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  1. colleenb Member
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    Even though this had to be a repeat I appreciated hearing the discussions. 

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  2. MiMac Thatcher
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    I think the analogy of eye glasses to possible remediation for low IQ isn’t very useful. Eye glasses are technically simple, cheap, & widely accepted/understood. But that isn’t the case for any known remediation for low IQ.  The studies always mentioned are the Perry Preschool Project & the Acededarian Early Intervention Project.  First, because the main remediation studies are small and   haven’t been replicated-particularly at scale (Perry Preschool & Abecedarian Early Intervention Project). Additionally, the Abecedarian Project had problems with its early set up-ie poor randomization & test subjects had higher IQs at an early stage). Second, the kind of interventions required are probably not achievable for a number of reasons-they require significant intrusions into the families involved.

    We do have data that preschool is bad for children-even NPR has had to acknowledge the problem:

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/10/1079406041/researcher-says-rethink-prek-preschool-prekindergarten

    If we had early interventions that clearly were effective then the rationale to use them would be overwhelming.

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  3. Lord Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    I think the analogy of eye glasses to possible remediation for low IQ isn’t very useful. Eye glasses are technically simple, cheap, & widely accepted/understood. But that isn’ the case for any known remediation for low IQ. The studies always mentioned are the Perry Preschool Project & the Acededarian Early Intervention Project. First, because the main remediation studies are small and haven’t been replicated-particularly at scale (Perry Preschool & Abecedarian Early Intervention Project). Additionally, the Abecedarian Project had problems with its early set up-ie poor randomization & test subjects had higher IQs at an early stage). Second, the kind of interventions required are probably not achievable for a number of reasons-they require significant intrusions into the families involved.

    We do have data that preschool is bad for children-even NPR has had to acknowledge the problem:

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/10/1079406041/researcher-says-rethink-prek-preschool-prekindergarten

    If we had early interventions that clearly were effective then the rationale to use them would be overwhelming.

    Maybe Neuralink.  Ha.

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  4. Lord Rabbit von Hasenpfeffer Member
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    Peterson makes a really important point.  A lot of very smart people dismiss the validity of IQ because they don’t have significant interactions with people on the left side of the bell curve.

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