Georgia On Our Minds

We’re back from the holiday break and have Georgia on our minds. As such we welcome Erick Erickson, host of “Atlanta’s Evening News” on WSB AM/FM, and he joins to us to analyze “suitcase-gate” and give us his take on January’s double US Senate election in the Peach State. (Erick’s podcast is available right here on Ricochet.)

Then we talk to old friend Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Professor of Medicine at Stanford University. As the Covid-19 vaccination comes to market, what’s the best way to do it? Who gets priority and who shouldn’t be bothered?

Eustace C. Scrubb walks away with the coveted Lileks Member Post of the Week for his essay on the passing of David Prowse, one half of the man behind Darth Vader.

Music from this week’s episode: The Devil Went Down to Georgia by Charlie Daniels.

 

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  1. HeavyWater Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    There are some counties in Texas where Biden had a huge increase in the vote compared to Hillary Clinton four years earlier.

    Bexar county: 319,550—>448,452

    Travis county: 308,260—>433,062

    Tarrant county: 288,392—>411,567

    Collin county: 140,624—>230,945

    Denton county: 110,890—>188,695

    Williamson county: 84,468—>142,457

    If this is supposed to negate the data from Steve Cortes or The Federalist, I don’t see it.

    What did Steve Cortes or The Federalist write about Texas?

    Trump got all of the Texas electoral votes. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about. There were like four states that had anomalous spikes in votes compared to the rest of the country, and that was the only reason Biden won.

    Biden did better than Hillary Clinton in nearly every major city in the Untied States.

     

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  2. RufusRJones Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    There are some counties in Texas where Biden had a huge increase in the vote compared to Hillary Clinton four years earlier.

    Bexar county: 319,550—>448,452

    Travis county: 308,260—>433,062

    Tarrant county: 288,392—>411,567

    Collin county: 140,624—>230,945

    Denton county: 110,890—>188,695

    Williamson county: 84,468—>142,457

    If this is supposed to negate the data from Steve Cortes or The Federalist, I don’t see it.

    What did Steve Cortes or The Federalist write about Texas?

    Trump got all of the Texas electoral votes. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about. There were like four states that had anomalous spikes in votes compared to the rest of the country, and that was the only reason Biden won.

    Biden did better than Hillary Clinton in nearly every major city in the Untied States.

     

    The Federalist did a retraction. I stand corrected. 

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/#.X7vKivbyePk.twitter

     

     

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  3. HeavyWater Inactive
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    There were a few cities where Biden did not perform as well as Hillary Clinton:

    [1] Philadelphia

    [2] Chicago

    [3] Cleveland

    [4] El Paso, Texas

    [5] Miami

    But in Seattle (Washington), Louisville (Kentucky) and in Nashville (Tennessee), Biden had a higher net vote margin over Trump than Hillary did.  Not to mention big cities like Dallas, Denver, Memphis, Indianapolis, Portland and so on.

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  4. Blue Yeti Admin
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    DonG (Biden is compromised) (View Comment):

    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    “We just don’t see anything–any evidence that would overturn the election results.”

    Seriously? None of you see a problem with a statement like this coming from ANYONE?

    We had a judge in Pennsylvania say that 2 million mail-in ballots in PA were illegal, but it was too late to remedy. Expect the same from WI and NV. I guess the existence of that judge is a conspiracy theory;)

    The judge (Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia A. McCullough) did not declare the ballots illegal. Judge McCullough’s order (on 11/25/20) said the state, which certified its election results for President-elect Joe Biden on Tuesday, should halt any further steps toward finalizing the results or revising its vote count (emphasis mine):

    To the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 general election … for the offices of president and vice president of the United States of America, respondents are preliminarily enjoined from doing so, pending an evidentiary hearing,” the judge’s order said. “Inasmuch as respondents, based on their press release and briefs, have not undertaken certification of any of the other results of the election, respondents are preliminarily enjoined from certifying the remaining results of the election, pending the evidentiary hearing.”

    A few days later, The Pennsylvania Supreme Court threw out a lower court’s order preventing the state from certifying dozens of contests including the Presidential election. The judge was pretty rough on them: 

    “They have failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted,” Justice David Wecht wrote in a concurring opinion.

    Later, The Philadelphia-based Third U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in its ruling that the Trump campaign hadn’t claimed fraud or that ballots were cast by illegal voters. The court noted the number of ballots the campaign had challenged were far smaller than Joe Biden’s margin of victory in the state. This judge  –a Trump appointee–  was even tougher on the Trump legal team:

    “Calling an election unfair does not make it so,” wrote U.S. Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, for the three-judge panel. “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

    Judge Bibas was joined by Judge Michael Chagares and Chief Judge D. Brooks Smith, both appointees of George W. Bush.

