Fear and Loathing at CES

Ricochet Editor-in-Chief Jon Gabriel and Heatstreet contributor Stephen Miller welcome Erin Gloria Ryan to talk about her trip at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Erin is a senior editor at the Daily Beast and appears on truTV’s “Greatest Ever.” She previously served as the Managing Editor of Jezebel and Deputy Editor at Vocativ, as well as a writer for VH1’s “Best Week Ever.”

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There are 20 comments.

  1. Dave Sussman Contributor

    “I don’t want to advocate the use of illegal drugs, but I met DANCING ROBOTS!”

    Guess the word for Erin is… Daredevil?

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    • January 10, 2017, at 3:35 PM PST
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  2. Sal Member

    I stopped listening when Erin started with her juvenile talk of dropping acid at the CES. Having lived through the real 60s I don’t need to see it re-staged by half-literate epigones. This normalization of drugs is really disgusting. If it keeps up I’m going cancel my subscription.

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    • January 11, 2017, at 6:14 AM PST
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  3. Chris Gregerson Member

    Really, this was a waste of time. As with Sal, I lived through the 60’s and 70’s and had to deal with social events, most of which revolved around the drug culture. Those people were a waste of time as are you. Please don’t do this again.

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    • January 11, 2017, at 7:17 AM PST
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  4. Merrijane Member

    This was really disappointing. My kids looked at me confused for a minute thinking it must be a joke, then I shut it off.

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    • January 11, 2017, at 7:55 AM PST
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  5. JamesAtkins Member

    I too stopped listening about halfway through. With the devastation that illegal drugs has rough on our communities, I found this conversion was turning my stomach. I’m very disappointed.

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    • January 11, 2017, at 8:44 AM PST
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  6. 1967mustangman Inactive

    I was a little put off by all the abortion-related jokes.

    • #6
    • January 11, 2017, at 9:27 AM PST
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  7. Kirsten_StP Lincoln

    If you have known someone who died of a drug overdose, or is a talented but unemployed writer who would happily cover CES honestly, or who has faced an unplanned pregnancy, it’s hard to find humor in those things. But all that aside: Hearing someone recount the details of their drug trip is boring.

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    • January 11, 2017, at 10:18 AM PST
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  8. Merrijane Member

    Kirsten (View Comment):
    … But all that aside: Hearing someone recount the details of their drug trip is boring.

    Right up there with hearing someone recount the “amazing dream I had last night.”

    • #8
    • January 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM PST
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  9. Northmn Member

    I agree with Sal and others. This was by far the worst podcast ever on Ricochet. Having a druggie as president for 8 yrs has been bad enough.

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    • January 11, 2017, at 7:47 PM PST
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  10. milkchaser Member

    A word of advice, like, after like listening to like the same crutch word over and like over again, it gets distracting from like the underlying message. If you would not, like, write it in your article, don’t say it.

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    • January 12, 2017, at 5:53 AM PST
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  11. milkchaser Member

    Kirsten (View Comment):
    If you have known someone who died of a drug overdose…

    I lost a child to a drug overdose. I do not think this prevents me from appreciating the piece. Also, I believe most people die from narcotics overdoses, but not LSD or pot, which are relatively safe. I did not enjoy the stories about the drug experiences either. Having watched my friends “trip”, I conclude that people who do this think it is much more interesting to others than it could possibly be. However, I believe this podcast was meant to be lighthearted and not deep – a bit of a break from politics.

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    • January 12, 2017, at 6:00 AM PST
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  12. milkchaser Member

    I strongly disagree with the shaming of drug users in these comments. If taking drugs bothers you, don’t do it, don’t talk about it and don’t listen to it. But not everyone agrees with you and you really should have no say as to what others choose to experience. Unlike with abortion, which affects the lives of at least two living human beings, taking a recreational drug generally affects only the person who chooses to take it. If they ruin or end their lives as a result, that is also their horrible choice. The description of this “trip” does not fall into that category. Erin was not taking a great risk to her life or well-being.

    I lived through the 60s as well. I had a son die from a drug overdose. People take drugs. That’s part of life.

