No More Rush Hours

This week, we’ve got Powerline’s Steve Hayward sitting in for Rob Long (who’s busy being lionized) as we bid a sad so long to Conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh. Then, Ayaan Hirsi Ali stops by to discuss her new book Prey: Immigration, Islam, and the Erosion of Women’s Rights. Also, be sure to visit her new website and subscribe to her new podcast. Also, Ted Cruz defies The Wall and goes to Mexico, a break down of the latest McConnell v. Trump cage match, and one of our hosts is very excited about Perseverance landing safely on Mars and one of them responded with a big “meh.” Care to guess which is which?

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    All I’m saying is, you would think the government could figure out what would fit in the basic research category and it would pay off. Supposedly, it doesn’t.

    I would expect government, especially, to be bad at that. One thing about space research is that it involves a particular goal to be reached. However inefficient government may be, it works better when there is a definite goal.

     

    P.S. And there are also still communists to be beaten.

    If they want to study space, that’s fine, especially if it’s unmanned. I’m just skeptical of all of these side things that are supposedly developed.

    It sounds like NASA getting to the moon was a big deal in making communism look bad to countries that could go either way. I have no idea. I just learned that in like the last year.

    Would you have been okay with the Soviets getting all the technological – and military – advancements from THEIR space program, but we didn’t get any from OURS?

    It’s the same thing now with China, of course.  If they were allowed to take over space, and hence essentially take over Earth too, while you sit there being Libertarian, well, it won’t turn out great for any of us.

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  2. Architectus Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    All I’m saying is, you would think the government could figure out what would fit in the basic research category and it would pay off. Supposedly, it doesn’t.

    I would expect government, especially, to be bad at that. One thing about space research is that it involves a particular goal to be reached. However inefficient government may be, it works better when there is a definite goal.

     

    P.S. And there are also still communists to be beaten.

    If they want to study space, that’s fine, especially if it’s unmanned. I’m just skeptical of all of these side things that are supposedly developed.

    It sounds like NASA getting to the moon was a big deal in making communism look bad to countries that could go either way. I have no idea. I just learned that in like the last year.

    Great podcast series, Bill Whittle’s “Apollo 11: What We Saw”, delves into this topic nicely, with important context.  Also available through the Daily wire.  His follow-up series, “The Cold War: What We Saw”, is excellent also.  

    Listen to “Apollo 11: What We Saw” on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-choose-to-go-to-the-moon-part-1/id1471188269?i=1000444360842

    Cold War: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cold-war-what-we-saw/id1471188269 

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  3. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things.  Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t.  Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

    Well, no kidding. All I’m saying is some people smarter than you and me think that basic science is a joke. 

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

    Well, no kidding. All I’m saying is some people smarter than you and me think that basic science is a joke.

    A lot of people “smarter” than you and me are only “smart” in very limited ways.  They don’t see a “big picture” in ways that are often invisible to specialists.

    And that kind of thing happens a lot, in many areas.  The primary medication I take for my IBD, in fact – sulfasalazine – was originally thought to be a treatment for arthritis.  But it wasn’t.  In a way, what happened was that in testing, the people who had arthritis weren’t helped at all.  But the people who had IBD were like “Hey this stuff is great!”

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

    Well, no kidding. All I’m saying is some people smarter than you and me think that basic science is a joke.

    A lot of people “smarter” than you and me are only “smart” in very limited ways. They don’t see a “big picture” in ways that are often invisible to specialists.

    And that kind of thing happens a lot, in many areas. The primary medication I take for my IBD, in fact – sulfasalazine – was originally thought to be a treatment for arthritis. But it wasn’t. In a way, what happened was that in testing, the people who had arthritis weren’t helped at all. But the people who had IBD were like “Hey this stuff is great!”

    I would love to see you argue with somebody that an informed opinion that it’s a notorious waste of money. 

    If you want to keep doing this all night I’m OK for a couple hours.

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

    Well, no kidding. All I’m saying is some people smarter than you and me think that basic science is a joke.

    A lot of people “smarter” than you and me are only “smart” in very limited ways. They don’t see a “big picture” in ways that are often invisible to specialists.

    And that kind of thing happens a lot, in many areas. The primary medication I take for my IBD, in fact – sulfasalazine – was originally thought to be a treatment for arthritis. But it wasn’t. In a way, what happened was that in testing, the people who had arthritis weren’t helped at all. But the people who had IBD were like “Hey this stuff is great!”

    I would love to see you argue with somebody that an informed opinion that it’s a notorious waste of money.

