Let’s Make A Deal

This week, Larry Kudlow sits in the Long Chair ® as the President and his new BFF’s Chuck and Nancy strike a deal over dinner, Heritage’s Steve Moore on the administration’s tax plan and Tevi Troy on how the President did on Storm Watch ’17.

Music from this week’s podcast: The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead by XTC

 

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  1. Dennis A. Garcia (formerly Gai… Member

    Suggestion: When Kudlow is hosting let Peter act as mc rather than James. With the one Trump-sceptic holding back, these podcasts can become distractingly one-sided.

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    • September 15, 2017, at 5:12 PM PDT
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  2. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    I think Larry Kudlow and James Lileks would make an interesting hosting duo for when Rob and Peter are unavailable.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 12:51 AM PDT
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  3. filmklassik Member

    Interesting podcast. Lileks was conspicuously silent throughout since he clearly disagreed with this week’s groupthink that the President is doing good work for the economy in particular, and the country as a whole.

    But I’m with Lileks. His silence speaks volumes … and certainly speaks for my disillusion.

    And how two intelligent people like Robinson and Kudlow could believe that single payer is not an inevitability is beyond my comprehension — a clear case of hope crowding out common sense. Because Lileks is right: Obama, Pelosi, et al. were all playing the long game — and playing us in the process. The Affordable Care Act was a Trojan horse designed to fail and usher in European (and Canadian, and Australian)-style single-payer health care.

    What’s more, it is going to keep gathering steam and become a reality in 5-10 years. Why? Because most people prize security over liberty — and Americans are no different. Not anymore they’re not. I’m not sure when this Big Changeover occurred (in the last 20 years maybe?), I know only that it did.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 1:12 AM PDT
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  4. Henry Castaigne Member

    I love Lileks recognition of how politics can make some people so incredibly stupid at 53:30. Life in America is pretty good but there seems to be an insatiable yen for misery among so many on the left.

    • #4
    • September 16, 2017, at 6:11 AM PDT
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  5. Fred Houstan Member

    Briefly noted:

    1. Larry: take far more frequent deep breaths, and let others speak
    2. Not enough James
    3. Thanks to Peter for allowing James his 30 seconds of talk
    4. Peter remains a gracious class act, even at the butt of Larry’s bad jokes
    5. This is a good bookend to the most recent Conservatarian podcast
    6. I used to love XTC, but, wow what a piece of lyrical tripe “Peter Pumpkinhead” is.
    • #5
    • September 16, 2017, at 8:10 AM PDT
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  6. ChrisShearer Inactive

    Can we just get it over with and give Larry Kudlow his own show. I like the podcast for it good three person dialogue and questioning of the guest. This was monologue not dialogue. I couldn’t listen to it all.

    • #6
    • September 16, 2017, at 8:17 AM PDT
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  7. OwnedByDogs Coolidge

    Way too much Trumpsplaining for me. I turned it off.

    • #7
    • September 16, 2017, at 8:25 AM PDT
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  8. runnybun727 Inactive

    When Larry says Trump is focused like a laser beam he sounds down right silly.

    correction: Steve Moore gave the Laser Beam statement. Which is courious as he was less optimistic?

    • #8
    • September 16, 2017, at 8:25 AM PDT
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  9. Kim K. Member
    Kim K. Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Great guests who were, again, allowed less time to speak because of host over-speaking. I find it humorous that Larry needs to qualify his relationship to everyone he references – “…a piece written by Benny Finkelstein, who I love, he’s a great guy, we don’t agree on everything but on the main points we do, we worked together in the RQS office back in the Coolidge administration, anyway he says…..”

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    • September 16, 2017, at 9:39 AM PDT
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  10. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    I quit early, which only seems to happen on the Kudlow casts.

    • #10
    • September 16, 2017, at 11:40 AM PDT
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  11. Sorry, I can't take this … Inactive

    Look, I really like Larry, I do. I really enjoy the counterpoint of optimism to a lot of the “crushing morosity” that I otherwise get from Richochet’s line up of podcasts. But it is not entirely Ryan’s and McConnell’s fault that legislation hasn’t worked out the way it should—especially in the senate with its razor-thin margin and recalcitrant factions on the left and right of the majority. And when Trump publicly steps all over their efforts, backs away from what he says he wants, or otherwise double-crosses them, they have very little incentive to try to help him out. Yes, they ought to consider themselves duty bound to do what is right regardless of Trump’s behavior toward them, but I totally understand the natural human response of wanting to say, “To heck with it.” If Trump could try a few carrots and exercise a little loyalty himself instead of “spanking” them, he would doubtless get a better response. That’s politics.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 11:53 AM PDT
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  12. Sorry, I can't take this … Inactive

    Fred Houstan (View Comment):
    I used to love XTC, but, wow what a piece of lyrical tripe “Peter Pumpkinhead” is.

