Speaking Generally: Bill Barr on “One Damn Thing”

Even if it doesn’t normally win popularity contests, we like to keep things candid (but fun!) on the Ricochet podcast. And even if it cost US attorney general Bill Barr some popularity points, we still want to hang out with him! He’s just published his memoir One Damn Thing After Anotherand the gang do what they can to get at all the damn things. Barr proves still-adept at handling himself when things are coming in from all directions.

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  1. EHerring Coolidge
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    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more. But did he really say they don’t go after Antifa/BLM because they’re afraid of being keel hauled for doing so? As in, crucified by the press? (which is kind of hilarious. Supposedly the “white nationalists” are the most dangerous threat this country has ever seen, but the FBI had no fear attempting to entrap some boyos in Michigan)

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of going after them because Antifa/BLM are too “skilled”?

    Both comments are horrifying.

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. (And some states continued to accept “mail-in” ballots etc, for DAYS after!)

    There is a difference between suspecting election fraud took place and knowing election fraud took place. We suspect it and have been seeking the truth ever since . I hope we indict every perp. We don’t need an AG who would do what you wish Barr had done at the time, with the information he had of the time. Then you would have a Merrick Garland, Jim Comey, etc.

    • #31
  2. EHerring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    He said that lots of information COMES in – present tense – on right-wing groups, while very little information COMES in- present tense – on left-wing groups, and the result is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Where did you hear anything about him having even worked to try and change that? Right after that, he did some talking about Supreme Court cases, and that was the end of his interview.

    Just how more intrusive do you want the DOJ to become? Isn’t that what we want less of?

    • #32
  3. EHerring Coolidge
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    Annefy (View Comment):

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    Annefy (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    -snip

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more. But did he really say they don’t go after Antifa/BLM because they’re afraid of being keel hauled for doing so? As in, crucified by the press? (which is kind of hilarious. Supposedly the “white nationalists” are the most dangerous threat this country has ever seen, but the FBI had no fear attempting to entrap some boyos in Michigan)

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of [snip]

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. (And some states continued to accept “mail-in” ballots etc, for DAYS after!)

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    No implication needed. 100% unsuccessful.

    What’s a bigger threat? A group who caused billions of dollars of damage, destruction of businesses and deaths … or a bunch of FBI agents spending their time trying to entrap some Michigan boyos?

    We’re screwed, folks. We’re on our own.

    He didn’t justify that but said the problems in government are too deeply entrenched to be fixed by one president’s administration but said it took three administrations to fix it before.

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  4. Tedley Member
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    I’m with @concretevol and @garyrobbins, I liked the interview.  I’ve heard him at least a couple of other times, each time he comes across as level-headed.  I’m as troubled as anyone by antifa, I cannot fathom the lackadaisical approach to them.  That said, I can see how it may have been tough for him to get much movement among the Trump-hating bureaucrats during the short time-span available.  

    • #34
  5. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    I don’t know which is more disgusting: Bill Barr’s continual reframing of history and facts with regard to Trump and the election, or Peter, James, and Rob’s complete acceptance of it. They’re all detached from reality. Not a single question about all of the documented instances of federal election law violations. Not a single acknowledgement of the dozens of legal cases currently pending about them. Not a single question about Barr’s interference and refusal to investigate the election, the wholesale corruption of the FBI, or any of the prominent non-investigations during his tenure. 

    Trumps greatest accomplishment was in doing more to combat human trafficking than every president since Lincoln combined. How about digging into that story? What have we learned about big money and pedophiles? Any interest in the fact that Hillary was actively spying on Trump during the election and inside the White House? Right under Barr’s nose. 

    Instead Barr, and Peter, and Rob foolishly cling to the establishment narrative that Trump lost the suburban mom vote in complete disregard of all evidence to the contrary, followed by his mind after the election. They have no interest in examining whether or not what he, and I, and everyone else in the true conservative media has been documenting in exhaustive detail ever since the counting stopped in the middle of the night on Nov 3rd.