    If you want to keep doing this all night I’m OK for a couple hours.

    I think I’ve adequately made my point.  Theoretical arguments are fine, especially for a starting point, but we don’t live in a theoretical world.  Largely due to human nature. Which is probably the main reason why both theoretical communism and theoretical libertarianism don’t work.

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  9. SParker Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    (I’ve been screwing around making Boston brown bread. I started doing it without a cake mixer. Good Lord I would kill myself if I had to do that without electricity all the time.)

    On the other hand, you can cut down on your time at the gym and anger-management class.  Life is about trade-offs.  

    “On the other hand” is not used lightly.  I used to do everything by hand as a poorly-funded pup.  It really helped maintain a right forearm that Rod Laver would have been proud of (if you don’t get the dated reference, an understated fiddler crab will suffice).  But judging by the Joy of Cooking recipe (that much solids into that much liquids just doesn’t seem all that difficult to stir), you might want to work up to butter-creaming, putting French or Italian bread in it’s place (the oven!), or whipping cream or egg-whites with a whisk or an eggbeater in less than geological time.  Some things are easier both to do and to clean up after than the electro-mechanical equivalents.  Pastry blender (or even better, using a cheese grater on frozen butter), for example.  You do develop technique and endurance eventually.  (Although, I’m not sure the hating life part ever entirely goes away.  I’ll be right behind you  with a bowl of stiff batter and a broken wooden spoon in the event.)

     

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  10. Blondie Thatcher
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    Thanks for playing the Pretenders song and going out with Rush soundbites, @blueyeti and/or @ejhill. I wonder how long it will be before I can listen to that song and not shed a tear. 

    Love Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She always makes such perfect sense. Loved what she had to say about the benefits of colonialism. 

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  11. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    And this showed up in my feed today.  Such a thing could never happen in this day and age.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  12. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    And this showed up in my feed today. Such a thing could never happen in this day and age.

    this interview was funny

    He tells a story working for KC Royals

     

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  13. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

    Well, no kidding. All I’m saying is some people smarter than you and me think that basic science is a joke.

    A lot of people “smarter” than you and me are only “smart” in very limited ways. They don’t see a “big picture” in ways that are often invisible to specialists.

    And that kind of thing happens a lot, in many areas. The primary medication I take for my IBD, in fact – sulfasalazine – was originally thought to be a treatment for arthritis. But it wasn’t. In a way, what happened was that in testing, the people who had arthritis weren’t helped at all. But the people who had IBD were like “Hey this stuff is great!”

    I would love to see you argue with somebody that an informed opinion that it’s a notorious waste of money.

    If you want to keep doing this all night I’m OK for a couple hours.

    I think I’ve adequately made my point. Theoretical arguments are fine, especially for a starting point, but we don’t live in a theoretical world. Largely due to human nature. Which is probably the main reason why both theoretical communism and theoretical libertarianism don’t work.

    can you elaborate on theoretical libertarianism?

     

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  14. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The only thing Texas did wrong was to fall into some lefty traps for windmill subsidies etc. They should have been smarter, but it’s still leftism that really caused the problems, not conservatism or Republicans.

    Sort of.  Rick Perry set the goal of 1/4 of the grid being wind powered.  Since we haven’t had a state wide Democrat elected since 1994, every official who owns this is a Republican. I plan on holding my local legislator’s feet to the fire.  I’m not sure I’ll even see a weather event like this again in my lifetime, but there is no excuse for ERCOT’s poor performance.  

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  15. J Ro Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    This latest Mars mission cost about $2.7 billion ($2,700,000,000), So let’s say about $10 per adult citizen if they actually want to pay for it, rather than simply add it to the national debt. Obviously that is way out of reach for 21st century venture capitalists with so many more important demands on their capital. 

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The only thing Texas did wrong was to fall into some lefty traps for windmill subsidies etc. They should have been smarter, but it’s still leftism that really caused the problems, not conservatism or Republicans.

    Sort of. Rick Perry set the goal of 1/4 of the grid being wind powered. Since we haven’t had a state wide Democrat elected since 1994, every official who owns this is a Republican. I plan on holding my local legislator’s feet to the fire. I’m not sure I’ll even see a weather event like this again in my lifetime, but there is no excuse for ERCOT’s poor performance.

    They should have been smarter, yes, like I said.  That much reliance on wind power was foolish, but it was made attractive – TOO attractive – by lefty federal subsidies.  Those subsidies make it possible for wind power to cost LESS THAN NOTHING to the utilities, while the “producers” still get a lot of federal money.