    — Blue Yeti, Honorary J.D., Ricochet School of Law ’07

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  5. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Here are the top 10 states where the net vote margin was largest:

    [1] California: Biden beat Trump by 5,103,868

    [2] New York: Biden beat Trump by 1,993,782

    [3] Massachusetts: Biden beat Trump by 1,215,000

    [4] Illinois: Biden beat Trump by 1,053,153

    [5] Maryland: Biden beat Trump by 1,008,609

    [6] Washington state: Biden beat Trump by 784,961

    [7] New Jersey: Biden beat Trump by 724,767

    [8] Tennessee: Trump beat Biden by 708,764

    [9] Texas: Trump beat Biden by 631,221

    [10] Alabama: Trump beat Biden by 591,546

    So, in some sense there was a blue wave, but that blue wave sprayed most of its water in blue states.  

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  6. kedavis Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Over 81 million people voted for Biden.

    Assuming facts not in evidence, again.

    There may be 81 million ballots, or at least supposedly-counted ballots.  But that’s a different thing.

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  7. HeavyWater Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Over 81 million people voted for Biden.

    Assuming facts not in evidence, again.

    There may be 81 million ballots, or at least supposedly-counted ballots. But that’s a different thing.

    The burden of proof is on those who dispute that Biden received over 81 million votes.

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  8. kedavis Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Over 81 million people voted for Biden.

    Assuming facts not in evidence, again.

    There may be 81 million ballots, or at least supposedly-counted ballots. But that’s a different thing.

    The burden of proof is on those who dispute that Biden received over 81 million votes.

    That’s one position.  Another is that we’ve seen evidence including video of observers/monitors being illegally excluded from counting and/or being expelled once in, sometimes to the applause and cheers of others present.  So now the burden of proof is on you/them to prove that nothing untoward happened in the absence of those legally-required observers/monitors.

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  9. HeavyWater Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Over 81 million people voted for Biden.

    Assuming facts not in evidence, again.

    There may be 81 million ballots, or at least supposedly-counted ballots. But that’s a different thing.

    The burden of proof is on those who dispute that Biden received over 81 million votes.

    That’s one position. Another is that we’ve seen evidence including video of observers/monitors being illegally excluded from counting and/or being expelled once in, sometimes to the applause and cheers of others present. So now the burden of proof is on you/them to prove that nothing untoward happened in the absence of those legally-required observers/monitors.

    No.  The rumor mill is not sufficient to overturn certified election results.  

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    The problem is ballot harvesting and lawfare. Mark Zuckerberg and Marc Elias run everything, effectively. 

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  11. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Another is that we’ve seen evidence including video of observers/monitors being illegally excluded from counting and/or being expelled once in, sometimes to the applause and cheers of others present. So now the burden of proof is on you/them to prove that nothing untoward happened in the absence of those legally-required observers/monitors.

    No, the actual burden of truth is on the Trump legal team to convince a court that this “evidence” is what they (and you) keep insisting it is. Otherwise Joe Biden will be the next President.

    So far, they’ve failed to meet that standard. Repeatedly.  

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  12. kedavis Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Over 81 million people voted for Biden.

    Assuming facts not in evidence, again.

    There may be 81 million ballots, or at least supposedly-counted ballots. But that’s a different thing.

    The burden of proof is on those who dispute that Biden received over 81 million votes.

    That’s one position. Another is that we’ve seen evidence including video of observers/monitors being illegally excluded from counting and/or being expelled once in, sometimes to the applause and cheers of others present. So now the burden of proof is on you/them to prove that nothing untoward happened in the absence of those legally-required observers/monitors.

    No. The rumor mill is not sufficient to overturn certified election results.

    I’m pretty sure that video of observers being illegally blocked from observing, and others being illegally removed from observing to applause and cheers, is evidence of wrongdoing.  Reading the minds of those who carried out the illegal exclusions is not required.  I expect even Gary understands that illegal/improper/prejudicial activity on either side can shift the burden of proof, although it may not come up often in family law.

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  13. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    I’m pretty sure that video of observers being illegally blocked from observing, and others being illegally removed from observing to applause and cheers, is evidence of wrongdoing.

    That’ll be up to a judge.

    We asked Erick about that video in this show as he has interviewed people who were in that room. The answers those people gave Erick do not comport with what you are pretty sure about. Give it a listen. 

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  14. kedavis Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    I’m pretty sure that video of observers being illegally blocked from observing, and others being illegally removed from observing to applause and cheers, is evidence of wrongdoing.

    That’ll be up to a judge.

    We asked Erick about that video in this show as he has interviewed people who were in that room. The answers those people gave Erick do not comport with what you are pretty sure about. Give it a listen.