    Either they’re all cozy residents of the swamp, or hopelessly captured by its gravity.  I’m completely done with this Podcast. 

    • #35
  6. Leslie Watkins Inactive
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    @LeslieWatkins

    In another recent podcast (can’t remember which one), someone told the story of how Trump was grousing about firing Barr when Melania told him he was crazy. That Barr was the best man for the position. Don’t know if it’s apocryphal, but I heartily agree and also believe Barr’s the reason why the Hillary campaign might actually be taken to task over the Steele dossier or at least be publicly revealed as the true colluders in 2016. … Not to mention that Barr’s wife seems as sensible and principled as Melania.

    • #36
  7. EHerring Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    I don’t know which is more disgusting: Bill Barr’s continual reframing of history and facts with regard to Trump and the election, or Peter, James, and Rob’s complete acceptance of it. They’re all detached from reality. Not a single question about all of the documented instances of federal election law violations. Not a single acknowledgement of the dozens of legal cases currently pending about them. Not a single question about Barr’s interference and refusal to investigate the election, the wholesale corruption of the FBI, or any of the prominent non-investigations during his tenure.

    Trumps greatest accomplishment was in doing more to combat human trafficking than every president since Lincoln combined. How about digging into that story? What have we learned about big money and pedophiles? Any interest in the fact that Hillary was actively spying on Trump during the election and inside the White House? Right under Barr’s nose.

    Instead Barr, and Peter, and Rob foolishly cling to the establishment narrative that Trump lost the suburban mom vote in complete disregard of all evidence to the contrary, followed by his mind after the election. They have no interest in examining whether or not what he, and I, and everyone else in the true conservative media has been documenting in exhaustive detail ever since the counting stopped in the middle of the night on Nov 3rd.

    Either they’re all cozy residents of the swamp, or hopelessly captured by its gravity. I’m completely done with this Podcast.

    Much of what we know wasn’t known his last six weeks in office. Nothing could be done to overturn the election. One mistake was making baseless claims early on that caste a dubious light on every claim since. Keep plugging and investigating. It won’t make a difference until it stands up in court and proves Trump won. You have until 2023 to do that. As to Trump’s behavior, if I had worked as hard as he did to get re-elected, I would have been mad, too. As to suburban moms, they have been our weak link for some time. I hope $5 gas squeezes their good life and tender sensibilities. They earned it.

    • #37
  8. EHerring Coolidge
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    Leslie Watkins (View Comment):

    In another recent podcast (can’t remember which one), someone told the story of how Trump was grousing about firing Barr when Melania told him he was crazy. That Barr was the best man for the position. Don’t know if it’s apocryphal, but I heartily agree and also believe Barr’s the reason why the Hillary campaign might actually be taken to task over the Steele dossier or at least be publicly revealed as the true colluders in 2016. … Not to mention that Barr’s wife seems as sensible and principled as Melania.

    Trump is mercurial. Democrats are tyrannical, immoral, and corrupt. Enough people voted for the latter. Too many have sunk that low.

    • #38
  9. Annefy Member
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    EHerring (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    -snip

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more. But did he really say they don’t go after Antifa/BLM because they’re afraid of being keel hauled for doing so? As in, crucified by the press? (which is kind of hilarious. Supposedly the “white nationalists” are the most dangerous threat this country has ever seen, but the FBI had no fear attempting to entrap some boyos in Michigan)

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of [snip]

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. -snip

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    No implication needed. 100% unsuccessful.

    What’s a bigger threat? A group who caused billions of dollars of damage, destruction of businesses and deaths … or a bunch of FBI agents spending their time trying to entrap some Michigan boyos?

    We’re screwed, folks. We’re on our own.

    He didn’t justify that but said the problems in government are too deeply entrenched to be fixed by one president’s administration but said it took three administrations to fix it before.