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  17. RufusRJones Member
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    J Ro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    This latest Mars mission cost about $2.7 billion ($2,700,000,000), So let’s say about $10 per adult citizen if they actually want to pay for it, rather than simply add it to the national debt. Obviously that is way out of reach for 21st century venture capitalists with so many more important demands on their capital.

    If we want to study space fine, let’s have that discussion. If we have to go into space for security issues, fine. My main issue is the claim that it has all of these multipliers and side benefits like spending on basic science is supposed to have. At the very least, Congress is too stupid and corrupt to figure this out. 

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    J Ro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    This latest Mars mission cost about $2.7 billion ($2,700,000,000), So let’s say about $10 per adult citizen if they actually want to pay for it, rather than simply add it to the national debt. Obviously that is way out of reach for 21st century venture capitalists with so many more important demands on their capital.

    If we want to study space fine, let’s have that discussion. If we have to go into space for security issues, fine. My main issue is the claim that it has all of these multipliers and side benefits like spending on basic science is supposed to have. At the very least, Congress is too stupid and corrupt to figure this out.

    That’s why they should just shut up and fund it, rather than micromanage and insist it be “directed” in particular ways such as “muslim outreach.”

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    J Ro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    This latest Mars mission cost about $2.7 billion ($2,700,000,000), So let’s say about $10 per adult citizen if they actually want to pay for it, rather than simply add it to the national debt. Obviously that is way out of reach for 21st century venture capitalists with so many more important demands on their capital.

    If we want to study space fine, let’s have that discussion. If we have to go into space for security issues, fine. My main issue is the claim that it has all of these multipliers and side benefits like spending on basic science is supposed to have. At the very least, Congress is too stupid and corrupt to figure this out.

    That’s why they should just shut up and fund it, rather than micromanage and insist it be “directed” in particular ways such as “muslim outreach.”

    I have no idea why you think that’s dependable versus what I’m actually saying. If you fund it for the ostensibly intelligent reasons I stated, that’s fine just don’t lie about the actual output beyond that. 

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    Actually, I think a lot of what went into space research was really basic science/research to find new things. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes they found something other than what they were looking for, but it turned out to solve other problems, etc.

    Well, no kidding. All I’m saying is some people smarter than you and me think that basic science is a joke.

    A lot of people “smarter” than you and me are only “smart” in very limited ways. They don’t see a “big picture” in ways that are often invisible to specialists.

    And that kind of thing happens a lot, in many areas. The primary medication I take for my IBD, in fact – sulfasalazine – was originally thought to be a treatment for arthritis. But it wasn’t. In a way, what happened was that in testing, the people who had arthritis weren’t helped at all. But the people who had IBD were like “Hey this stuff is great!”

    I would love to see you argue with somebody that an informed opinion that it’s a notorious waste of money.

    If you want to keep doing this all night I’m OK for a couple hours.

    I think I’ve adequately made my point. Theoretical arguments are fine, especially for a starting point, but we don’t live in a theoretical world. Largely due to human nature. Which is probably the main reason why both theoretical communism and theoretical libertarianism don’t work.

    can you elaborate on theoretical libertarianism?

     

    This is what you need to know. Anytime the government does anything beyond actual “public goods” it reduces output. Sometimes things get really screwed up, like health insurance, and you have to deal with it with central planning but that is not the bulk of the problems right now.

     

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    I have about eight more hours to do this off and on. lol

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    J Ro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    It’s the same thing now with China, of course. If they were allowed to take over space,

    I don’t have an issue with that, obviously. It’s just all of his BS about Tang and Space Food Sticks blah blah blah. I would like to believe in the concept of government funding basic science, but it supposedly doesn’t work out.

    This latest Mars mission cost about $2.7 billion ($2,700,000,000), So let’s say about $10 per adult citizen if they actually want to pay for it, rather than simply add it to the national debt. Obviously that is way out of reach for 21st century venture capitalists with so many more important demands on their capital.

    I think you’d have a very difficult time convincing venture capitalists to put up $2.7 billion (and it would be a lot more if there weren’t already existing launch facilities etc) just to poke around on Mars.  If venture capitalists could raise that much to start with, of actual money.  Seems like a lot of what they do involves stock manipulation etc, not direct money.

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  23. LibertyDefender Member
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    In my youth, we shattered Bonomo Turkish Taffy not with a sledgehammer, but by smashing it – still in its wrapper – on the sidewalk.  As I recall, there were television commercials that tutored us in the practice.

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