Victor Davis Hanson diagnoses the biggest challenges facing America in the years ahead, from debt to immigration to Chinese aggression — and pauses for a special remembrance of his friend Rush Limbaugh.

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    I love that he uses the word fornicate unironically.

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  2. Boney Cole Member
    Boney Cole
    @BoneyCole

    Yes, that is extremely rare.  I do not recall that word ever being used in my presence even in a sermon at a Catholic service.  The only rarely is the positive attribute of chastity mentioned.  I have never heard Hanson mention his personal approach to religion or God.  I am most often in agreement with him, and he has provided insights that I otherwise would not have encountered.  I wish he was a traditional Catholic, and I could credit his wisdom to his religion.  His wisdom seems to have derived from a deep respect for his parents (and their forbearers), and his study of the classics. I would like to read an explanation from him on the basis of his thought. A renowned secular intellectual in the 21sr century who can use t word “fornicate” unironically is rare indeed

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  3. Mark Alexander Coolidge
    Mark Alexander
    @MarkAlexander

    It’s heartening hearing Victor Speak of Rush so warmly of Rush. I was in Sacramento when Rush first started. I tell a tale of how Rush’s sense of humor and unwillingness to suffer fools led to a 4-day event that upset a lot of fools.

    https://ricochet.com/897209/rush-limbaugh-in-the-beginning/

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  4. Wolfsheim Member
    Wolfsheim
    @Wolfsheim

    Boney Cole (View Comment):Yes, that is extremely rare. I do not recall that word ever being used in my presence even in a sermon at a Catholic service. The only rarely is the positive attribute of chastity mentioned. I have never heard Hanson mention his personal approach to religion or God. I am most often in agreement with him, and he has provided insights that I otherwise would not have encountered. I wish he was a traditional Catholic, and I could credit his wisdom to his religion. His wisdom seems to have derived from a deep respect for his parents (and their forbearers), and his study of the classics. I would like to read an explanation from him on the basis of his thought. A renowned secular intellectual in the 21sr century who can use t word “fornicate” unironically is rare indeed

    Many decades ago, I heard a brother of mine jauntily singing along with the words “Why Don’t We Do it in the Road?” Knowing him to be a staunch defender of Christian sexual morality, the Zeitgeist be damned, I asked him how he could be implying approval for what struck me as a thoroughly amoral song. “Oh,” he replied, “it’s quite all right for a married couple to do it in the road!” I didn’t further inquire as to whether it should be one’s own road…Some years after that I was teaching a course in comparative Japanese and American culture at a small liberal arts college in America, when one of the better students, the daughter of an English professor, posed the question: “Is it true that the Japanese have, like, this totally weird attitude about sex?” “Could you be a little more specific?” I asked warily. “Ya know, like you’re not supposed to do it before you’re married…?” “Uh, well, how is that different from what’s taught in the United States?” I asked in return. “Huh?” she replied. “I’ve never heard of that!” I realized then that the barbarians were well within the gates and that I should be packing my bags again.

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  5. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    Boney Cole (View Comment):Yes, that is extremely rare. I do not recall that word ever being used in my presence even in a sermon at a Catholic service. The only rarely is the positive attribute of chastity mentioned. I have never heard Hanson mention his personal approach to religion or God. I am most often in agreement with him, and he has provided insights that I otherwise would not have encountered. I wish he was a traditional Catholic, and I could credit his wisdom to his religion. His wisdom seems to have derived from a deep respect for his parents (and their forbearers), and his study of the classics. I would like to read an explanation from him on the basis of his thought. A renowned secular intellectual in the 21sr century who can use t word “fornicate” unironically is rare indeed

    Many decades ago, I heard a brother of mine jauntily singing along with the words “Why Don’t We Do it in the Road?” Knowing him to be a staunch defender of Christian sexual morality, the Zeitgeist be damned, I asked him how he could be implying approval for what struck me as a thoroughly amoral song. “Oh,” he replied, “it’s quite all right for a married couple to do it in the road!” I didn’t further inquire as to whether it should be one’s own road…Some years after that I was teaching a course in comparative Japanese and American culture at a small liberal arts college in America, when one of the better students, the daughter of an English professor, posed the question: “Is it true that the Japanese have, like, this totally weird attitude about sex?” “Could you be a little more specific?” I asked warily. “Ya know, like you’re not supposed to do it before you’re married…?” “Uh, well, how is that different from what’s taught in the United States?” I asked in return. “Huh?” she replied. “I’ve never heard of that!” I realized then that the barbarians were well within the gates and that I should be packing my bags again.

    Japanese are probably less prudish about sex but they are often more prudent. They have less abortions and less premarital babies. There is gay marriage in some places but homosexuality has never been the all important deal that it has been here. What is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is…. so I hear. 

