In this latest episode of the Sub-Beacon, we discuss the Amazon Prime Holocaust revenge series Hunters—in bad taste or just derivative? Sonny and JVL talk about the impact of the Corona virus on the film industry. Vic and JVL felt old returning to Georgetown. Plus a review of the Union and Penn Station Acela lounges!

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Who was tapping on their microphone, or knocking at someone’s door, or banging old tobacco out of their pipe just before 45 minutes?

    Stop It.

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  2. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    Amazing the sacred spot the Holocaust has in America.  We are still making movies about concentration camps that were not filled with Americans, but mostly Germans, and killing the villains in this story.  A testament to Jewish influence on our culture.  And is it right to chase down 80 yo women who participated and murder them?   Most the participants would have been people who loved their country and thought there were good reasons for Germany to do what they did.  Thats a testament to the lack of forgiveness in Jewish culture as opposed to Christianity.  Its gross for a Christian culture to obsess and fantasize about murdering old men and women as “justice” for their crimes.  

    So a thought experiment.  America has as much connection to the Holodomor as the Holocaust and think how insane it would sound if we were making movies about tracking down the Communists involved and murdering them.  Or China, or Cambodia.  The obsession with the Holocaust and Nazis is bizarre.  Its a Jewish obsession, it should not be an American one.  

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  3. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    Kevin (View Comment):

    Amazing the sacred spot the Holocaust has in America. We are still making movies about concentration camps that were not filled with Americans, but mostly Germans, and killing the villains in this story. A testament to Jewish influence on our culture. And is it right to chase down 80 yo women who participated and murder them? Most the participants would have been people who loved their country and thought there were good reasons for Germany to do what they did. Thats a testament to the lack of forgiveness in Jewish culture as opposed to Christianity. Its gross for a Christian culture to obsess and fantasize about murdering old men and women as “justice” for their crimes.

    So a thought experiment. America has as much connection to the Holodomor as the Holocaust and think how insane it would sound if we were making movies about tracking down the Communists involved and murdering them. Or China, or Cambodia. The obsession with the Holocaust and Nazis is bizarre. Its a Jewish obsession, it should not be an American one.

    The lesson of the Holocaust for future mass murderers appears to be:  don’t go after any group with so many writers and intellectuals!  It occasionally annoys me that all the other 20th century genocides get short shrift by comparison.

    On the other hand, I think the Holocaust may have been uniquely — what is the word?  Baroque?  Grotesque?  

    For example, Stalin’s motives in the Holodomor were understandable:  he wanted to destroy Ukrainian nationalism, and sell grain overseas for hard currency; perfectly rational, if human life means nothing to you.

    But then there is Hitler and the Holocaust:  he was choosing to kill people who would have been useful for his war effort, apparently because, in his aberrant worldview, even Jewish women and children were somehow a threat to the Aryan race.

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  4. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    P.S.:  The Holocaust survivor on Hogan’s Heroes was Robert Clary.  John Banner and Werner Klemperer were Jewish refugees.

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  5. Miffed White Male Member
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    Taras (View Comment):
    On the other hand, I think the Holocaust may have been uniquely — what is the word? Baroque? Grotesque?

    I think it was the industrial efficiency of the effort.  It’s one thing to engineer a famine, or send a bunch of people out with guns and machetes (Armenia/Rwanda).

    It’s another thing entirely to set up camps and crematoria, transport the victims, gas them and dispose of the bodies.

     If the Holocaust had been all Babi Yar and not Auschwitz, it would be probably be looked at more like the others.

     

     

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  6. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    On the other hand, I think the Holocaust may have been uniquely — what is the word? Baroque? Grotesque?

    I think it was the industrial efficiency of the effort. It’s one thing to engineer a famine, or send a bunch of people out with guns and machetes (Armenia/Rwanda).

    It’s another thing entirely to set up camps and crematoria, transport the victims, gas them and dispose of the bodies.

    If the Holocaust had been all Babi Yar and not Auschwitz, it would be probably be looked at more like the others.

     

     

    I’ve read that when the Nazis tried to do it the old-fashioned way, their soldiers — children of a modern Christian society with only a thin veneer of Naziism — began to fall apart psychologically.

    So they set up that expensive and wasteful system wherein they could economize on the limited supply of psychopaths, people born without empathy for other human beings, who could carry out the industrial murder of millions and remain unaffected.

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