    If he talked to the people who were applauding/cheering, who do you think I should believe?

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  15. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Another is that we’ve seen evidence including video of observers/monitors being illegally excluded from counting and/or being expelled once in, sometimes to the applause and cheers of others present. So now the burden of proof is on you/them to prove that nothing untoward happened in the absence of those legally-required observers/monitors.

    No, the actual burden of truth is on the Trump legal team to convince a court that this “evidence” is what they (and you) keep insisting it is. Otherwise Joe Biden will be the next President.

    So far, they’ve failed to meet that standard. Repeatedly.

    Actually, Constitutionally speaking, all that needs to happen is enough state legislatures not to certify the electors, so that it gets thrown to the House… and Trump likely wins that.

    Anyone who believes this will be settled by any court has missed the point of what is happening. 

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  16. kedavis Member
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    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Another is that we’ve seen evidence including video of observers/monitors being illegally excluded from counting and/or being expelled once in, sometimes to the applause and cheers of others present. So now the burden of proof is on you/them to prove that nothing untoward happened in the absence of those legally-required observers/monitors.

    No, the actual burden of truth is on the Trump legal team to convince a court that this “evidence” is what they (and you) keep insisting it is. Otherwise Joe Biden will be the next President.

    So far, they’ve failed to meet that standard. Repeatedly.

    Actually, Constitutionally speaking, all that needs to happen is enough state legislatures not to certify the electors, so that it gets thrown to the House… and Trump likely wins that.

    Anyone who believes this will be settled by any court has missed the point of what is happening.

    Unfortunately legislators and legislatures have been ceding their authority to the courts for a long time.  And in this case especially, nobody wants to have BLM/Antifa/etc showing up at their homes with torches, for “selecting” Trump no matter how justified.

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  17. Seco Inactive
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    I’ve decided to cancel my subscription from Ricochet. While it’s usually a good podcast and I listen to the flagship podcast each week I’m getting a little tired of Rob continually insulting his audience. Its always been there, especially so on Glop and unfortunately he brings that snark and smarm to the Ricochet podcast. I think you can be suspicious of the result without being lumped in with Qanon types (I still don’t know who they are). Rob is unable to do that. Rob also went along with everything that the Left threw at Trump in relation to Russia/Ukraine etc. Who is crazy?

    The best part of Ricochet for me was finding the Andrew Klavan podcast and now I’m a Daily Wire subscriber.  To be honest though, I think the best value for money conservative to subscribe to is Mark Steyn (James Dellingpole an honourable second). Steyn is 100% right when he says “when Democrats are in government they are in power, when it’s the Republicans, they’re merely in office”. It seems conservative talk is accepting of dodgy results and have now moved on. As such I’ll be a bit choosier about what I spend my money on. Once my Daily Wire subscription has passed I’ll start giving Steyn what he’s owed from me. 

    The right of centre has been destroyed this year (is that why the media won’t shut up about Covid??). Trump had the world against him and it looks like he’s been brought down by hook or by crook, Boris Johnson is shrinking before everyone’s eyes, there’s no “right of centre” party in Australia (Abbott was our last hope but even he was “worse than Hitler”) or NZ. Where to from here? And I don’t believe the “surgical removal” theory. The defeat of Trump will embolden China and who will stop them?

    Thanks to James and Peter, you two are jewels and I enjoy listening to you and I wish you well. 

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  18. kedavis Member
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    Seco (View Comment):

    I’ve decided to cancel my subscription from Ricochet. While it’s usually a good podcast and I listen to the flagship podcast each week I’m getting a little tired of Rob continually insulting his audience. Its always been there, especially so on Glop and unfortunately he brings that snark and smarm to the Ricochet podcast. I think you can be suspicious of the result without being lumped in with Qanon types (I still don’t know who they are). Rob is unable to do that. Rob also went along with everything that the Left threw at Trump in relation to Russia/Ukraine etc. Who is crazy?

    The best part of Ricochet for me was finding the Andrew Klavan podcast and now I’m a Daily Wire subscriber. To be honest though, I think the best value for money conservative to subscribe to is Mark Steyn (James Dellingpole an honourable second). Steyn is 100% right when he says “when Democrats are in government they are in power, when it’s the Republicans, they’re merely in office”. It seems conservative talk is accepting of dodgy results and have now moved on. As such I’ll be a bit choosier about what I spend my money on. Once my Daily Wire subscription has passed I’ll start giving Steyn what he’s owed from me.

    The right of centre has been destroyed this year (is that why the media won’t shut up about Covid??). Trump had the world against him and it looks like he’s been brought down by hook or by crook, Boris Johnson is shrinking before everyone’s eyes, there’s no “right of centre” party in Australia (Abbott was our last hope but even he was “worse than Hitler”) or NZ. Where to from here? And I don’t believe the “surgical removal” theory. The defeat of Trump will embolden China and who will stop them?

