Heating Up

The hard thing about producing a weekly podcast is coming up with relevant topics to talk about. Nothing ever happens in this boring administration we’ve elected. Yawn. This week, we’ve got Pat Buchanan (you must buy his new book Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever) who weighs in on those endless Nixon/Trump comparisons, and gives us his take on how the President is doing so far. Then, our old pal Dennis Prager made some waves this week with a column titled Why Conservatives Still Attack Trump. We delve into that and his new project with Adam Corrolla (he’ll be on in a few weeks too), No Safe Spaces, a film on the decay of free speech/thought on college campuses and what this means for our country. Also, join us on July 23rd for a special taping of Uncommon Knowledge with Peter Robinson at the Reagan Library, hosted by Pat Sajak. Details here.

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  1. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Merrijane (View Comment):
    It would be nice if Trump critics and Trump fans could just let each other be for awhile. The back and forth sniping is what I find demoralizing.

    That’s understandable.

    The larger problem is (and the reason I continue to pull my hair out over it and pray for a change) is that with a huge portion of the “conservative” punditocracy overcome with Trump Derangement syndrome, we are going to lose our opportunity and turn the ball over by failing to move it.  And I guarantee the Democrats are going to march as fast as they can holding, and clipping, and facemasking, and scratching, and biting, just as they did last time.

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  2. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    rebark (View Comment):
    What on Earth are Mr. Buchanan’s vague allusions to “those neocons plotting wars” about? Not to mention, “Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons”? Really?

    Yes, on this, Mr. Buchanan does not seem to be on Earth.

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  3. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    rebark (View Comment):
    What on Earth are Mr. Buchanan’s vague allusions to “those neocons plotting wars” about? Not to mention, “Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons”? Really?

    He’s still mad we joined the Allied side in 1917.

    Make of that what you will.

    The final comment makes the implication much too harsh.  At least w.r.t. 1917, nobody can accuse you of calling him a Nazi.

    Unless you were being slyly churlish and expected everyone to make that anachronistic connection.

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  4. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    Do you really want Trump to be gladhanding Congressmen to “make a deal”, James? I would guess that you’re just poking the people who talk about him like a political demigod.

    Yes, and not entirely. Crafting and passing legislation requires negotiation and compromise, no? Wheedling, flattery, threats, flummery, horse-trading, all the usual means of corralling the horses to get them yoked to the wagon. The old LBJ example.

    As for the second part, I was told he was a master negotiator. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t get the sense that he engages with Congress, or looks forward to wheeling and/or dealing.

    hey-SOOS, James!  What the hell do you expect?  Trump IS a political naif.  You certainly appear to know that.  He’s gonna be pretty easily led on most stuff that isn’t of some sort of core importance to him.

    The real question should be:  what the hell are Ryan and McConnell doing anyway?

    Quit just bashing him and engage in some intelligent analysis.  I’m certain you are capable of it, you have been in the past.

    If you keep up what you’ve been doing, you will remain a bore as you have been lately, which is the cardinal sin for your profession.  (That’s more of the Rob Long “tough love.”)

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  5. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Jon Gordner (View Comment):

    Personally I am not a blind supporter of Trump, I realize the man is incredibly flawed but I also believe he was the man for the moment and he’s the battering ram we have to try to break through the media narrative that clouds the mind of too many of our fellow Americans. Look at what is happening to the left right now. They are imploding and largly because they realize that their grip on power is waning, but if we aren’t bold now they can get it back and I would prefer they didn’t.

    My social bubble is largely on the left, and it’s worth clarifying that from the left’s perspective, they are not imploding but getting energized and they believe they are poised for huge midterms, just like Republicans in 2010. There is no fear right now on the left about the popularity of “the movement.” Looking at the tight special elections in Montana, Kansas, and Georgia (where it shouldn’t have been close at all), only furthers that confidence.

    I’m not trying to say what is or isn’t happening (predictions are silly, IMO), just what the perception on the left is.

    What was the perception on the left on November 7th?  Smart of you to disavow predictions.

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  6. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Common Citizen (View Comment):

    Mate De (View Comment):
    [I]t almost seems like nothing this guy can do can be praise worthy without a big ole BUT at the end of it.

    Forgive me for harping on this (and yes, I did see the “almost”), but I think this is important.

