David C. Lowery

David C. Lowery founded the legendary bands Camper van Beethoven and Cracker. He’s also a mathematician, writer, producer, professor, entrepreneur, and a member of Ricochet.com. (Please join!) Jon and David talk about his music, the industry in the age of COVID-19, and how streaming services affect the bottom line.

The intro song is “Take the Skinheads Bowling” by Camper van Beethoven and the outro (and David’s pick) is “What a Fool Believes” by EURINGER. Jon’s song of the week is “Alice Hyatt” by Damien Jurado. To listen to all the music featured on The Conservatarians, subscribe to our Spotify playlist!

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  1. Hammer, The Member

    I imagine being with you guys this week will be… like being stoned.

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    • April 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM PDT
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  2. EtCarter Listener

    Re: Cracker (underrated genius) Eurotrash girl: so insulting, however, from an American: a high-praise, much-desired status, yes?

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    • April 14, 2020, at 6:55 PM PDT
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  3. EtCarter Listener

    cinderella+ fall of the berlin wall= singularly great moscow live footage and instant legit beyond gnr even (spag incident was pretty awesome though)

    • #3
    • April 14, 2020, at 6:58 PM PDT
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  4. Jim Wright Coolidge

    Fun interview!

    I haven’t listened to a lot of Camper van Beethoven, but I did put “Take the skinheads bowling” on more than a few mix tapes in college.

    • #4
    • April 14, 2020, at 8:18 PM PDT
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  5. Alfaphile Member
    Alfaphile Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Learning that David Lowery is a Ricochet member is mind blowing. The confluence of my favorite band, Cracker, and my favorite podcast source, and the dulcet tones of Jon Gabriel is fantastic. Thanks Jon!

    • #5
    • April 15, 2020, at 5:09 AM PDT
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  6. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This is *great*! Thanks for getting David Lowery on a Ricochet podcast. 

    Folks, Camper Van Beethoven’s “Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart” is my personal favorite album. A total joy to listen to from beginning to end.

    CVB is a crazy mix of genres (punk, prog, ska, folk, psychedelia…) but they weave it together so well. Someone once describe the band as “ethnic folk music from a country they made up”.

    Cracker is more Americana, and the song writing is stunning.

     

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    • April 15, 2020, at 8:28 AM PDT
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  7. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    @davidclowery , 

    Given the current state of the music industry… such as it is…

    How can music fans spend their hard-earned entertainment dollar so that their favorite musicians end up receiving the most revenue?

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    • April 15, 2020, at 8:33 AM PDT
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  8. colleenb Member
    colleenb Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Don’t know much about his music or this general music scene but it was an interesting interview and he knows a lot about the music industry. Fascinating that there’s some board deciding on royalties. I think there is so much regulation like this that the general public knows nothing about.

    • #8
    • April 15, 2020, at 8:56 AM PDT
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  9. Jdetente Member

    David is both an amazing songwriter and Twitter follow. I really enjoy watching him spar with all of the parasitic anti-artist copywright lawyers that trawl the depths of Twitter. Not CoC compliant but that’s part of the charm. Great podcast and interview.

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    • April 15, 2020, at 9:09 AM PDT
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  10. ScottE Member

    This is a great ep. Thanks Jon! Possible new co-host?

    • #10
    • April 15, 2020, at 11:23 AM PDT
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  11. Songwriter Member
    Songwriter Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There’s also a negative side.” (Hunter S. Thompson)

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    • April 15, 2020, at 1:21 PM PDT
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  12. Dotorimuk Coolidge

    This was a great interview of a guy who’s made interesting and entertaining music for eons. “Take the Skinheads Bowling” was the first song I ever learned on guitar. After Camper Van Beethoven played a GREAT show at the University of Oklahoma, in ‘86 or ‘87, one of them gave me a “Monterey Pope Festival” t-shirt, with a psychedelic picture of Pope John Paul. Several band members then went to the top of the student union building with a bag of fireworks. A fantastic concert, fun bunch of guys and good memories. I think I paid $8 and I think the opening band was called Catbutt….

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    • April 15, 2020, at 5:20 PM PDT
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  13. Dotorimuk Coolidge

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    This is *great*! Thanks for getting David Lowery on a Ricochet podcast.

    Folks, Camper Van Beethoven’s “Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart” is my personal favorite album. A total joy to listen to from beginning to end.

    CVB is a crazy mix of genres (punk, prog, ska, folk, psychedelia…) but they weave it together so well. Someone once describe the band as “ethnic folk music from a country they made up”.

    Cracker is more Americana, and the song writing is stunning.

     

    Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart is one of my tops too.

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    • April 15, 2020, at 5:25 PM PDT
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  14. Zed11 Lincoln

    In previous life, was always fun to happen across people who were seriously intelligent. Neil Peart, obviously you’ve seen me mention him, but two others who come to mind are John McCrea of Cake and the late Gordon Downie of The Tragically Hip. This was great, Chief, and hope you submit more interesting music/entertainment gets here. A nice change of pace from the political wind tunnel coming from every angle.

    Side note, wonder if Lowery ever gigged with or knew the band Too Much Joy. Vocalist Tim Quirk is (was?) involved with a music-app company called Freeform, which is detailed in the article and podcast below. I say “was” because am wondering if maybe company was acquired, cursory search not finding much recent news on them.

    https://www.fastcompany.com/3047054/ex-google-play-exec-launches-freeform-a-music-streaming-platform-powered-by-mo

    https://youtu.be/3z3s4XzzgSY

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    • April 15, 2020, at 5:42 PM PDT
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  15. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    I thought CVB basically lived at the Boathouse in Virginia Beach.

    “If you want to change the world, shut your mouth and start to spin it” Has been a mantra since that came out

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    • April 15, 2020, at 7:23 PM PDT
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  16. Kevin Creighton Contributor

    I had friends who where at that show at Zia’s, and I know I was at Big Surf in 1989 when Camper Van played there along with Mary’s Danish and the RHCP (that was a HECK of a show), and then again at Phoenix Munie in 1992 for Q-Fest where Cracker performed. 

    And I should I have more memories of Camper Van playing at the Mason Jar, but my recollections of that venue are a tad hazy. 

    Beer might be the reason why. 

    Man, I miss that scene. Thanks for the memories, @exjon, and let’s go grab a beer at Nita’s sometime soon. :) 

    • #16
    • April 16, 2020, at 9:58 AM PDT
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