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    • January 12, 2017, at 6:06 AM PST
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  13. Chris Bogdan Inactive

    Listening to people recount what happened when they were doing drugs reminds me of the old Dennis Miller bit:
    “I don’t mind getting high so much as I mind the people you have to get high with”.

    You should stop telling We Were So High stories when you start paying taxes.

    Switched to the Weekly Substandard podcast well before this episode was done.

    • #13
    • January 13, 2017, at 11:59 AM PST
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  14. Nerina Bellinger Member

    To paraphrase Vetruvius scolding Emmet in “The Lego Movie,” “this podcast was just – the worst.” It really was and I typically enjoy it very much. Between the bad jokes about abortion (which weren’t funny and I guess I’ve decided there ARE some things that you can’t joke about) and the vocal tics of your guest, it was painful to listen. I know we are in need of a break from 24/7 politics and I commend your effort, but this was a fail.

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    • January 13, 2017, at 12:46 PM PST
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  15. Jon Gabriel, Ed. Chief

    Appreciate all the feedback, even though most was negative. When we started this podcast, we decided we would take chances. One episode might work for some people, but won’t work for others.

    As to drugs, my list of illicit experiences is as follows: thinking I got high off a joint I bought in the parking lot of a ZZ Top concert. Half an hour later, my more experienced friends informed me it was just oregano. I am the squarest libertarian-leaning guy you’ll ever meet.

    What I most appreciated about Erin’s appearance was the opportunity for conservatives to talk with a committed progressive in a friendly, civil fashion. Thanks for indulging our continuing experiments.

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    • January 13, 2017, at 1:47 PM PST
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  16. Chris Bogdan Inactive

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    What I most appreciated about Erin’s appearance was the opportunity for conservatives to talk with a committed progressive in a friendly, civil fashion. Thanks for indulging our continuing experiments.

    I don’t object to you two experimenting or talking to the other side. Lord knows I wouldn’t be able to put together enough interesting content to merit a weekly podcast. This instance just didn’t work for me. Even after going over to The Daily Beast and reading Erin’s piece, I still can’t reckon what the point of it was.

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    • January 13, 2017, at 2:24 PM PST
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  17. Randy Weivoda Moderator

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):
    I am the squarest libertarian-leaning guy you’ll ever meet.

    I’m not so sure about that claim. I think we need a contest on Ricochet to determine who is the squarest libertarian-leaner here.

    The nearest I’ve ever been to pot was at a Willie Nelson concert at the local fairgrounds. Sounds too stereotypical to be true, but it is. I was standing next to a hippie (again with the stereotypes, but I swear it’s true) who offered to share his joint. I politely declined.

    Regarding the podcast, if you’re going to bring in a guest to talk about similar indulgences, might I suggest P.J. O’Rourke? He’s actually a fascinating guest no matter what the topic is.

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    • January 14, 2017, at 2:31 PM PST
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  18. Frozen Chosen Inactive

    I was very disappointed in this podcast because:

    1. I was hoping for some real discussion of new gadgets at CES
    2. The insipid talk about dropping acid was disturbing and juvenile
    3. It wasn’t in the least bit funny or entertaining. First Ricochet podcast I actually turned off.
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    • January 16, 2017, at 12:17 PM PST
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  19. Sal Member
    1. @milkchaser If I think someone is doing something destructive to herself I am in my full rights as a human being to speak of it. It’s not shaming it’s pointing out dangerous folly and delusion. Drug using is unambiguously destructive and I will not be detained from speaking my view.
    • #19
    • January 17, 2017, at 7:29 PM PST
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  20. Full Size Tabby Member

    I know I’m late to this as I had an accumulation of podcasts. I don’t want to pile on, but I have a slightly different reason why I stopped listening early on. The casual approach the woman took to taking such mind-altering drugs told me she does not respect herself, and I do not see why I should respect what she has to say by spending my time listening to it.

    [Stephen has already been on my “listen skeptically” list because of his contempt for people who do not fully agree with him.]

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    • January 19, 2017, at 3:34 AM PST
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