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  1. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Peter Robinson (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Henry, I just don’t see this–I don’t see it at all. The question doesn’t even begin to answer itself. Dictionaries are loose or vague out the definition of “arms,” and in the Heller decision Justice Scalia, hardly a man to waste time on anything self-evident, devoted a good deal of analysis to the definition. Far from answering itself, indeed, the question of what does and doesn’t qualify as “arms” in the Constitutional sense is the very essence of the question.

    Peter,

    In response to your comment, I went and read Scalia’s decision in Heller. Having done so…

    … I’ll concede your point: you are correct that I was entirely too quick to characterize the matter as self-evident and beyond reasonable debate. While I will continue to argue that so-called “assault weapons” are common and unexceptional, and therefore should by Scalia’s reasoning meet the Second Amendment definition of arms, even Scalia left plenty of room for future courts to back away from that interpretation. So I’ll maintain my objection to your original statement, arguing that your use of “clearly” was unjustified — …

    H.

    I think you were correct the first time, it is self-evident.  I think what Scalia was doing was trying to explain WHY it’s self-evident.  Perhaps including – even especially- to people like Peter who may have forgotten (or never learned) a lot of things.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    However, it’s also true – as I’ve commented elsewhere and before – that we’ve gotten to a point where all of this ends up relying on the Supreme Court to be honest.  Which stops as soon as it becomes majority-liberal.  At that point, they could decide that the Second Amendment is – to quote a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode – “a recipe for biscuits.”

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  3. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    This is likely your best all-in-one gun policy expert for the Flagship podcast. He also knows smart people on the anti-gun side, which, trust me, isn’t easy to find.

    Since even – perhaps especially – a “constitutional scholar” can argue the constitution means whatever they think it means, or should mean; from a more practical point of view it might be good to (also) have on John Lott, author of “More Guns, Less Crime.”  For one example.

    It’s also important to note – John Lott may have numbers on this too – how often just DISPLAYING a weapon, not actually USING it, prevents or stops a crime.

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  4. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    This is likely your best all-in-one gun policy expert for the Flagship podcast. He also knows smart people on the anti-gun side, which, trust me, isn’t easy to find.

    Since even – perhaps especially – a “constitutional scholar” can argue the constitution means whatever they think it means, or should mean; from a more practical point of view it might be good to (also) have on John Lott, author of “More Guns, Less Crime.” For one example.

    It’s also important to note – John Lott may have numbers on this too – how often just DISPLAYING a weapon, not actually USING it, prevents or stops a crime.

    What I mean  is, he doesn’t just know of the law,  he knows a lot about all of the rest of it. He’s also friendly with non-stupid, non-fascist gun grabbers, which is incredibly rare.

    John Lott is a big deal because he knows how to break down the social statistics beyond what I did above. A local gun policy expert @mitchpberg  broken this stuff down in several excellent blog posts. The United States has less violence and gun violence than Europe as a practical matter.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Coincidently, I just heard an extension of what I was saying about Bloomberg above. Mark Levin was talking about how the Democrats are threatening the Supreme Court over gun decisions. He talked about it last night and his podcast is free. It’s at the beginning.

    Levin

    On Tuesday’s Mark Levin Show, We have a lawless, un-American Democrat Party and in an act of legislative tyranny, several high profile Democrats have threatened to restructure the US Supreme Court if they don’t curb their rulings on gun control.

    Article referenced by Levin

    Several high-profile Senate Democrats warned the Supreme Court in pointed terms this week that it could face a fundamental restructuring if justices do not take steps to “heal” the court in the near future.

    The ominous and unusual warning was delivered as part of a brief filed Monday in a case related to a New York City gun law. Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., referenced rulings by the court’s conservative majority in claiming it is suffering from some sort of affliction which must be remedied.

    The Democratic senators’ brief was filed in the case of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. City of New York, which dealt with legal limitations on where gun owners could transport their licensed, locked, and unloaded firearms. They are urging the court to stay out of the case brought by the NRA-backed group, claiming that because the city recently changed the law to ease restrictions, the push to the Supreme Court is part of an “industrial-strength influence campaign” to get the conservative majority to rule in favor of gun owners.

    If the court still decides to hear the case, a ruling against New York City could prevent other cities and states from passing similar gun control laws.

    The point I’m making is, you will never, ever, have a straightforward, informed, conversation with a gun grabber. They don’t study anything. They aren’t informed. They don’t care if they make sense. Their only option is raw political power and terrible jurisprudence.

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  6. Matt Bartle Member
    Matt Bartle
    @MattBartle

    Guys, you did it again! You’re killing me.

    I think I made the same comment last time around. This is how a question-and-answer podcast should start: “Welcome to the Ricochet podcast, our first question is…”

    Instead you went over 20 minutes before getting to the first question! Please, if you’re going to answer questions, just answer questions.

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  7. Matt Bartle Member
    Matt Bartle
    @MattBartle

    Oh, and thanks for using my question!

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    I think we enjoy hearing them jaw and be entertaining, too.  But maybe “Question Time” should be separate.

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  9. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    Nothing funnier than hearing Boomers talk about the good old days of the sexual hierarchy of the Greatest Generation.

    That Norman Rockwell young man in 1950s was working hard toward getting married and staring at a life wondering why lonely. What changed?

    Marriage age higher.  You are going to be alone longer.

    The young man in the 1950s didn’t watch all  the girls he might want to marry sleep with 5-25 partners before marriage.  So, the modern 1950s guys expectations of sex and marriage might be different…he might ask why am I the only one not having sex in a listless way the Beach Boys never imagined face with contrast of every girl and most guys having meaningless sex.

