You Can Re-Count On It

Two weeks after the election and we’re still deep into re-counts, ballot challenges, and other legal machinations. To help us sort it all out, we asked Powerline’s Steve Hayward to sit in for Rob Long and (as John Lennon famously said) give us some truth. And to give us even more truth, we welcome Sean Trende , Real Clear Politic’s Senior Elections Analyst. He takes us through many of the legal cases and we try to get some explanation for much of the polling that turned out to be dead wrong. Then, a gear shift as welcome Antonin Scalia. No, it’s not a supernatural event (talk about burying the lede), Nino (as he likes to be called), is the great jurist’s grandson and he works in the James Madison Program at Princeton and hosts Madison’s Notes, a terrific new podcast that coincidentally is carried right here on Ricochet. Finally, several of us on this podcast are residents of California. Last week, our Governor Newsom attended a dinner that gave him indigestion. But not for the reasons you might think. And yes, we’ve got, a new Lileks Post of The Week, courtesy of Ricochet member Ekosj. Say that three times fast.

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  1. Mark Alexander Lincoln

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the entertainment industry.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over major cities.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the public sector unions.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the universities.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the teachers colleges.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over public education.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over mainstream media.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the legal profession.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the academic journals.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the science community.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the administrative state.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over foreign service.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over intelligence communities.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the Justice Department.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over tech companies.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over the military leadership.

    The GOP slept while the Far Left took over electronic voting.

    The GOP sleeps while the Far Left takes over major police departments.

    The GOP sleeps while the Far Left takes over prosecutor offices.

    The GOP sleeps while the Far Left takes over non-profit organizations, particular with George Soros money.

    The GOP sleeps while the Far Left destroys small businesses with lockdowns.

    The GOP sleeps while the Far Left destroys American cultural connections across the board.

    The GOP sleeps while the Far Left lies about voter fraud on a massive scale.

    The GOP sleeps.

    As do so many whose living relies on words… Please try to stay awake… Please… (Peter is struggling to stay awake, and seems to understand that Sidney Powell is NOT Adam Schiff… )

    This is not business as usual… we are at a critical turning point… The mainstream media is not just being their usual selves… they have transformed into something properly described as evil…

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    • November 20, 2020, at 3:38 PM PST
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  2. Biden Pure Demagogue Coolidge
    Biden Pure Demagogue Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

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    • November 20, 2020, at 4:38 PM PST
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  3. kedavis Member

    Biden Pure Demagogue (View Comment):

    I’m getting dangerously close to actually having to join Twitter just to follow Catturd.

    No, no, no, not Twitter! Anything but Twitter!

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    • November 20, 2020, at 5:36 PM PST
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  4. kedavis Member

    Within the first 5 minutes, Peter fumbles an important point/statement, by saying that the “accusation” is that Dominion shifted a couple million votes from Biden to Trump.

    Not an auspicious start.

    And not only did Peter not realize his mistake and correct himself, but at least up to the 14-minute point where I am now, nobody else pointed it out either.

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  5. kedavis Member

    Is Steve Hayward (or maybe it was Sean Trende?) not aware that the Constitution doesn’t say that the state electors are selected by the popular votes of the states? The state legislatures switched to that over time.

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  6. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Is Steve Hayward (or maybe it was Sean Trende?) not aware that the Constitution doesn’t say that the state electors are selected by the popular votes of the states? The state legislatures switched to that over time.

    I don’t think that South Carolina used elections to vote for the electors until after the Civil War.

    Looking at wikipedia, it looks like Delaware did not have a popular vote in 1828 while Delaware, Georgia, Louisiana, New York, South Carolina, and Vermont did not have popular votes in 1824. Perhaps states wanted to change things after the controversial election of 1824.

    It looks like Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Virginia were the only states to use a popular vote for the first election — but this was back before North Carolina and Rhode Island ratified the Constitution and with New York not choosing what to do on time.

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  7. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    The mainstream media is not just being their usual selves… they have transformed into something properly described as evil…

    I don’t think I would usually and seriously use the word evil, but I don’t know what word I would use instead.

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    • November 21, 2020, at 12:04 AM PST
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  8. RufusRJones Member

    Stacey Abrams was an overeducated nobody. The only thing she’s done is be in the state house. Michael Bloomberg gave her $5 million to stay out of the primary. Now she’s the commie organizer from hell. Supposedly, her organization signed up 800,000 people. 

    Then there is this:

    Zuckerberg-Funded ‘Safe Elections’ Project Announces Grants for Georgia Senate Runoff Elections

    Most of Joe Biden’s 221,751 vote margin gain in Georgia, compared to Hillary Clinton’s performance in 2016, came from three metropolitan Atlanta counties that received more than $15 million from the Mark Zuckerberg-funded Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL) “safe elections” project.

