You Can Re-Count On It

Two weeks after the election and we’re still deep into re-counts, ballot challenges, and other legal machinations. To help us sort it all out, we asked Powerline’s Steve Hayward to sit in for Rob Long and (as John Lennon famously said) give us some truth. And to give us even more truth, we welcome Sean Trende , Real Clear Politic’s Senior Elections Analyst. He takes us through many of the legal cases and we try to get some explanation for much of the polling that turned out to be dead wrong. Then, a gear shift as welcome Antonin Scalia. No, it’s not a supernatural event (talk about burying the lede), Nino (as he likes to be called), is the great jurist’s grandson and he works in the James Madison Program at Princeton and hosts Madison’s Notes,  a terrific new podcast that coincidentally is carried right here on Ricochet. Finally, several of us on this podcast are residents of California. Last week, our Governor Newsom attended a dinner that gave him indigestion. But not for the reasons you might think. And yes, we’ve got, a new Lileks Post of The Week, courtesy of Ricochet member Ekosj. Say that three times fast.

Music from this week’s show: The Bitterest Pill (I Ever Had To Swallow) by The Jam

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Stacey Abrams was an overeducated nobody.

    Nothing I’ve seen from her suggests over-educated. Maybe over-credentialed?

    Someone who reached her Peter Principle level of incompetence much, much earlier in what passes for her “career”?

    • #31
  2. Miffed White Male Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

     

     

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color).  It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon.  (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon.  As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    • #33
  4. J Ro Member
    J Ro
    @JRo

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Stacey Abrams was an overeducated nobody.

    Nothing I’ve seen from her suggests over-educated. Maybe over-credentialed?

    Obviously you missed or have forgotten her ghostwritten essay (“American Leadership Begins at Home: The Global Imperative to Rebuild Governance and Restore Democracy”) in “Foreign Affairs” last May. 

    • #34
  5. Headedwest Coolidge
    Headedwest
    @Headedwest

    J Ro (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Stacey Abrams was an overeducated nobody.

    Nothing I’ve seen from her suggests over-educated. Maybe over-credentialed?

    Obviously you missed or have forgotten her ghostwritten essay (“American Leadership Begins at Home: The Global Imperative to Rebuild Governance and Restore Democracy”) in “Foreign Affairs” last May.

    Oh, dear. Somehow I overlooked those gems of academic achievement.

    • #35
  6. Chris Member
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    @Chris

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color). It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon. (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon. As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    All I know is I want a name when I lose…

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Chris (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color). It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon. (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon. As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    All I know is I want a name when I lose…

    On the other hand, there’s the Deaconess of Detroit…

     

    • #37
  8. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    When you look at Kamala Harris’ is résumé, it’s almost assured she’s going to be a terrible president. Not very smart in critical ways, not that educated, little experience. 

    Plus she’s an authoritarian with no principles.

    • #38
  9. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    The lyric, though, is “drink scotch whisky all night long/and die behind the wheel.” Probably not exactly the best example of what James was going for. Though I suppose it does represent freedom of a sort. I just hope the protagonist hit a tree and not another car or person.

    • #39
  10. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color). It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon. (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon. As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    Does Miffed not know we’re talking about a Steely Dan song here?

    • #40
  11. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    I seem to be piling up the comments here, so one more.

    Let’s not get carried away in slagging The French Laundry. It is an excellent restaurant. Yes, it is very expensive, and no, I wouldn’t want to eat there all of the time, but it is an event. The food is exquisite and the service is elegant and exemplary. Everything is perfectly choreographed throughout the meal, and if you go with good dinner companions the time flies by.  The waitstaff is also the opposite of snooty, being expert about the food and wine but also very personable. When I made a joke about wanting to “smell the bottle cap” of the beer they served me, the waiter returned a few minutes later with the bottle cap on a little silver tray, and patiently answered my questions about whether such an expensive and hard-to-get-reservations-for place has regulars, and what accommodations they make for people with off-menu requests and/or children. (The answers were yes, they have regulars, and they had recently sent a runner to a nearby store to pick up Froot Loops for a child who wasn’t quite ready for anything else on the menu.)  The French Laundry is the crown jewel of Thomas Keller’s restaurants, and one of the best on the planet.  It’s not their fault that Gavin chose it to thumb his nose at the rest of us.

    • #41
  12. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    I seem to be piling up the comments here, so one more.

