In our latest—and longest—episode sponsored by Keeps, we discuss Christopher Nolan’s much-anticipated time-travel thriller Tenet. JVL has questions like “Is Christopher Nolan overrated?” Vic has questions like “What the hell is going on?” And Sonny claims to have answers as well as a mind-blowing reveal. Plus tennis talk and eating and drinking in bathrooms!

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  1. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Ricochet Audio Network:In our latest—and longest—episode sponsored by Keeps, we discuss Christopher Nolan’s much-anticipated time-travel thriller Tenet. JVL has questions like “Is Christopher Nolan overrated?” Vic has questions like “What the hell is going on?” And Sonny claims to have answers as well as a mind-blowing reveal. Plus tennis talk and eating and drinking in bathrooms!

    “Michael Jordan, The Batman, and Cassette Tapes!” might actually be longer, depending on how much intro clip there is.  But I’m not going to worry about it.

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  2. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Counterpoint:  freakishly tall people tend to have health issues, such as with Andre The Giant.  But then again, so do freakishly short people…

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  3. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    I may wait until after I see the movie to listen to this podcast.  (Assuming Cuomo ever opens the theaters in New York State.)

    However, I wonder if Nolan is making the same mistake the director of John Carter did: “I’m so famous, I don’t need to cast a star!”

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  4. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Taras (View Comment):

    I may wait until after I see the movie to listen to this podcast. (Assuming Cuomo ever opens the theaters in New York State.)

    However, I wonder if Nolan is making the same mistake the director of John Carter did: “I’m so famous, I don’t need to cast a star!”

    Hmm, well I’m not going to listen to it all again to make sure, but I don’t remember there being anything like “spoilers.”  Not that matter, anyway.  At most it might just convince not to bother seeing it, assuming the theaters ever do re-open.

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  5. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    I may wait until after I see the movie to listen to this podcast. (Assuming Cuomo ever opens the theaters in New York State.)

    However, I wonder if Nolan is making the same mistake the director of John Carter did: “I’m so famous, I don’t need to cast a star!”

    Hmm, well I’m not going to listen to it all again to make sure, but I don’t remember there being anything like “spoilers.” Not that matter, anyway. At most it might just convince not to bother seeing it, assuming the theaters ever do re-open.

    The guys have said in the past that spoilers are to be assumed.

    On the other hand, if this is a Christopher Nolan time travel movie, then spoilers may be the only way you ever figure out what’s going on!

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  6. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):

    I may wait until after I see the movie to listen to this podcast. (Assuming Cuomo ever opens the theaters in New York State.)

    However, I wonder if Nolan is making the same mistake the director of John Carter did: “I’m so famous, I don’t need to cast a star!”

    Hmm, well I’m not going to listen to it all again to make sure, but I don’t remember there being anything like “spoilers.” Not that matter, anyway. At most it might just convince not to bother seeing it, assuming the theaters ever do re-open.

    The guys have said in the past that spoilers are to be assumed.

    On the other hand, if this is a Christopher Nolan time travel movie, then spoilers may be the only way you ever figure out what’s going on!

    Well yes, but I think that was part of the point of their review etc: even with spoilers it was still an incomprehensible mess.

    One of them said they ordered a copy of the script, which wasn’t available quite yet, because so much of the dialogue was impossible to make out.

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  7. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    If that line judge had had an adam’s apple, would he have laughed off the tennis ball hit?

     

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  8. Kevin Member
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    I saw this movie with three teenage boys, all understood it the first time through.  For two of them it is their new favorite movie.  I thought the movie was great.  The dialogue sound was a little hard to understand.

    The fan theory about the son being Neil is … probably wrong.  Remember this is not a movie about time travel.  It is a movie about time reversal.  For Neil to appear at the same time as his childhood self he would have to grow then travel backwards in time for the same length.  For example, if I want to travel back in time to see my 10 year old self and start when I am 20 I will be 30 at the time I am there.  I dont think the time works out for Neil because he is about 30 looking so he would have had to do nothing but time reversal since his teens to make it work since the child looks about 5-7.   That means he would have been recruiting in his teens….maybe but I dont think the time works.

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  9. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    Nine people in the theater and JVL is worried that six of them weren’t wearing masks? Were they sitting within six feet of him?  Does he even know what he’s afraid of anymore?

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  10. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    Nine people in the theater and JVL is worried that six of them weren’t wearing masks? Were they sitting within six feet of him? Does he even know what he’s afraid of anymore?

    Yes.

    He’s afraid of Trump.