    Those three counties — Cobb, Fulton, and Gwinnett–accounted for 168,703 of Biden’s 221,751 vote margin gain, or 76 percent.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/18/zuckerberg-funded-safe-elections-project-announces-grants-georgia-senate-runoff-elections/

    This is what democracy looks like, obviously. 

     

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  9. RufusRJones Member

    @davereaboi had some really good analysis about the Trump legal team and their approach last night on the Buck Sexton show. He’s a lawyer and I thought it was very fair and informed. It was about halfway in. 

    The guy is insanely smart. I don’t get why he isn’t in the media more.

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    • November 21, 2020, at 1:27 AM PST
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  10. RufusRJones Member

    Supposedly, one of the things that is going on with tech oligarchs and so forth is those guys feel guilty about all of the wage deflation and job destruction they are creating. This creates a hell of a lot of value but with an inflationary economy and government it really kills the middle class. They feel guilty about it and they basically want to set up a gated community socialist country so they can keep doing what they are doing. 

    I was really hoping Andrew Wang would highlight this, but it’s obvious to me he’s totally not serious about it. 

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    • November 21, 2020, at 1:41 AM PST
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  11. RufusRJones Member

    Remember how the GOP got slaughtered in California House races in 2018? Never Trump said it was about Trump. The reality is, it was about ballot harvesting. The California GOP got on top of it.

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  12. RufusRJones Member

    When you explain to one of these commie central planners that choo-choo trains and buses have less utility then cars because you can’t haul people and stuff around as easy they have no response.

    Forcing electric cars on us right now, which is what they are doing, how in the hell does this improve anything? The grid is like 5% renewables. In what decade is it going to be 50% renewables? I tried explaining to one of these guys that the easy way to do this would be to decentralized grid with compact nuclear power. People would love it in certain areas.

     

     

     

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  13. RufusRJones Member

    Remind yourself to vote.

     

     

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  14. RufusRJones Member

    Remind yourself to vote.

     


    Stacey Abrams was an overeducated nobody. The only thing she’s done is be in the state house. Michael Bloomberg gave her $5 million to stay out of the primary. Now she’s the commie organizer from hell. Supposedly, her organization signed up 800,000 people. 

    Then there is this:

    Zuckerberg-Funded ‘Safe Elections’ Project Announces Grants for Georgia Senate Runoff Elections

    Most of Joe Biden’s 221,751 vote margin gain in Georgia, compared to Hillary Clinton’s performance in 2016, came from three metropolitan Atlanta counties that received more than $15 million from the Mark Zuckerberg-funded Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL) “safe elections” project.

    Those three counties — Cobb, Fulton, and Gwinnett–accounted for 168,703 of Biden’s 221,751 vote margin gain, or 76 percent.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/18/zuckerberg-funded-safe-elections-project-announces-grants-georgia-senate-runoff-elections/

    This is what democracy looks like, obviously. 


    When you look at Kamala Harris’ is résumé, it’s almost assured she’s going to be a terrible president. Not very smart in critical ways, not that educated, little experience. 

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    • November 21, 2020, at 4:36 AM PST
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  15. KarenZiminski Coolidge

    So what’s the salacious French expression?

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  16. Wolfsheim Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Within the first 5 minutes, Peter fumbles an important point/statement, by saying that the “accusation” is that Dominion shifted a couple million votes from Biden to Trump.

    Not an auspicious start.

    And not only did Peter not realize his mistake and correct himself, but at least up to the 14-minute point where I am now, nobody else pointed it out either.

    Yes, I caught that too, but, please, it surely doesn’t matter, as we knew what he meant. I thought that PR was throughout the podcast in top form.

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  17. Wolfsheim Member

    KarenZiminski (View Comment):

    So what’s the salacious French expression?

    I am a French speaker, and I am a certain that it had nothing to do with la langue française…

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  18. KarenZiminski Coolidge

    Wolfsheim (View Comment):

    KarenZiminski (View Comment):

    So what’s the salacious French expression?

    I am a French speaker, and I am a certain that it had nothing to do with la langue française…

    I bet it was Latin.

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  19. Mark Alexander Lincoln

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, one of the things that is going on with tech oligarchs and so forth is those guys feel guilty about all of the wage deflation and job destruction they are creating. This creates a hell of a lot of value but with an inflationary economy and government it really kills the middle class. They feel guilty about it and they basically want to set up a gated community socialist country so they can keep doing what they are doing.

    I was really hoping Andrew Wang would highlight this, but it’s obvious to me he’s totally not serious about it.