    I repeat myself – we’re screwed, folks. We’re on our own 

    • #39
  10. EHerring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    -snip

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more.[snip]

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of [snip]

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc.. -snip

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    No implication needed. 100% unsuccessful.

    What’s a bigger threat? A group who caused billions of dollars of damage, destruction of businesses and deaths … or a bunch of FBI agents spending their time trying to entrap some Michigan boyos?

    We’re screwed, folks. We’re on our own.

    He didn’t justify that but said the problems in government are too deeply entrenched to be fixed by one president’s administration but said it took three administrations to fix it before.

    I repeat myself – we’re screwed, folks. We’re on our own

    Sometimes, possibly all the time, governments get too big to fix. The founders were wise to keep it small. We ruined a good thing in the 20th century. Government doesn’t readily give up power peacefully. The founders didn’t expect our good thing to last forever without people pruning the tree of liberty once again. 

    • #40
  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    EHerring (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    That is a true statement. Barr isn’t the problem.

    Barr is one of the problems if, as seems to have been the case, he didn’t raise hell about it and getting it fixed.

    • #41
  12. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    EHerring (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    -snip

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more. But did he really say they don’t go after Antifa/BLM because they’re afraid of being keel hauled for doing so? As in, crucified by the press? (which is kind of hilarious. Supposedly the “white nationalists” are the most dangerous threat this country has ever seen, but the FBI had no fear attempting to entrap some boyos in Michigan)

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of [snip]

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. (And some states continued to accept “mail-in” ballots etc, for DAYS after!)

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    No implication needed. 100% unsuccessful.

    What’s a bigger threat? A group who caused billions of dollars of damage, destruction of businesses and deaths … or a bunch of FBI agents spending their time trying to entrap some Michigan boyos?

    We’re screwed, folks. We’re on our own.

    He didn’t justify that but said the problems in government are too deeply entrenched to be fixed by one president’s administration but said it took three administrations to fix it before.

    A self-serving excuse. Had he chosen to move aggressively, putting the DOJ and FBI on 24/7/365 operational clock for every major investigation, like he actually believed our constitutional republic was at stake, President Trump would have fully backed his play and we would be in a very different place, a much better place. 

    • #42
  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    EHerring (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more. But did he really say they don’t go after Antifa/BLM because they’re afraid of being keel hauled for doing so? As in, crucified by the press? (which is kind of hilarious. Supposedly the “white nationalists” are the most dangerous threat this country has ever seen, but the FBI had no fear attempting to entrap some boyos in Michigan)

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of going after them because Antifa/BLM are too “skilled”?

    Both comments are horrifying.

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. (And some states continued to accept “mail-in” ballots etc, for DAYS after!)

    There is a difference between suspecting election fraud took place and knowing election fraud took place. We suspect it and have been seeking the truth ever since . I hope we indict every perp. We don’t need an AG who would do what you wish Barr had done at the time, with the information he had of the time. Then you would have a Merrick Garland, Jim Comey, etc.

    No, he shouldn’t have said, flat out, that as far as he was concerned at least – and he spoke for the Justice Department too – the election was fine.  That leads to people not bothering to look closer.

    • #43
  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    EHerring (View Comment):

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    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    He said that lots of information COMES in – present tense – on right-wing groups, while very little information COMES in- present tense – on left-wing groups, and the result is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Where did you hear anything about him having even worked to try and change that? Right after that, he did some talking about Supreme Court cases, and that was the end of his interview.

    Just how more intrusive do you want the DOJ to become? Isn’t that what we want less of?

    Fine, then they should stop investigating and prosecuting conservative groups too.  Don’t be one-sided.

    • #44
  15. Steve Fast Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    He said that lots of information COMES in – present tense – on right-wing groups, while very little information COMES in- present tense – on left-wing groups, and the result is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Where did you hear anything about him having even worked to try and change that? Right after that, he did some talking about Supreme Court cases, and that was the end of his interview.

