems like most elderly end up in hospice or hospitalized or something, when they die. Except maybe in Appalachia or something. In those cases notification seems automatic.

    I’ve read that Social Security is sending money every month to a number of people who statistically could not still be alive at age 110 or something. But those would be easy to find out, if anyone cared to bother.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 3:42 PM PDT
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