    I’ve worked in Silicon Valley for decades. These guys do NOT feel guilt.

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    • November 21, 2020, at 6:38 AM PST
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  20. RufusRJones Member

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, one of the things that is going on with tech oligarchs and so forth is those guys feel guilty about all of the wage deflation and job destruction they are creating. This creates a hell of a lot of value but with an inflationary economy and government it really kills the middle class. They feel guilty about it and they basically want to set up a gated community socialist country so they can keep doing what they are doing.

    I was really hoping Andrew Wang would highlight this, but it’s obvious to me he’s totally not serious about it.

    I’ve worked in Silicon Valley for decades. These guys do NOT feel guilt.

    So Democrat/socialist power nets out for them, why? They simply just want to push everything around? Not all of them have more money than God.

     

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  21. Wolfsheim Member

    “You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.” Peter Robinson speaks for so many, if not for us all, when he asks “but then what are the facts??” (Excuse me if I am paraphrasing.) It seems to me that there are the following logical possibilities:

    1. There has been massive election fraud, the result of an elitist anti-democratic conspiracy.

    2. There have indeed been instances, perhaps some serious, of election fraud, but after four years of relentless anti-Trump/anti-conservative propaganda, the already fickle and less than well-informed American electorate has narrowly chosen Joe Biden as its next president.

    One should be careful about that for which one wishes. If (1) is true, there may be hope that justice will triumph and that the United States will be spared a Biden (or Harris) presidency. Ah, but then what does that say about the parlous state of American democracy, even if Donald Trump should triumph–and especially if he fails?

    Disappointed as I am, I incline toward (2) and think that all eyes should now be on Georgia.

    Among my numerous American friends, I count three, perhaps four, who are not pleased that Biden will be the next US president. The rest think America will now somehow return “to normal”: Mostly peaceful protests; mostly democratic tyranny.

    ..

     

     

     

     

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  22. I Walton Member

    I didn’t hear a word about the Pennsylvania votes that came in after Republicans were sent home in the middle of the night. Is this not true? Did it not happen? How about other states? They seem to think it was just Republican failure to run a meaningful campaign and not fraud.

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  23. Mark Alexander Lincoln

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Supposedly, one of the things that is going on with tech oligarchs and so forth is those guys feel guilty about all of the wage deflation and job destruction they are creating. This creates a hell of a lot of value but with an inflationary economy and government it really kills the middle class. They feel guilty about it and they basically want to set up a gated community socialist country so they can keep doing what they are doing.

    I was really hoping Andrew Wang would highlight this, but it’s obvious to me he’s totally not serious about it.

    I’ve worked in Silicon Valley for decades. These guys do NOT feel guilt.

    So Democrat/socialist power nets out for them, why? They simply just want to push everything around? Not all of them have more money than God.

     

    The ones we are concerned about do. Google, Facebook, etc. These are the ones I’m talking about. Billionaire status changes you more often than not, especially those in tech. 

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  24. Mark Alexander Lincoln

    Look who is now in charge of PA, WI, MI, and GA

    Circuit Courts have been Reassigned

    Effective November 20, 2020, ordered pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 42

    MI – Brett M. Kavanaugh
    WI – Amy Coney Barrett
    PA – Samuel A. Alito
    GA – Clarence Thomas

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/circuitassignments.aspx

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  25. Mark Alexander Lincoln

    Sidney Powell has proven herself time and again representing Gen. Flynn. Listen to this, and note that she is not only overwhelmingly outraged, but also scared. Witnesses that will need witness protection?

    If her evidence is sound, this is so much worse and bigger than we all could have imagined. In the same way four years ago we had doubts about the deep state or the Obama administration. That turned out to be shockingly worse than imagined.

    But will it make a difference? Never underestimate the power of blackmail and threats to family to force a principled person into doing something corrupt. Let’s hope if she has the goods that there are enough courageous souls to stand against this darkness.

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  26. Michael J Lutz Lincoln

    Apropos the secondary discussion of the effects of self driving cars on freedom & autonomy: You should consider having Matthew Crawford, author of Why We Drive, as a guest. He also wrote the thought provoking Shop Class as Soulcraft.

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  27. Chris Member

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

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  28. kedavis Member

    Monty Python on the prison of owning things:

     

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  29. kedavis Member

    Chris (View Comment):

    Deacon Blue@jameslileks , I know you remembered right after Yeti said it’s a wrap.

    Actually Deacon Blues, plural.

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  30. Headedwest Coolidge

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Stacey Abrams was an overeducated nobody.

    Nothing I’ve seen from her suggests over-educated. Maybe over-credentialed?

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