Who will the Dems run in 2020? Jon and Stephen handicap the race early with 15 hopefuls.

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There are 11 comments.

  1. Member

    On the candidates: I think Jon is absolutely right: No white guy will stand a chance. I think it will come down to Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris. It’ll be pretty close, depending on who can out-Left whom.

    On the so-called music: Call me an old fuddy-duddy, but I couldn’t stand it. How can anyone like that stuff??!

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    • August 4, 2018 at 4:35 am
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  2. Lincoln

    I’m from Massachusetts. One Democrat who might actually make a decent president is our former governor Deval Patrick.

    • #2
    • August 4, 2018 at 8:22 am
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  3. Coolidge

    F.Y.I. Stephen Miller: James Buchanan was the first gay President of the United States (4 March 1857 – 4 March 1861), was the only POTUS to remain a lifelong bachelor, was rumoured to have had a close relationship to William Rufus King and the two were nicknamed “Miss Nancy” and “Aunt Fancy” by contemporaries.

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    • August 4, 2018 at 1:38 pm
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  4. Thatcher

    Clarification for Stephen: It’s not “eff you” money. It’s “eff me” money, meaning a person who can throw away a billion, get nothing out of it, and still be fine.

     

    Credit @adamcarolla

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    • August 4, 2018 at 2:15 pm
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  5. Thatcher

    KarenZiminski (View Comment):

    I’m from Massachusetts. One Democrat who might actually make a decent president is our former governor Deval Patrick.

    I see why Patrick might make a very decent candidate. He loses the racial/ethnic/gender checkbox derby to Harris (she’s the three tools identity politics player) but he has the far better and broader resume, a solid basis on which to support Obamacare against Sanderscare hysteria, and, perhaps, David Axelrod.

    But why do you think he might make a decent president? Really just your central casting liberal governor. Could have been created by Aaron Sorkin.

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    • August 4, 2018 at 3:51 pm
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  6. Lincoln

    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    KarenZiminski (View Comment):

    I’m from Massachusetts. One Democrat who might actually make a decent president is our former governor Deval Patrick.

    I see why Patrick might make a very decent candidate. He loses the racial/ethnic/gender checkbox derby to Harris (she’s the three tools identity politics player) but he has the far better and broader resume, a solid basis on which to support Obamacare against Sanderscare hysteria, and, perhaps, David Axelrod.

    But why do you think he might make a decent president? Really just your central casting liberal governor. Could have been created by Aaron Sorkin.

    By “decent” I meant that compared to any of the other top contenders for the Democratic nomination he wouldn’t be a total disaster. I would still rather the next president be a Republican.

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    • August 4, 2018 at 4:14 pm
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  7. Reagan

    Who I would prefer combined with who I see as potential candidates.

    1. Joe Biden. After 4 years of crazy, Uncle Joe appears to be sane. Also, moderate compared to the other Dem candidates.
    2. Amy Klobuchar. Not strident. Sensible Minnesotan. I also appreciate a candidate who wears glasses.
    3. Kamala Harris. A black woman prosecutor. Moderate based on the California scale.
    4. Eric Holder and Deval Patrick. Has the thoughtful Obama cadence down and can express anger without shouting. Cory Booker could learn from them.
    5. John Hickenlooper, Chris Coons & Tim Kaine. Three thoughtful white males. Unfortunately, Coons and Kaine are not running. As a bonus, Chris Coons is folliclely challenged. America needs a bald president who didn’t get hair plugs, but embraced his baldness.
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    • August 4, 2018 at 6:23 pm
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  8. Thatcher

    Jon & Stephen,

    Was it really necessary to put all of their photos up at once? Now I’m nauseous and have a severe migraine. Isn’t there some way that they could all lose? Perhaps they could all attend a debate in Northern California and be consumed by wildfire.

    There now I feel much better.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • August 4, 2018 at 9:04 pm
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  9. Member

    Jon,

    You mentioned the NYT being consistent regarding how they stand by their hires – with the exception being Quinn Norton.

    Another exception was Razib Khan. The NYT hired him and then dumped him for assorted double plus ungood tweeting and thinking…

    -Mike

    • #9
    • August 5, 2018 at 11:35 am
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  10. Lincoln

    Oh come on, you should have called it Handicapping Handicaps – chicken!! Bawk, bawk bawk!!

    • #10
    • August 7, 2018 at 6:56 am
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  11. Member

    How will the media arm of the Democrat Party handle a large Democrat primary field? They had the “kid’s table” and main stage for the Republicans. The first group didn’t get much attention and mostly stayed low in the polls. Ace and others offered suggestions to balance the debates. What I remember was randomly picking eight and running two prime time debates, not building on the ones already with high recognition. 

    Would they want their team to have equal chances or would they help pick a winner? Pretty sure it would be the later, especially as you mentioned Pope Mario the Pius’ sons being on both sides of the fight. 

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    • August 9, 2018 at 8:12 pm
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