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  11. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Note to the Georgetown Cronies:

    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Universities, where wisdom and knowledge dies in critical race theory.

    I saw the post embedded below, while I haven’t fact checked it, believe it to be absolutely true. It explains why most Liberal Arts educated students hate America, and feel there is systemic racism. Simple, it is what they indoctrinated with:

    Here’s a snapshot of what kids learn in Black Studies at Georgetown. A constant reinforcement of victim status. No wonder blacks hate whites. These courses prepare them for career working in your company’s HR department.

    AFAM-210 Black Power and Theology of Liberation

    GOVT-240 Politics of Inequality

    GOVT-245 Race, Ethnicity, and Nation

    JUPS-260 Violence, Gender, and Human Rights

    SOCI-142 Black Death: Slavery to Michael Brown

    SOCI-147 New Perspectives on Black Ghetto Poor

    AFAM-206 Race and Racism in American Culture

    ANTH-180 Urban Legends, Moral Panics

    HIST-387 Black Radicalism

    ENGL-262 Question of Equality

     

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  12. Kevin Member
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    Taras (View Comment):

    If that line judge had had an adam’s apple, would he have laughed off the tennis ball hit?

     

    Obviously.  And one of the greats would have had another win.  But we are where we are.

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  13. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Tenet was duller than I expected.  I started checking my wristwatch at about the one hour mark, and checked it many times thereafter.

    The first half of the film is basically a heist followed by a heist followed by another heist; the second half, action scene followed by action scene, sometimes run in “reverse time”.

    We don’t really get to meet any of the characters, except Kenneth Branagh’s laughable portrait of a Russian arms dealer who literally wants to destroy the world, or maybe the universe:  the film isn’t clear.

    John David Washington is watchable, even if we never find out what makes his character tick. When he jeopardizes his mission to save the world (or maybe the universe) to save the arms dealer’s wife (Elizabeth Debicki) instead, it just seems like an exercise in Hollywood movie clichés.  And Robert Pattinson, as his sidekick, is deeply boring.

     

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  14. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    Anyone heard if/when the guys will be back? It’s been more than a month…

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  15. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Anyone heard if/when the guys will be back? It’s been more than a month…

    I’m wondering too.  GLoP also took almost a month off, but they have a new one out today.  Of course, Jonah is  being Jonah again…  “MAGA Barbie,” my @ss…

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  16. kylez Member
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    @kylez

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Anyone heard if/when the guys will be back? It’s been more than a month…

    And here we are a week later still wondering. 

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  17. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    kylez (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Anyone heard if/when the guys will be back? It’s been more than a month…

    And here we are a week later still wondering.

    I suppose there are ways to contact the guys to ask, aside from Ricochet where they don’t actually seem to spend any time.  But I don’t know what they are.  I certainly wouldn’t join The Bulwank just to try and get a message to JVL.

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  18. Kevin Member
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).  

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left.  Sad.

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  19. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Kevin (View Comment):

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left. Sad.

    There have been rumors that they’re quitting after the next show (specifically Vic).

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  20. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left. Sad.

    There have been rumors that they’re quitting after the next show (specifically Vic).

    😭😭😭

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  21. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left. Sad.

    There have been rumors that they’re quitting after the next show (specifically Vic).

    What next show?  It’s been over 2 months already.

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  22. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left. Sad.

    There have been rumors that they’re quitting after the next show (specifically Vic).

    What next show? It’s been over 2 months already.

    https://twitter.com/victorinomatus/status/1326703992123101184?s=21

     

     

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  23. kedavis Member
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left. Sad.

    There have been rumors that they’re quitting after the next show (specifically Vic).

    What next show? It’s been over 2 months already.

    https://twitter.com/victorinomatus/status/1326703992123101184?s=21

    Well of course, I don’t follow twitter.

    I was amused by the one comment asking if we’re now expected to subscribe to the Sub-Bulwark.  The Bulwark is already Sub.

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  24. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    I looked over Sonny Bunch’s twitter and could not see anything about it but haven’t spent enough time (and he converted to the Bulwork quick – wow).

    With GLOP being a political nightmare (which hopefully will end when they get to celebrate Biden win and bask in his decorum) this was the only great podcast left. Sad.

    There have been rumors that they’re quitting after the next show (specifically Vic).

    What next show? It’s been over 2 months already.

    https://twitter.com/victorinomatus/status/1326703992123101184?s=21

     

     

    Dammit.

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  25. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    Eh, it had a good run, but I already don’t miss it.

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