    Let’s not get carried away in slagging The French Laundry. It is an excellent restaurant. Yes, it is very expensive, and no, I wouldn’t want to eat there all of the time, but it is an event. The food is exquisite and the service is elegant and exemplary. Everything is perfectly choreographed throughout the meal, and if you go with good dinner companions the time flies by. The waitstaff is also the opposite of snooty, being expert about the food and wine but also very personable. When I made a joke about wanting to “smell the bottle cap” of the beer they served me, the waiter returned a few minutes later with the bottle cap on a little silver tray, and patiently answered my questions about whether such an expensive and hard-to-get-reservations-for place has regulars, and what accommodations they make for people with off-menu requests and/or children. (The answers were yes, they have regulars, and they had recently sent a runner to a nearby store to pick up Froot Loops for a child who wasn’t quite ready for anything else on the menu.) The French Laundry is the crown jewel of Thomas Keller’s restaurants, and one of the best on the planet. It’s not their fault that Gavin chose it to thumb his nose at the rest of us.

    But…

    Uhhh…

    Shouldn’t they just be closed, or something?

    Because if they were open, when everything else is closed (for dine-in, or without masks, etc) then it seems like they were thumbing their collective noses, too.

    • #42
  13. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    When you look at Kamala Harris’ is résumé, it’s almost assured she’s going to be a terrible president. Not very smart in critical ways, not that educated, little experience.

    Plus she’s an authoritarian with no principles.

    Well done. That’s what she is. 

    • #43
  14. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male
    @MiffedWhiteMale

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color). It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon. (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon. As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    Does Miffed not know we’re talking about a Steely Dan song here?

    It was a joke. 

    • #44
  15. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    I seem to be piling up the comments here, so one more.

    Let’s not get carried away in slagging The French Laundry. It is an excellent restaurant. Yes, it is very expensive, and no, I wouldn’t want to eat there all of the time, but it is an event. The food is exquisite and the service is elegant and exemplary. Everything is perfectly choreographed throughout the meal, and if you go with good dinner companions the time flies by. The waitstaff is also the opposite of snooty, being expert about the food and wine but also very personable. When I made a joke about wanting to “smell the bottle cap” of the beer they served me, the waiter returned a few minutes later with the bottle cap on a little silver tray, and patiently answered my questions about whether such an expensive and hard-to-get-reservations-for place has regulars, and what accommodations they make for people with off-menu requests and/or children. (The answers were yes, they have regulars, and they had recently sent a runner to a nearby store to pick up Froot Loops for a child who wasn’t quite ready for anything else on the menu.) The French Laundry is the crown jewel of Thomas Keller’s restaurants, and one of the best on the planet. It’s not their fault that Gavin chose it to thumb his nose at the rest of us.

    But…

    Uhhh…

    Shouldn’t they just be closed, or something?

    Because if they were open, when everything else is closed (for dine-in, or without masks, etc) then it seems like they were thumbing their collective noses, too.

    I haven’t read that they were open “illegally” (I wonder if all of these orders would survive a court challenge,) though I don’t know if having that private dining room stocked that densely with political creeps would’ve passed muster under the order.  The criticism of him wasn’t that he was violating an extant order, but that he told people not to gather in large groups and then did it himself.  In any event, I cut the restaurant some slack because, a) they need the money (Keller has already had to close at least one restaurant during the pandemic) and b) they may not have asked any questions, figuring if Gavin and all of those senior political creeps were there, there must’ve been some carve-out in the restrictions allowing it.  At least their waitstaff made some dough, but I’ll bet all those rich jerks were bad tippers.

    • #45
  16. Archibald Campbell Member
    Archibald Campbell
    @ArchieCampbell

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color). It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon. (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon. As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    Does Miffed not know we’re talking about a Steely Dan song here?

    It was a joke.

    You expect latitude from Steely Dan fans? You haven’t met many Steely Dan fans, then.

    (Also a joke.)

    • #46
  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

    Plural would be Deacons Blue.

    Like Attorneys General.

    Except of course it’s not about Deacons being Blue (color). It’s about the Blues (musically, one would figure) of a Deacon. (Or even several deacons, which could still use the singular form of Deacon. As with houses for deacons, Deacon Houses, not Deacons Houses.)

     

    Does Miffed not know we’re talking about a Steely Dan song here?