    Here’s the opening of an article by David French from yesterday:

    Consider it a campaign promise rightly kept. Trump this afternoon announced his intention to withdraw the United States from the Paris climate-change accords, and if he holds to his decision, he’ll do the American people a great service. Simply put, before any president attempts to bind the United States to an enduring multinational accord, it’s his duty to convince the American people — through constitutional processes — that the agreement is in the best interests of the United States. Barack Obama failed to do this in 2015. Trump is right to reject his actions today.

    If that ain’t unmitigated praise from a former NeverTrumper, I don’t know what is.

    More interestingly, here’s how French concludes his piece:

    Trump has been hit-or-miss on his campaign promises. Just today he wrongly backed away from his commitment to move America’s embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. But leaving the Paris agreement was a big promise made, and as of today it’s a big promise kept.

    Notice that the criticism — one of, I think, two small ones in the piece — proceeds the “but” that begins the final sentence. That is, the point of the final sentence of the piece sentence is that Trump kept an important campaign promise.

    This is fine, appropriate criticism (and praise.)

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  7. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    BD1 (View Comment):
    If Donald Trump had sat quietly and smiled while the person interviewing him used the [really bad racist] word, would Ben Sasse have given him a pass? Or would Sasse have condemned Trump and then taunted him about it over and over again on Twitter?

    @bd1 I really hope you are kidding.

    Not convinced.  Trump is not a comedian.  And Sasse has shown serious signs of moral preening.  And being a first amendment absolutist does not preclude one from criticizing anyone for anything.

    But kudos to Sasse if he really would treat Trump same as Maher.

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  8. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Spiral (View Comment):
    Prager doesn’t seem to understand the difference between conservatism and the Republican party.

    Medicare and Social Security are out of control social welfare programs on course to bankrupt the United States of America.

    Trump says that he will not touch either program.

    Conservatives at National Review say that those programs must be reformed.

    Prager has chosen to be a loyal soldier in the Republican cause.

    National Review has chosen to be a magazine advocating conservative ideas.

    Nope.  You’re as wrong as can be.

    Prager has chosen to work to get conservative policies enacted and rightly sees denigrating Trump as a distraction and counterproductive.

    You and and National Review want to be seen as moral lights regardless of how much harm you actually do by preventing any progress toward worthy goals.

    Great job.

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  9. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    BD1 (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    P.S. I admit to some bias when it comes to Ben Sasse. I think he’s great and Peter Robinson and I were lucky enough to be able to spend some time with him yesterday too:

    Sasse has tweeted extensively about “covfefe”, but not about the Paris Climate Agreement. Do you guys ask him about the latter issue?

    This show was mostly about his book.

    I dont’ follow Twitter.  But if Ben Sasse has been Tweeting extensively about “covfefe”, and that’s what it sounds like, that makes your comments about Sasse look really foolish.  Moreover, it makes Sasse seem really foolish.  Pretty disappointing from a guy I relied upon to focus on the right stuff.

    Still, that’s enough “ifs” to tread carefully.

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  10. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Spiral (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Spiral (View Comment):
    Trump is an ignoramus. He might be our ignoramus, but he’s still an ignoramus.

    I disagree. Nothing he’s ever done would suggest that he is an ignoramus. To be sure, like all of us, there are areas in which he is ignorant. That is normal. Peter Robinson told a great story several years ago about Reagan at Reykjavik. One of his advisors wanted him to know about how missiles work. Reagan responded “oh, Jim, Gorbechev doesn’t know any of that either.”

    Here’s what Scott Adams had to say about it recently:

    Part of the fun of watching the press cover President Trump is that they don’t have a leadership filter. Most writers and TV news people have never been leaders in super-complicated industries. President Trump has. And let me tell you a few necessary skills a leader in that situation needs to possess:

    1. No patience with long explanations. If an advisor can’t put the USEFUL information in summary form, ignore and move to the next advisor.

    2. Ability to know which variables are sufficient to make the decision.

    A president needs those two qualities. Otherwise, the job would overwhelm. if you are one of the advisors who doesn’t get enough attention from the president – because your explanations of things are overly wordy or useless – what message do you leak to the press?

    Answer: You say President Trump has a short attention span.

    This is definitely an issue that divides many Trump supporters and most of the Trump skeptics.

    Here’s an analogy:

    Some people never liked Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as a basketball player, not because they doubted his athletic ability, but because of the negative comments he made about the United States of America.

    I think it’s similar attitude that many conservatives have with Trump. They will cheer a Gorsuch nomination. They will cheer the exit from the Paris Climate Agreement. But they will never respect Donald Trump has a human being.

