Welcome to the Harvard Lunch Club Political Podcast for February 14, 2017 it’s the Stephen Miller, Be Our Valentine edition of the podcast. We are brought to you this week by Harry’s Shave. Two comments: (1) you’ve heard about it, you’ve thought about it, get it now you *will* love it, (2) use the URL harrys.com/Harvard. We are also brought to you by Casper mattresses: with over twenty thousand reviews and over 4.8 out of 5 stars, it is quickly becoming the internet’s favorite mattress. And we are brought to you by The Great Courses Plus. They have over 8,000 video lectures on a wide assortment of topics. Learn something new today.

This week on the podcast we discuss the poster child for amnesty, the golden nugget sympathy case for open borders, Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos. De Rayos, or as we think of her, mother Guady, has been deported. She is a mother of two American-born children (i.e. anchor babies). She has been in America for 22 years. She came here as a 14 year old looking for a better life. She is doing what she is doing “out of love.” (Where have we heard *that* before??). And she only committed one, almost insignificant felony (identity theft) and she’s reaaaalllly sorry about that. The elitist media Cannot Conceive of why anyone would want the law to be enforced and mother Guady forced to leave. The reaction of the average deplorable is, however, “it’s about time.”

We also discuss the new rock star of the right, Stephen (“Stairway to Heaven”) Miller! Here is another gestalt of epically stark proportions. Todd and I and Ann Coulter think he was phenomenal: courageous, on message and lethally logical. Morning Joe, Mika Brezinski, the Chicago Tribune and the rest of the main stream media were simply apoplectic. If they thought that Trump was kidding about the things he said on the campaign trail, Stephen Miller is helping them to get their heads straight.

Finally, in a bit of a curve, we talk about who we *want* to bring here to the United States of America. We are not, here at the HLC podcast, in spite of appearances to the contrary, at all closed border or “pull up the draw bridges” Americans. What are the criteria for invites to this grand party we call the USA?

We will have, as always, our shower thoughts and our hidden gem this week is Keith Jarrett’s encore piece from his famous Köln concert (side four of the album).

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  1. Profile photo of Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    I found one bit of commentary by Michael a bit disturbing. He referred to NeverTrump people as deranged or some such description while shortly before that he was concerned about the misinformed followers of Clinton and the Left. There was nothing deranged about those of us who rejected Trump. He has more than confirmed several of our fears while, admittedly, proving some not to be justified. Like most who held NeverTrump view, I have come to the belief that he is our president, and he deserves our support, not unconditionally, however, as some of his longtime supporters would like it. I judge him as I judge any political leader, when he is good I fully support him. When he makes inappropriate choices, like the premature release of the Immigration EO, I feel less comfortable with his leadership. The only thing that keeps me in support of him on that latter issue is the absurdity of the judge’s logic and the weakness of the Ninth Circuit’s ruling. Two wrongs, three really, don’t make a right. Trump’s implusivity is definitely not a plus. As to Mr. Miller, I would suggest you take the time to listen to Ben Shapiro’s take on Miller’s presentations. Ben, though not always 100% right, is pretty astute in judging Miller who he has known for some years. It would appear that Miller thinks the way to put out a fire is to drown it in gasoline.

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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):
    I found one bit of commentary by Michael a bit disturbing. He referred to NeverTrump people as deranged or some such description while shortly before that he was concerned about the misinformed followers of Clinton and the Left. There was nothing deranged about those of us who rejected Trump. He has more than confirmed several of our fears while, admittedly, proving some not to be justified. Like most who held NeverTrump view, I have come to the belief that he is our president, and he deserves our support, not unconditionally, however, as some of his longtime supporters would like it. I judge him as I judge any political leader, when he is good I fully support him. When he makes inappropriate choices, like the premature release of the Immigration EO, I feel less comfortable with his leadership. The only thing that keeps me in support of him on that latter issue is the absurdity of the judge’s logic and the weakness of the Ninth Circuit’s ruling. Two wrongs, three really, don’t make a right. Trump’s implusivity is definitely not a plus. As to Mr. Miller, I would suggest you take the time to listen to Ben Shapiro’s take on Miller’s presentations. Ben, though not always 100% right, is pretty astute in judging Miller who he has known for some years. It would appear that Miller thinks the way to put out a fire is to drown it in gasoline.

    Eugene, the term I used, psychological cripple, is not meant to apply to all NeverTrumpers. I do think that the choice was Trump or Hillary, period. And I think that it was irrational to throw one’s vote away elsewhere (unless it wasn’t going to make a difference anyway). But “psychological cripple” is too strong for people who made that error, I think.

    But do you not accept that there are some (conservatives) whose anti-Trump obsession goes beyond reason into a realm of psychological pain? Bill Kristol? Kevin Williamson?

    I read some of there stuff and it reminds me of reading Chomsky. The anger between the lines drowns out the stuff that is in them.

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  3. Profile photo of Eugene Kriegsmann Member

    I have to say that I really don’t like Trump, but I do love this country, and if someone is going to be president, I prefer that it be a Republican of almost any stripe as opposed to a Democrat. Given the outcome of the election, it seems obvious to me that Trump did what no other candidate could have done from the group of 17 we were originally presented with. That doesn’t make him ideal or even good, just the best we could get under the circumstances. Its a bizarre time to live.

    I can’t answer for Kevin Williamson, who I like a great deal, or Bill Kristol for whom I have no particular bent. I think in Kevin’s case, though, that he is a libertarian, doesn’t like Trump, and the fact that Trump was the lesser of so many evils, just didn’t change the equation. I don’t see that as derangement or a mental handicap. I just see it as someone who doesn’t believe in settling for less than he really wants.

    For my part, I just want to stop the bleeding. For years I watched the left experiment in the schools, and in recent years I have seen them move their lunacy into the general population, and I want it stopped. What worries me still about Trump is that if he blows it really badly, it won’t just be him, but the Republican party that pays.

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    • February 14, 2017 at 12:43 pm
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