    I really only like “Mayor of Simpleton,” which holds together lyrically pretty well. And maybe “King for a Day,” but that’s pushing it.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 12:09 PM PDT
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  13. filmklassik Member

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    I quit early, which only seems to happen on the Kudlow casts.

    Me too. One senses James would too, if he could.

    Larry comes across like a bright guy who’s got his head in the sand. He seems not to know — or fully believe — that Leftism among the “Feel the Bern!” young (the biggest voting bloc in the country, by the way) is on the ascendant. He honestly thinks that 3 percent growth is going to stave off our rapid march toward European-style social democracy and boy oh boy is he kidding himself. And Peter, for the most part, agrees with him. It really is amazing.

    • #13
    • September 16, 2017, at 12:09 PM PDT
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  14. Fred Houstan Member

    Merrijane (View Comment):
    I really only like “Mayor of Simpleton,” which holds together lyrically pretty well. And maybe “King for a Day,” but that’s pushing it.

    XTC’s “sweet spot” is their “English Settlement,” any of their “Dukes of Stratosphere” songs, or “Skylarking.”

    “Peter Pumpkinhead” has some fun, if inconsistent, analogies to our orange POTUS, so it was a good pick for a show closer. It’s curious how the left longs for some charismatic leader that will “empty churches and shopping malls.” For what? A People’s Glorious Community Restoration Initiative? So we sack the Vatican – then what magic will happen? Judas promised the same glorious result.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM PDT
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  15. Blue Yeti Admin

    Fred Houstan (View Comment):

    XTC’s “sweet spot” is their “English Settlement,” any of their “Dukes of Stratosphere” songs, or “Skylarking.”

    “Peter Pumpkinhead” has some fun, if inconsistent, analogies to our orange POTUS, so it was a good pick for a show closer. It’s curious how the left longs for some charismatic leader that will “empty churches and shopping malls.” For what? A People’s Glorious Community Restoration Initiative? So we sack the Vatican – then what magic will happen? Judas promised the same glorious result.

    @fredhoustan gets it.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 1:05 PM PDT
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  16. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Hearing Trump’s voice at the beginning of the podcast is causing me PTSD. Is it possible to start with Reagan’s voice first?

    #NeverTrump,

    Gary Robbins

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    • September 16, 2017, at 2:24 PM PDT
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  17. Painter Jean Member

    I like Larry, though I don’t share his enthusiasm for Trump. But fer Pete’s sake, I wish he recognize that he is just one of three people we’d like to hear from, and not the sole voice. He sucks the air out of the conversation. To reduce James to doing ads is a criminal waste of a prodigious talent. I suppose Peter sensed this towards the end and actually asked James a question, but frankly the whole show was way too heavy on the Kudlow and way too skimpy on the Lileks.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 4:45 PM PDT
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  18. Al Kennedy Inactive
    Al Kennedy Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    It was very ironic and entertaining to hear Larry and Peter, two pillars of the Republican elite establishment, try to outdo each other in singing the praises of “Amnesty Don”. I missed the absence of Lileks’ always insightful comments.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 4:58 PM PDT
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  19. Erika Kinder Member

    So….. tried to find the ricochet store on my iPhone. I’d certainly buy some swag. Can you post a link?

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    • September 16, 2017, at 5:57 PM PDT
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  20. filmklassik Member

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I like Larry, though I don’t share his enthusiasm for Trump. But fer Pete’s sake, I wish he recognize that he is just one of three people we’d like to hear from, and not the sole voice. He sucks the air out of the conversation. To reduce James to doing ads is a criminal waste of a prodigious talent. I suppose Peter sensed this towards the end and actually asked James a question, but frankly the whole show was way too heavy on the Kudlow and way too skimpy on the Lileks.

    My two cents? James was keeping mum all on his own, and his silence spoke volumes.