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  6. MISTER BITCOIN Member
    MISTER BITCOIN
    @MISTERBITCOIN

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    Boney Cole (View Comment):Yes, that is extremely rare. I do not recall that word ever being used in my presence even in a sermon at a Catholic service. The only rarely is the positive attribute of chastity mentioned. I have never heard Hanson mention his personal approach to religion or God. I am most often in agreement with him, and he has provided insights that I otherwise would not have encountered. I wish he was a traditional Catholic, and I could credit his wisdom to his religion. His wisdom seems to have derived from a deep respect for his parents (and their forbearers), and his study of the classics. I would like to read an explanation from him on the basis of his thought. A renowned secular intellectual in the 21sr century who can use t word “fornicate” unironically is rare indeed

    Many decades ago, I heard a brother of mine jauntily singing along with the words “Why Don’t We Do it in the Road?” Knowing him to be a staunch defender of Christian sexual morality, the Zeitgeist be damned, I asked him how he could be implying approval for what struck me as a thoroughly amoral song. “Oh,” he replied, “it’s quite all right for a married couple to do it in the road!” I didn’t further inquire as to whether it should be one’s own road…Some years after that I was teaching a course in comparative Japanese and American culture at a small liberal arts college in America, when one of the better students, the daughter of an English professor, posed the question: “Is it true that the Japanese have, like, this totally weird attitude about sex?” “Could you be a little more specific?” I asked warily. “Ya know, like you’re not supposed to do it before you’re married…?” “Uh, well, how is that different from what’s taught in the United States?” I asked in return. “Huh?” she replied. “I’ve never heard of that!” I realized then that the barbarians were well within the gates and that I should be packing my bags again.

    Japanese are probably less prudish about sex but they are often more prudent. They have less abortions and less premarital babies. There is gay marriage in some places but homosexuality has never been the all important deal that it has been here. What is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is…. so I hear.

    maybe Japanese are too prudent about sex

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  7. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    Boney Cole (View Comment):Yes, that is extremely rare. I do not recall that word ever being used in my presence even in a sermon at a Catholic service. The only rarely is the positive attribute of chastity mentioned. I have never heard Hanson mention his personal approach to religion or God. I am most often in agreement with him, and he has provided insights that I otherwise would not have encountered. I wish he was a traditional Catholic, and I could credit his wisdom to his religion. His wisdom seems to have derived from a deep respect for his parents (and their forbearers), and his study of the classics. I would like to read an explanation from him on the basis of his thought. A renowned secular intellectual in the 21sr century who can use t word “fornicate” unironically is rare indeed

    Many decades ago, I heard a brother of mine jauntily singing along with the words “Why Don’t We Do it in the Road?” Knowing him to be a staunch defender of Christian sexual morality, the Zeitgeist be damned, I asked him how he could be implying approval for what struck me as a thoroughly amoral song. “Oh,” he replied, “it’s quite all right for a married couple to do it in the road!” I didn’t further inquire as to whether it should be one’s own road…Some years after that I was teaching a course in comparative Japanese and American culture at a small liberal arts college in America, when one of the better students, the daughter of an English professor, posed the question: “Is it true that the Japanese have, like, this totally weird attitude about sex?” “Could you be a little more specific?” I asked warily. “Ya know, like you’re not supposed to do it before you’re married…?” “Uh, well, how is that different from what’s taught in the United States?” I asked in return. “Huh?” she replied. “I’ve never heard of that!” I realized then that the barbarians were well within the gates and that I should be packing my bags again.

    Japanese are probably less prudish about sex but they are often more prudent. They have less abortions and less premarital babies. There is gay marriage in some places but homosexuality has never been the all important deal that it has been here. What is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is…. so I hear.

    maybe Japanese are too prudent about sex

    I think the Japanese are doing great. I only want high I.Q. successful married people to breed. We would be doing fine with five billion people on Earth if they got their stuff together.

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  8. MISTER BITCOIN Member
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    @MISTERBITCOIN

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    Boney Cole (View Comment):Yes, that is extremely rare. I do not recall that word ever being used in my presence even in a sermon at a Catholic service. The only rarely is the positive attribute of chastity mentioned. I have never heard Hanson mention his personal approach to religion or God. I am most often in agreement with him, and he has provided insights that I otherwise would not have encountered. I wish he was a traditional Catholic, and I could credit his wisdom to his religion. His wisdom seems to have derived from a deep respect for his parents (and their forbearers), and his study of the classics. I would like to read an explanation from him on the basis of his thought. A renowned secular intellectual in the 21sr century who can use t word “fornicate” unironically is rare indeed

    Many decades ago, I heard a brother of mine jauntily singing along with the words “Why Don’t We Do it in the Road?” Knowing him to be a staunch defender of Christian sexual morality, the Zeitgeist be damned, I asked him how he could be implying approval for what struck me as a thoroughly amoral song. “Oh,” he replied, “it’s quite all right for a married couple to do it in the road!” I didn’t further inquire as to whether it should be one’s own road…Some years after that I was teaching a course in comparative Japanese and American culture at a small liberal arts college in America, when one of the better students, the daughter of an English professor, posed the question: “Is it true that the Japanese have, like, this totally weird attitude about sex?” “Could you be a little more specific?” I asked warily. “Ya know, like you’re not supposed to do it before you’re married…?” “Uh, well, how is that different from what’s taught in the United States?” I asked in return. “Huh?” she replied. “I’ve never heard of that!” I realized then that the barbarians were well within the gates and that I should be packing my bags again.