    And for good reason.

    You seem to have difficulty following an argument.

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  11. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):
    I could still dislike a Barack Obama if he had bailed from a Paris Accords that a prior president had signed onto. That I would agree with and endorse some things he does, wouldn’t erase everything else I dislike and don’t support.

    Not sure if the analogy works here, but it’s similar. If Barry had cut corporate and personal income taxes in 2009, would Prager have told all of us to vote for him in the next election?

    That analogy is unbelievably bad.  Even if Barack Obama had done things comparable to your fantasy citations, it wouldn’t make him in any way comparable to the reality (so far) of Trump.

    Kudos for obliquely noting how terrible it is.  Cheers.

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  12. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Moderator Note:

    Personal attack.

    You ain't no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):
    Dude, you say that like the reasons aren’t blazingly obvious.

    [Redacted.]

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  13. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Phew, made it through all the comments!  What a workout!

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  14. You ain't no Eric Hoffer Inactive
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    You’re cute when you’re angry.

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  15. Steve C. Member
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    Ario IronStar (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    rebark (View Comment):
    What on Earth are Mr. Buchanan’s vague allusions to “those neocons plotting wars” about? Not to mention, “Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons”? Really?

    He’s still mad we joined the Allied side in 1917.

    Make of that what you will.

    The final comment makes the implication much too harsh. At least w.r.t. 1917, nobody can accuse you of calling him a Nazi.

    Unless you were being slyly churlish and expected everyone to make that anachronistic connection.

    Buchanan wrote a book arguing that British involvement in WW I was a mistake. Further, that the US was duped into siding with the Allies. An old style isolationist.

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  16. She Member
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Spiral (View Comment):
    Trump is an ignoramus. He might be our ignoramus, but he’s still an ignoramus.

    I disagree. Nothing he’s ever done would suggest that he is an ignoramus. To be sure, like all of us, there are areas in which he is ignorant. That is normal. Peter Robinson told a great story several years ago about Reagan at Reykjavik. One of his advisors wanted him to know about how missiles work. Reagan responded “oh, Jim, Gorbechev doesn’t know any of that either.”

    Funny story.  What a charming, and self-aware man Ronald Reagan was.

    And that’s the difference.  Reagan knew he didn’t know that stuff.  And he was confident enough not to care if others knew it, too. (And he was probably right about Gorbachev as well).

    I cannot imagine Trump making that sort of self-deprecating comment.  He is, after all, the guy who said, “I know more about ISIS than the generals do.  Believe me.”  (See here for a list of other, similar remarks about things like banking, taxes, infrastructure, trade, energy, etc. etc.)

    There’s nothing dangerous about admitting you don’t know something about something.  There’s something very dangerous about being sure you know everything about everything.   Yes, you can get some good things done.  But if your ego never takes a back seat to the business at hand (don’t see much evidence, or have much hope, that Trump will ever put his ego aside), sooner or later, there’s going to be a mess.  And therein lies the problem.

     

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  17. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Ario IronStar (View Comment):
    Phew, made it through all the comments! What a workout!

    Wow — a tour de force. I liked every single one of your comments. Thanks for the clarity and defense of the obvious.

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  18. Steve C. Member
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    She (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Spiral (View Comment):
    Trump is an ignoramus. He might be our ignoramus, but he’s still an ignoramus.

    I disagree. Nothing he’s ever done would suggest that he is an ignoramus. To be sure, like all of us, there are areas in which he is ignorant. That is normal. Peter Robinson told a great story several years ago about Reagan at Reykjavik. One of his advisors wanted him to know about how missiles work. Reagan responded “oh, Jim, Gorbechev doesn’t know any of that either.”

    Funny story. What a charming, and self-aware man Ronald Reagan was.

    And that’s the difference. Reagan knew he didn’t know that stuff. And he was confident enough not to care if others knew it, too. (And he was probably right about Gorbachev as well).

    I cannot imagine Trump making that sort of self-deprecating comment. He is, after all, the guy who said, “I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.” (See here for a list of other, similar remarks about things like banking, taxes, infrastructure, trade, energy, etc. etc.)

    There’s nothing dangerous about admitting you don’t know something about something. There’s something very dangerous about being sure you know everything about everything. Yes, you can get some good things done. But if your ego never takes a back seat to the business at hand (don’t see much evidence, or have much hope, that Trump will ever put his ego aside), sooner or later, there’s going to be a mess. And therein lies the problem.