    He described DOJ efforts to identify and prosecute the leaders of Antifa; the arrests that were made; some convictions; and the limited success due to local judges and prosecutors dismissing charges, especially in Portland. And he talked candidly about the difficulties in gathering intelligence on left-wing groups.

    • #45
  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Barr didn’t say he approved of that; in fact, he said that he worked to develop effective tactics against Antifa/BLM rioters, but the implication was that it hadn’t been very successful. He also said that Antifa/BLM used much more effective tactics to cloak the identity of the law breakers and to prevent prosecution by claiming First Amendment protection.

    I think there were simply too many things going wrong in the DOJ and the nation for Barr to focus enough effort on a very difficult problem. Barr did a lot of good, but we need a series of strong AGs to right the ship.

    He said that lots of information COMES in – present tense – on right-wing groups, while very little information COMES in- present tense – on left-wing groups, and the result is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Where did you hear anything about him having even worked to try and change that? Right after that, he did some talking about Supreme Court cases, and that was the end of his interview.

    He described DOJ efforts to identify and prosecute the leaders of Antifa; the arrests that were made; some convictions; and the limited success due to local judges and prosecutors dismissing charges, especially in Portland. And he talked candidly about the difficulties in gathering intelligence on left-wing groups.

    “The difficulties in gathering intelligence on left-wing groups,” as I heard him say it, was that they would get raked over the coals – “keel-hauled” as he put it – by the media etc.  Absolutely no reason to shirk his and their responsibilities.

    • #46
  17. AMD Texas Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    That’s what I heard as well

    • #47
  18. genferei Member
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    Well, the only sensible thing to do when faced with a skilled paramilitary group organized to defeat the ordinary operation of justice is to give up and manufacture some soft targets that the liberal establishment will let you prosecute – amirite?

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    AMD Texas (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    That’s what I heard as well

    That would be after the fact.  But it doesn’t stop them from going in and arresting people wearing black hoodies and masks etc, at the time.  It’s their fear of the media and Democrats – but I repeat myself – that does that.

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    genferei (View Comment):

    Well, the only sensible thing to do when faced with a skilled paramilitary group organized to defeat the ordinary operation of justice is to give up and manufacture some soft targets that the liberal establishment will let you prosecute – amirite?

    Zactly.

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    genferei (View Comment):

    Well, the only sensible thing to do when faced with a skilled paramilitary group organized to defeat the ordinary operation of justice is to give up and manufacture some soft targets that the liberal establishment will let you prosecute – amirite?

    This ^

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  22. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Thanks for the interview, guys!  I thought it was interesting.  I found the discussion of etymology per “general” to be hilarious.  :)

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    Lois Lane (View Comment):

    Thanks for the interview, guys! I thought it was interesting. I found the discussion of etymology per “general” to be hilarious. :)

    I thought most people knew that already, at least in general.  (See what I did?)  But maybe not.

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  24. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Lois Lane (View Comment):

    Thanks for the interview, guys! I thought it was interesting. I found the discussion of etymology per “general” to be hilarious. :)

    I thought most people knew that already, at least in general. (See what I did?) But maybe not.

    No one knows everything, and a good story is always the most interesting the first time you hear it.  But you’re cute.  ;)

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    Lois Lane (View Comment):

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    Lois Lane (View Comment):

    Thanks for the interview, guys! I thought it was interesting. I found the discussion of etymology per “general” to be hilarious. :)

    I thought most people knew that already, at least in general. (See what I did?) But maybe not.

    No one knows everything, and a good story is always the most interesting the first time you hear it.

    I thought that so many people refer to them properly as “attorneys general” was all it really took to know that it referred to general attorneys, not some kind of military-type rank.  But okay.

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  26. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    AG Barr’s record at Justice was a wanton act of betrayal of not just Trump but the American People as well as a gross miscarriage of Justice where he took the “take care” clause and stomped on it, burned it and threw it in the trash.