    Thanks to James and Peter, you two are jewels and I enjoy listening to you and I wish you well.

    As far as I know, the Flagship podcast is still listenable for free, you just wouldn’t be able to comment on the site.  The same WAS true for GLoP, but I’m not sure if it still is.  Either way though, I can understand you not wanting to contribute monetarily, but don’t cut off your nose Lileks to spite your face Rob, or whatever.

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  19. Bishop Wash Member
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    Seco (View Comment):
    I’ve decided to cancel my subscription from Ricochet. While it’s usually a good podcast and I listen to the flagship podcast each week I’m getting a little tired of Rob continually insulting his audience. Its always been there, especially so on Glop and unfortunately he brings that snark and smarm to the Ricochet podcast. I think you can be suspicious of the result without being lumped in with Qanon types (I still don’t know who they are). Rob is unable to do that. Rob also went along with everything that the Left threw at Trump in relation to Russia/Ukraine etc. Who is crazy?

    Sorry to see you go but it’s understandable. There’s plenty of wonderful material in the member feed, which makes up for being insulted by management. Not sure why they support someone with worse manners than Trump and none of the benefits of conservative policies but here we are. 

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  20. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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  21. kedavis Member
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    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    BIGGER!!!

     

    Thank you. :-)

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  22. RufusRJones Member
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    Joker (View Comment):
    Mark and Occupant make a lot of the points that have frustrated me for the last couple of weeks. As if the inconsistent down ballot results make sense. As if halting the ballot counting simultaneously in several democrat strongholds just makes sense. Who are these Republican voters who want their taxes going up while their guns are being grabbed? This election result suggests the emergence of a previously unknown large contingent of ticket splitting masochists. I don’t remember reading about them in the pre election polls.

    These people do not have the same understanding of “the system” as I do.

    Why would you put a guy in that is so genuinely compromised by Russia and China?

    Things are going to be so much easier for the conservatives and libertarians after the bond market collapses.

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  23. RufusRJones Member
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    People always get upset about Rob. I can’t explain this, but as long as a Trump hater isn’t too close to the “organized” anti-Trump people, I don’t ever care. The Dispatch, Principles First, and so forth. The guy that runs Principles First has the dumbest twitter feed. 

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  24. RufusRJones Member
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    This is a “CATO scholar” and actual pollster. At some point, a reliable academic is going to have to dig into all of this. The interview starts halfway in.

    Patrick Basham, founder of the Democracy Institute, joins Howie Carr to discuss the abnormalities of the 2020 presidential election.

     

    https://howiecarrshow.com/2020/11/30/patrick-basham-11-30-20-hour-1/

     

     

     

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  25. Seco Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    People always get upset about Rob. I can’t explain this, but as long as a Trump hater isn’t too close to the “organized” anti-Trump people, I don’t ever care. The Dispatch, Principles First, and so forth. The guy that runs Principles First has the dumbest twitter feed.

    It’s just boring and ultimately insulting. Don’t ask for members and then diss them. I don’t need smoke blown up my backside, just a little respect.

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Seco (View Comment):
    It’s just boring and ultimately insulting. Don’t ask for members and then diss them. I don’t need smoke blown up my backside, just a little respect.

    That’s completely fair. 

    The big problem is, people like Rob just wish for stuff without really looking at what people like Michael Anton et. al. say. 

    For some reason, as long as they aren’t associated with any of the speakers at the Principles First convention, I tend to just be amused by it. The “organized” ones and the ones that get money from Pierre Omidyar (or are close to them) drive me up a wall. 

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  27. Steven Iverson Member
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    Erickson is full of it. He doesn’t know crap about what happened in GA.

    Trump’s lead counsel in Georgia, Ray Smith broke down how tens of thousands of illegal votes were cast.

     

    • 2,506 felons illegally voted
    • 66,248 under 18 registered to vote
    • 2,423 weren’t registered at all
    • 1,043 used a PO Box
    • 4,926 voted past the registration date
    • 10,315 died before the election
    • 395 voted in two states
    • 15,700 moved out of state before the election
    • 40,279 changed county and didn’t re-register to vote

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/want-numbers-trumps-lead-counsel-breaks-tens-thousands-illegal-votes-cast-georgia-video/

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  28. Steven Iverson Member
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    Democrats’ defense of Georgia election fraud video doesn’t hold water

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/democrats_defense_of_georgia_election_fraud_video_doesnt_hold_water.html

     

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  29. RufusRJones Member
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    I have to be honest. This is a completely gratuitous post, lol. 16 seconds. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  30. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

     

    No, 80 million people were voting for the Democrat.

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