    Put aside that we now know Reagan was incredibly well read. His decision making rubric was elegant: does it advance my objective and does it comport with my principles?

    Being a master of detail at the Presidential level is a classic case of confusing means with ends. Expertise can be hired. It takes a lifetime of experience to hone one’s judgement.

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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    P.S. I admit to some bias when it comes to Ben Sasse. I think he’s great and Peter Robinson and I were lucky enough to be able to spend some time with him yesterday too:

    Of course, he loves amnesty.

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  20. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Moderator Note:

    Yep.

    You ain't no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):
    You’re cute when you’re angry.

    Thanks, sweetie.

    [Redacted.]

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  21. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Ario IronStar (View Comment):
    Phew, made it through all the comments! What a workout!

    Wow — a tour de force. I liked every single one of your comments. Thanks for the clarity and defense of the obvious.

    Thanks, and yeah, taking stock and focussing on your goals should be obvious.  But I’ve now finally learned that nobody is beyond cutting off the nose to spite the face.

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  22. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Ario IronStar (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    rebark (View Comment):
    What on Earth are Mr. Buchanan’s vague allusions to “those neocons plotting wars” about? Not to mention, “Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons”? Really?

    He’s still mad we joined the Allied side in 1917.

    Make of that what you will.

    The final comment makes the implication much too harsh. At least w.r.t. 1917, nobody can accuse you of calling him a Nazi.

    Unless you were being slyly churlish and expected everyone to make that anachronistic connection.

    Buchanan wrote a book arguing that British involvement in WW I was a mistake. Further, that the US was duped into siding with the Allies. An old style isolationist.

    Thanks for the clarification.

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  23. Charlotte Member
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    Mate De (View Comment):
    Did you hear the same podcast I did? There were more buts in it than a Sir Mix-a-lot video.

     

    Hahahaha! Very nice. :-)

     

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  24. Ario IronStar Inactive
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    Editor Note:

    Obvious reason for redaction is obvious.

    Ario IronStar (View Comment):

    You ain’t no Eric Hoffer (View Comment):
    You’re cute when you’re angry.

    Thanks, sweetie.

    [Redacted.]

    [Redacted.]

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  25. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    outlaws6688 (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    P.S. I admit to some bias when it comes to Ben Sasse. I think he’s great and Peter Robinson and I were lucky enough to be able to spend some time with him yesterday too:

    Of course, he loves amnesty.

    Can’t the Hoover Institution afford level floors?

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  26. Archie Campbell Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):
    Yes, and not entirely. Crafting and passing legislation requires negotiation and compromise, no? Wheedling, flattery, threats, flummery, horse-trading, all the usual means of corralling the horses to get them yoked to the wagon. The old LBJ example.

    This is what I was hoping for with Trump, and I hope we will yet get. As much as I like gridlock, I would like to see some wheeling and dealing to actually get (useful) legislation passed. I figured that underneath the bombast he’d be eager to make deals, but so far I haven’t seen much evidence that he’s talking to Congresscritters. It’s sad that we’re in a state that just getting the parties negotiating legislation is a herculean task.

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  27. Steve C. Member
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    Archie Campbell (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):
    Yes, and not entirely. Crafting and passing legislation requires negotiation and compromise, no? Wheedling, flattery, threats, flummery, horse-trading, all the usual means of corralling the horses to get them yoked to the wagon. The old LBJ example.

    This is what I was hoping for with Trump, and I hope we will yet get. As much as I like gridlock, I would like to see some wheeling and dealing to actually get (useful) legislation passed. I figured that underneath the bombast he’d be eager to make deals, but so far I haven’t seen much evidence that he’s talking to Congresscritters. It’s sad that we’re in a state that just getting the parties negotiating legislation is a herculean task.

    His poor start has removed any incentive for the Democrats to deal.

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  28. profdlp Inactive
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    Steve C. (View Comment):
    His poor start has removed any incentive for the Democrats to deal.

    They were trying to impeach the guy since before Thanksgiving.  Did you think they ever had any incentive to deal?

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  29. Steve C. Member
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    profdlp (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):
    His poor start has removed any incentive for the Democrats to deal.

    They were trying to impeach the guy since before Thanksgiving. Did you think they ever had any incentive to deal?

    I think if he had come out of the gate strong, rather than stepping on his manhood with golf shoes, they might have.

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