    His handling of Mueller inquiry was abysmal where he had conflicts of interest as friends of both Mueller, Rosenstein and others. He let that committee run roughshod over the Trump Administration and failed to insure a proper prosecution of the facts.

    His lack of prosecution of AntiFa and BLM set the tone for a two tiered application justice when the Left was given a slap on the wrist while the Right was hammered beyond any reason.

    He let Fauci et al run rampant over the entire country and allowed Fauci to stop Trump’s allocation for use of 60 million doses of HCQ to fight COVID, He has such blood on his hands. A truly evil man.

    Finally, his lack of enforcement of election laws and his willful lack of prosecution of wholesale election fraud personified his outrageous and unlawful reign as AG. He should no only be in jail for his crimes; he really should be tried for High Treason, Convicted and shot by firing squad with preferably something like 50 dum dum bullets to the head.

    Anybody else you want to kill based on political differences? I personally think we should guillotine anyone who hasn’t read two Thomas Sowell books and restart the world anew. 

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  27. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    based on political differences?

    That’s what you got out of that? 

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  28. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

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    based on political differences?

    That’s what you got out of that?

    I do use exaggeration for humorous purposes. I hear it was popular among the Greeks.

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  29. Rōnin Coolidge
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    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more. But did he really say they don’t go after Antifa/BLM because they’re afraid of being keel hauled for doing so? As in, crucified by the press? (which is kind of hilarious. Supposedly the “white nationalists” are the most dangerous threat this country has ever seen, but the FBI had no fear attempting to entrap some boyos in Michigan)

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of going after them because Antifa/BLM are too “skilled”?

    Both comments are horrifying.

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. (And some states continued to accept “mail-in” ballots etc, for DAYS after!)

    SO hard …

    What the hell are we paying these people for? Just to do the easy stuff?

    Equal justice is dead. And with it the Republic.

    The Republic is not dead, but I think if this keeps up some people will be bleeding.  Sooner or latter we will hit critical mass.

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  30. EHerring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    I started out as a hostile listener, but Barr won me over. He was amazingly candid about both the strong and weak points of DJT. I appreciated Barr’s reverence for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century. I am now more willing to hear Barr out about his concerns about the FBI, to my surprise, I am looking forward to reading his book. My overwhelming sense was that Barr is not to be eff’ed with.

    Did you miss the part where he admitted to not going after Antifa/BLM rioters because they were afraid of being called racist?

    That is not what I heard. What I heard was that Antifa members operate as a skilled paramilitary unit with tactics designed to not allow defendants to be identified.

    Start listening again at 53:10. He says it’s about “left” vs “right” but race is part of that too, of course. They don’t get information on groups like Antifa/BLM because they get “keel-hauled” for doing it. By the media, etc.

    I’d really rather not listen. This old heart can’t take much more.[snip]

    Or, according to @ garyrobbins, the DOJ/FBI is simply incapable of going after them because Antifa/BLM are too “skilled”?

    Both comments are horrifying.

    He said that’s why they don’t have information on Antifa/BLM like they do for “conservative” groups, and without information, it’s much harder to identify the participants etc. He should have called BS on that from Day One. That he apparently didn’t, says quite a bit, in my eyes. It’s the same kind of BS as his claim of “no significant election fraud” when there was no possible way anyone could have confidence of that, right after Election Day. (And some states continued to accept “mail-in” ballots etc, for DAYS after!)

    There is a difference between suspecting election fraud took place and knowing election fraud took place. We suspect it and have been seeking the truth ever since . I hope we indict every perp. We don’t need an AG who would do what you wish Barr had done at the time, with the information he had of the time. Then you would have a Merrick Garland, Jim Comey, etc.

    No, he shouldn’t have said, flat out, that as far as he was concerned at least – and he spoke for the Justice Department too – the election was fine. That leads to people not bothering to look closer.

    How much federal snooping do you want in our states during elections? …knowing the Dems like they do…they would abuse that, in fact they already do. 

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