    It was a joke.

    You expect latitude from Steely Dan fans? You haven’t met many Steely Dan fans, then.

    (Also a joke.)

    I only expect Latitude from Jimmy Buffet fans.

    (Another joke.)

    • #47
  18. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Sidney Powell said the next day she did provide evidence to Tucker Carlson. Here is some of it. https://rumble.com/vb8ksn-drop-and-roll-how-the-2020-election-was-stolen-from-donald-trump.html

    But she’s not the only one presenting it, Dr. Shiva, Sharyl Attkisson, Dinesh D’Souza, Joe Oltmann this guy: 

    If you want to discuss evidence, how about you try booking some of the people who’ve been out there exposing it, and have been since 11pm on election night, instead of beltway pundits whose disinterest caused them to hoist their white flags after the first volley. 

     

    • #48
  19. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Sharyl Attkisson

    Props for getting the spelling correct!  A lot of people don’t seem to bother.

    • #49
  20. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Sharyl Attkisson

    Props for getting the spelling correct! A lot of people don’t seem to bother.

    It’s a rather tricky one for sure. 

    • #50
  21. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    You can also add Federal Election Commission Chairman, Trey Trainor to the list. 

    • #51
  22. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Or maybe data scientist Sarah Eaglesfield’s 2,000 word report on election fraud & irregularities in Wayne County, Michigan is available to download:https://t.co/ySskhz52UH

    • #52
  23. mildlyo Member
    mildlyo
    @mildlyo

    Loved the description of thimble sized courses at The French Laundry. “Demi-glazed face of Leprechaun” was a particular favorite!

    • #53
  24. Peter Robinson Contributor
    Peter Robinson
    @PeterRobinson

    Archibald Campbell (View Comment):

    I seem to be piling up the comments here, so one more.

    Let’s not get carried away in slagging The French Laundry. It is an excellent restaurant. Yes, it is very expensive, and no, I wouldn’t want to eat there all of the time, but it is an event. The food is exquisite and the service is elegant and exemplary. Everything is perfectly choreographed throughout the meal, and if you go with good dinner companions the time flies by. The waitstaff is also the opposite of snooty, being expert about the food and wine but also very personable. When I made a joke about wanting to “smell the bottle cap” of the beer they served me, the waiter returned a few minutes later with the bottle cap on a little silver tray, and patiently answered my questions about whether such an expensive and hard-to-get-reservations-for place has regulars, and what accommodations they make for people with off-menu requests and/or children. (The answers were yes, they have regulars, and they had recently sent a runner to a nearby store to pick up Froot Loops for a child who wasn’t quite ready for anything else on the menu.) The French Laundry is the crown jewel of Thomas Keller’s restaurants, and one of the best on the planet. It’s not their fault that Gavin chose it to thumb his nose at the rest of us.

    Fair enough, Archibald–and written with a wonderful sense of the telling detail. And you know what? I’m delighted to see that Ricochet has a member who can comment knowledgeably about such a place. We’d always hoped to attract the carriage trade!

    • #54
  25. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
    Biden Pure Demagogue
    @Pseudodionysius

    The French Laundry is the crown jewel

    I think the English monarchy is offended by that metaphor.

    • #55
  26. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    You can’t argue with this, unless you are the local Never Trump attorney. 

     

     

     

    • #56
  27. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    @stevenhayward is such a happy warrior. I always appreciate his relentless good cheer.

    • #57
  28. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    Georgia senate is real easy.

    Will their be mail in ballots sent to everyone allowing for easy vote harvesting?  Yes- democrats win.  No, republicans win.  

    Dominion didnt do anything.  Vote harvesting did everything and is the thing we cannot detect after the election.  Which is why you dont change your democracy for a stupid virus.  

    • #58
  29. MARTIN WORNATH Coolidge
    MARTIN WORNATH
    @ManOfTheWest

    “Recounts” are useless if the pool of ballots have been polluted with fraudulent votes.

    • #59
  30. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    MARTIN WORNATH (View Comment):

    “Recounts” are useless of the pool of ballots have been polluted with fraudulent votes.

    And throwing out that vote – county by county, or the whole state if necessary – doesn’t “disenfranchise” anyone.  They were disenfranchised by the fraudulent votes.  Counting their vote along with the fraudulent ones, doesn’t fix it.

    • #60
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