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  1. filmklassik Member

    As I feared: None of these guys — not one of them — deigned to talk about the fact that this is yet another “woke” Hollywood comedy, complete with trendy, left-wing, “woke” messaging.

    Or maybe the boys of the Sub-Beacon are so “woke” themselves they didn’t notice. (Likely)

    They noticed the hell out of all the product placement in the film, but not the “woke” messaging.

    Kind of amazing, actually.

    Now, I’m no fan of the (mostly vile) Breitbart site, but its critic John Nolte is a true talent, and a spot-on observer of the cultural scene, and he had this to say about STUBER:

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/07/14/toxic-masculinity-comedy-stuber-dies-at-box-office/amp/

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    • July 18, 2019, at 10:01 AM PDT
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  2. kedavis Member

    Try Weed Eater, guys. Founded in 1971, as it happens.

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    • July 18, 2019, at 11:30 AM PDT
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  3. Texmoor Coolidge

    Wow, top 5 buddy cop movies is hard to rank because there are so many good ones.

    Die Hard 3 counts to me though Die Hard 1 is the best Xmas movie, period.

    Lethal Weapon 1 > 2 though LW2 has the best one liner. I always read diplomatic immunity with a South African accent just because.

    Great ones left out of the discussion:

    Bad Boys 1&2 – over the top 90’s version
    Point Break – surfing version
    Tango & Cash – over the top 80’s version
    Men In Black – SciFi version
    Hot Fuzz – Brit satire version
    Midnight Run – mobster version
    Turner & Hooch – dog version
    The Other Guys – Will Farrel satire version

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    • July 18, 2019, at 1:04 PM PDT
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  4. filmklassik Member

    Texmoor (View Comment):

    Wow, top 5 buddy cop movies is hard to rank because there are so many good ones.

    Die Hard 3 counts to me though Die Hard 1 is the best Xmas movie, period.

    Lethal Weapon 1 > 2 though LW2 has the best one liner. I always read diplomatic immunity with a South African accent just because.

    Great ones left out of the discussion:

    Bad Boys 1&2 – over the top 90’s version
    Point Break – surfing version
    Tango & Cash – over the top 80’s version
    Men In Black – SciFi version
    Hot Fuzz – Brit satire version
    Midnight Run – mobster version
    Turner & Hooch – dog version
    The Other Guys – Will Farrel satire version

    Forget, for the moment, just how friggin’ weird it is that our intrepid hosts failed to comment on (and possibly even notice!) the insipid “woke” messaging that infected the recent “woke” travesty STUBER. “Woke.” That’s bad enough. But isn’t it weird, too, that nobody (even on this thread!) could offer as a “favorite” in the buddy cop genre any film that pre-dates the original LETHAL WEAPON?

    I am not just thinking of the messy and overrated FREEBIE AND THE BEAN (**) — but also Peter Hyams’s very good BUSTING (***) and RUNNING SCARED (***), and arguably the greatest buddy cop movie of all time, Walter Hill’s 48 HOURS (****).

    Nary a mention of these movies — until now. Weird.

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    • July 18, 2019, at 1:37 PM PDT
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  5. kedavis Member

    And what about the Beverly Hills Cop movies?

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    • July 18, 2019, at 8:31 PM PDT
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  6. Taras Coolidge

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    As I feared: None of these guys — not one of them — deigned to talk about the fact that this is yet another “woke” Hollywood comedy, complete with trendy, left-wing, “woke” messaging.

    Or maybe the boys of the Sub-Beacon are so “woke” themselves they didn’t notice. (Likely)

    They noticed the hell out of all the product placement in the film, but not the “woke” messaging.

    Kind of amazing, actually.

    Now, I’m no fan of the (mostly vile) Breitbart site, but its critic John Nolte is a true talent, and a spot-on observer of the cultural scene, and he had this to say about STUBER:

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/07/14/toxic-masculinity-comedy-stuber-dies-at-box-office/amp/

    Nolte didn’t see the movie. He’s actually reviewing some comments the stars made in interviews, and an article about the marketing of the movie. 

    As it happens, I saw the movie a couple of days ago. Dave Bautista’s character is hypermasculine, and his hypermasculinity is presented positively throughout. In fact, it rubs off on the wimpy, metrosexual Uber driver (Kumail Nanjiani) he coerces into being, in effect, his partner.

    The film’s theme is a man’s responsibility to protect women. In the prologue, we see Bautista lose his partner (Karen Gillan, so notable as the cyborg in Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers) to an Asian drug dealer’s bullet. When the film picks up the story six months later he, disconsolate, is still obsessively pursuing every lead to her killer. He gets a critical tip at the worst possible time: he’s just had a much-needed Lasik operation and is nearly blind.

    It’s after he inevitably crashes his car that he orders an Uber and dragoons the driver to be his eyes. And in the end, when another woman is about to be killed, the Uber driver steps up in the most chivalrous way. 

    It is, perhaps, telling that the stars felt the necessity to misrepresent the nature of the film in interviews. 

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    • July 19, 2019, at 12:25 AM PDT
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  7. filmklassik Member

    Taras (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    As I feared: None of these guys — not one of them — deigned to talk about the fact that this is yet another “woke” Hollywood comedy, complete with trendy, left-wing, “woke” messaging.

    Or maybe the boys of the Sub-Beacon are so “woke” themselves they didn’t notice. (Likely)

    They noticed the hell out of all the product placement in the film, but not the “woke” messaging.

    Kind of amazing, actually.

    Now, I’m no fan of the (mostly vile) Breitbart site, but its critic John Nolte is a true talent, and a spot-on observer of the cultural scene, and he had this to say about STUBER:

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/07/14/toxic-masculinity-comedy-stuber-dies-at-box-office/amp/

    Nolte didn’t see the movie. He’s actually reviewing some comments the stars made in interviews, and an article about the marketing of the movie.

    As it happens, I saw the movie a couple of days ago. Dave Bautista’s character is hypermasculine, and his hypermasculinity is presented positively throughout. In fact, it rubs off on the wimpy, metrosexual Uber driver (Kumail Nanjiani) he coerces into being, in effect, his partner.

    The film’s theme is a man’s responsibility to protect women. In the prologue, we see Bautista lose his partner (Karen Gillan, so notable as the cyborg in Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers) to an Asian drug dealer’s bullet. When the film picks up the story six months later he, disconsolate, is still obsessively pursuing every lead to her killer. He gets a critical tip at the worst possible time: he’s just had a much-needed Lasik operation and is nearly blind.

    It’s after he inevitably crashes his car that he orders an Uber and dragoons the driver to be his eyes. And in the end, when another woman is about to be killed, the Uber driver steps up in the most chivalrous way.

    It is, perhaps, telling that the stars felt the necessity to misrepresent the nature of the film in interviews.

    Saw the top of your post and was about to link to some interviews I’ve seen with the stars, then got to the end and saw you were way ahead of me.

    The theme of the undying necessity for chivalry is indeed worthy. If the movie is really as you describe, I am A) glad it got made and released by a major studio and B) dismayed it’s not doing better.

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    • July 19, 2019, at 11:01 AM PDT
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  8. kedavis Member

    If it’s being described as being AGAINST “toxic masculinity,” that could be why it’s not doing well. Who wants to go see a movie that supposedly (according to media figures etc who wouldn’t dare be honest about it) bashes the audience most likely to enjoy it?

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    • July 19, 2019, at 2:04 PM PDT
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