    The 1950s young man didn’t grow up with a single mom as his guide to life.  The 1950s single man has community and religion – maybe a brother or uncle.  Who has many of those anymore?

    The 1950s young man didn’t grow up with school K-12 being hostile to his race and gender and blaming him for all of worlds ills.  He didn’t grow up in the froth of feminism telling him he was not only un-needed but evil.  He wasn’t told he needed to be put on drugs to function in school.

    So everything has changed and Boomers asking silly questions about what’s up with the young men today and why don’t they live like their grandfathers sound very dated.

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  10. Kevin Inactive
    Kevin
    @JaredSturgeon

    Robinson thinks that New York and Oklahoma should have different laws on guns.   Thats a great point…sort of like gay marriage, right?

    No compromise on guns and Republicans that compromise are reading twitter instead of their constituents.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Kevin (View Comment):

    Robinson thinks that New York and Oklahoma should have different laws on guns. Thats a great point…sort of like gay marriage, right?

    No compromise on guns and Republicans that compromise are reading twitter instead of their constituents.

    One difference there is that states are allowed- even expected, if not required – to enforce their own different gun laws, but are NOT allowed to enforce their marriage laws such as saying that a same-sex couple legally married in another state is NOT legally married in THEIR state.

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Kevin (View Comment):

    That Norman Rockwell young man in 1950s was working hard toward getting married and staring at a life wondering why lonely. What changed?

    Marriage age higher. You are going to be alone longer.

    The young man in the 1950s didn’t watch all the girls he might want to marry sleep with 5-25 partners before marriage. So, the modern 1950s guys expectations of sex and marriage might be different…he might ask why am I the only one not having sex in a listless way the Beach Boys never imagined face with contrast of every girl and most guys having meaningless sex.

    The 1950s young man didn’t grow up with a single mom as his guide to life. The 1950s single man has community and religion – maybe a brother or uncle. Who has many of those anymore?

    The 1950s young man didn’t grow up with school K-12 being hostile to his race and gender and blaming him for all of worlds ills. He didn’t grow up in the froth of feminism telling him he was not only un-needed but evil. He wasn’t told he needed to be put on drugs to function in school.

    So everything has changed and Boomers asking silly questions about what’s up with the young men today and why don’t they live like their grandfathers sound very dated.

    A 1950s young man was also likely to have several male teachers in school.

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  13. Taras Coolidge
    Taras
    @Taras

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    Robinson thinks that New York and Oklahoma should have different laws on guns. Thats a great point…sort of like gay marriage, right?

    No compromise on guns and Republicans that compromise are reading twitter instead of their constituents.

    One difference there is that states are allowed- even expected, if not required – to enforce their own different gun laws, but are NOT allowed to enforce their marriage laws such as saying that a same-sex couple legally married in another state is NOT legally married in THEIR state.

     I call it a “Vietnamese compromise”:  as you may recall,  in the Vietnam war, the communists already had half the country, so the peace negotiations were  about splitting the remaining half with them, while their half was off the table. 

     Similarly, when we “compromise“ on guns, that merely means we give up half our rights instead of all of them. The anti-gun side is never asked to dial back its restrictions in, say, big cities and blue states. 

     

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  14. Randy Weivoda Moderator
    Randy Weivoda
    @RandyWeivoda

    I’m so far behind in my podcasts I just listened to this one yesterday.  So no 2019 Minnesota State Fair podcast, but maybe 2020.  If @roblong, @peterrobinson, @jameslileks, and @blueyeti find that that doesn’t quite work but would still like to get together at the end of summer next year, y’all could come to the big Black Hills Ricochet Meetup

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Taras (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Kevin (View Comment):

    Robinson thinks that New York and Oklahoma should have different laws on guns. Thats a great point…sort of like gay marriage, right?

    No compromise on guns and Republicans that compromise are reading twitter instead of their constituents.

    One difference there is that states are allowed- even expected, if not required – to enforce their own different gun laws, but are NOT allowed to enforce their marriage laws such as saying that a same-sex couple legally married in another state is NOT legally married in THEIR state.

    I call it a “Vietnamese compromise”: as you may recall, in the Vietnam war, the communists already had half the country, so the peace negotiations were about splitting the remaining half with them, while their half was off the table.

    Similarly, when we “compromise“ on guns, that merely means we give up half our rights instead of all of them. The anti-gun side is never asked to dial back its restrictions in, say, big cities and blue states.

     

    Too often the left’s idea of “compromise” sounds like a home invasion where they start out expecting to kill you and your wife and children, then “compromise” on killing just your wife and half your children.

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  16. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’m so far behind in my podcasts I just listened to this one yesterday. So no 2019 Minnesota State Fair podcast, but maybe 2020. If @roblong, @peterrobinson, @jameslileks, and @blueyeti find that that doesn’t quite work but would still like to get together at the end of summer next year, y’all could come to the big Black Hills Ricochet Meetup.

    We’ll try! Send us the info. 

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  17. Randy Weivoda Moderator
    Randy Weivoda
    @RandyWeivoda

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’m so far behind in my podcasts I just listened to this one yesterday. So no 2019 Minnesota State Fair podcast, but maybe 2020. If @roblong, @peterrobinson, @jameslileks, and @blueyeti find that that doesn’t quite work but would still like to get together at the end of summer next year, y’all could come to the big Black Hills Ricochet Meetup.

    We’ll try! Send us the info.

    It’s all in the above link, Yeti.

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