    Japanese are probably less prudish about sex but they are often more prudent. They have less abortions and less premarital babies. There is gay marriage in some places but homosexuality has never been the all important deal that it has been here. What is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is…. so I hear.

    maybe Japanese are too prudent about sex

    I think the Japanese are doing great. I only want high I.Q. successful married people to breed. We would be doing fine with five billion people on Earth if they got their stuff together.

    >>> what is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is?  maybe Japanese are not having enough sex

     

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  9. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    >>> what is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is? maybe Japanese are not having enough sex

    The Japanese are decreasing in population and I think that’s neither good nor bad. I want procreation to be selective. 

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    >>> what is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is? maybe Japanese are not having enough sex

    The Japanese are decreasing in population and I think that’s neither good nor bad. I want procreation to be selective.

    You can’t have a decreasing population in a non-libertarian country with unfunded retirement systems. Furthermore, GDP is a function of population growth and productivity. I think it’s 2/3 and 1/3 respectively. This is why everybody is printing money.

    It’s just laughable when you think that Medicare, the pill, abortion, and feminism came in at the same time. I think around 1974 both parties knew that Medicare was an actuarial disaster by 10oX.

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  11. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    >>> what is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is? maybe Japanese are not having enough sex

    The Japanese are decreasing in population and I think that’s neither good nor bad. I want procreation to be selective.

    You can’t have a decreasing population in a non-libertarian country with unfunded retirement systems. Furthermore, GDP is a function of population growth and productivity. I think it’s 2/3 and 1/3 respectively. This is why everybody is printing money.

    It’s just laughable when you think that Medicare, the pill, abortion, and feminism came in at the same time. I think around 1974 both parties knew that Medicare was an actuarial disaster by 10oX.

    Cultures and ethnic groups that don’t believe in reproducing will be replaced by those that do.

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  12. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
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    Taras (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    >>> what is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is? maybe Japanese are not having enough sex

    The Japanese are decreasing in population and I think that’s neither good nor bad. I want procreation to be selective.

    You can’t have a decreasing population in a non-libertarian country with unfunded retirement systems. Furthermore, GDP is a function of population growth and productivity. I think it’s 2/3 and 1/3 respectively. This is why everybody is printing money.

    It’s just laughable when you think that Medicare, the pill, abortion, and feminism came in at the same time. I think around 1974 both parties knew that Medicare was an actuarial disaster by 10oX.

    Cultures and ethnic groups that don’t believe in reproducing will be replaced by those that do.

    What should be done?  

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  13. Jim Beck Member
    Jim Beck
    @JimBeck

    Morning Rufus,

    Why should anything be done?  If a culture is too busy to have children, or hires out child rearing to others, or hires out discipling their children to others, and doesn’t reproduce at replacement levels and the children they do have are as self centered as their parents, then that culture will wither, and then in the historic Darwinian fashion that culture will be replaced by a culture that has a view of the future where children are desired and may thrive.

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  14. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    >>> what is odd is how bizarre and horrifying their porn is? maybe Japanese are not having enough sex

    The Japanese are decreasing in population and I think that’s neither good nor bad. I want procreation to be selective.

    You can’t have a decreasing population in a non-libertarian country with unfunded retirement systems. Furthermore, GDP is a function of population growth and productivity. I think it’s 2/3 and 1/3 respectively. This is why everybody is printing money.

    It’s just laughable when you think that Medicare, the pill, abortion, and feminism came in at the same time. I think around 1974 both parties knew that Medicare was an actuarial disaster by 10oX.

    Cultures and ethnic groups that don’t believe in reproducing will be replaced by those that do.

    What should be done?

    Slow down immigration to give yourself more time to figure something out.  (Regardless of race, color, or creed, people who walk across your border are the most undesirable immigrants.)

    Then, perhaps:  encourage family formation (e.g., instead of abortion); reduce the economic burden of child rearing; encourage religion instead of suppressing it (because religious people have more kids).

    Encourage surrogate motherhood, so smart women have babies as well as careers.

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  15. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    They have to figure out policies to get people to procreate more ***taxpayers***. The structure of our government requires it. That is the only way to look at it, in my opinion.

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  16. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    They can keep jacking up taxes and making you pay them at gunpoint. They can create inflation at gunpoint. They can change Medicare and Social Security to be redistribution without telling you. They can underfund them and then you don’t have any other options. But they can’t make you procreate more taxpayers. Really great system.

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