    I share his contempt for the Trump love-fest.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 6:36 PM PDT
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  21. Blue Yeti Admin

    Erika Kinder (View Comment):
    So….. tried to find the ricochet store on my iPhone. I’d certainly buy some swag. Can you post a link?

    ricochet.com/store

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    • September 16, 2017, at 8:05 PM PDT
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  22. Old Vines Thatcher

    Kudlow is fine as an infrequent guest. Basically he is a one note band. I accept his message but I don’t need it relentlessly.

    He is a lousy host.

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    • September 16, 2017, at 10:45 PM PDT
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  23. CliffTOP Inactive

    ChrisShearer (View Comment):
    Can we just get it over with and give Larry Kudlow his own show. I like the podcast for it good three person dialogue and questioning of the guest. This was monologue not dialogue. I couldn’t listen to it all.

    Couldn’t agree more… Larry is a superb, insightful and experienced economist, but he’s not a talented podcaster in the same vein as James, Rob and Peter imho. And then monopolizes the podcast on top of that.

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    • September 17, 2017, at 6:03 AM PDT
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  24. Quake Voter Inactive

    I love Larry Kudlow. He was never a small presence, and then he spent half a decade with Jim Cramer.

    He’s best in the two-person booth. Passionate and with a very appealing sense of humor, which relies on inside jokes and bar buddy insults. Takes a good punch too and is willing to be openly critical of himself.

    Honestly, has anyone else ever made Tim Pawlenty consistently lively and entertaining?

    That said, the three-person booth with guests is not his game.

    As for James, the hosting tasks, apart from the segues with Rob (consistently brilliant), cramp his freewheeling inventive style.

    Okay, it’s his gig, but why not fill in for Peter or Rob with Troy as mischievous host once in a while and let James loose a little?

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    • September 17, 2017, at 4:35 PM PDT
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  25. Blue Yeti Admin

    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Okay, it’s his gig, but why not fill in for Peter or Rob with Troy as mischievous host once in a while and let James loose a little?

    Coming soon.

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    • September 17, 2017, at 4:56 PM PDT
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  26. filmklassik Member

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Okay, it’s his gig, but why not fill in for Peter or Rob with Troy as mischievous host once in a while and let James loose a little?

    Coming soon.

    Well, that’s a tantalizing blurb if ever I saw one. I’m definitely intrigued. Lileks unchained is a wonder to behold — the man extemporizes better than just about anyone else in North America. No idea how he does it. And he is bust-a-gut funny, too.

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    • September 17, 2017, at 5:02 PM PDT
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  27. Painter Jean Member

    runnybun727 (View Comment):
    When Larry says Trump is focused like a laser beam he sounds down right silly.

    In fairness to Larry, it was Steve Moore who said that Trump was “focused like a laser beam” – I believe it was tax reform policy that was the subject of this concentrated gaze. But I agree that it’s a pretty ludicrous description of a guy with a short attention span and no taste for policy details.

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    • September 17, 2017, at 10:28 PM PDT
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  28. Chris Bogdan Member

    I don’t mind Larry being on because he’s a Trump guy, I mind that he’s so predictable in being a Trump guy.

    1. The thing he’s doing is the exact right thing

    2. Reagan!

    3. Something, something, GOP Establishment

    Lather, rinse, repeat

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    • September 18, 2017, at 9:46 AM PDT
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  29. Chris Bogdan Member

    Personally, I like the Crash Test Dummies version of The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead. They perform it with a slightly faster tempo which makes the lyrics more whimsical than cynical. Also, Ellen Reid didn’t, as it were, take center stage too often and she nailed the vocals.

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    • September 18, 2017, at 9:56 AM PDT
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  30. filmklassik Member

    Chris Bogdan (View Comment):
    I don’t mind Larry being on because he’s a Trump guy, I mind that he’s so predictable in being a Trump guy.

    1. The thing he’s doing is the exact right thing

    2. Reagan!

    3. Something, something, GOP Establishment

    Lather, rinse, repeat

    4. “Do I think (such and such Left Wing goal) is ever going to happen? Nah. Nah, I don’t think so.”

    And let’s not forget Peter’s revival-tent response to Larry’s monologue-ing: “Yes!” … “Exactly!” … “Thank you!”

    Preach, brother. Get it said.

    Predictable indeed.

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    • September 18, 2017, at 10:04 AM PDT
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