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I know Mitch Romney was the liberal Republican Governor of Massachusetts, very much an outlier in the context of the national party.
How strong is the evidence that he was ever a conservative?
I don’t know what you are talking about. I would say they are average.
I think there is a lot of merit to this fear. That President Trump has been unable to make this case to voters is extremely troubling. Should be easy for him. Why can’t he do it and why are so few Republicans willing to help him? 🤔
Regarding this “King’s English” stuff, please listen to the Libby Emmons interview. The left wants you to “other-ize” everyone they can. Forget that.
Biden couldn’t have said it better.
We’re at 155+ comments in ~48 hours with no sign of slowing down. Have not seen the download numbers yet, but I expect that they will be strong. Those are the only two metrics I really care about, so if this show is a bomb, gimme more bombs.
He’s severely conservative.
A governor, the nominee of his party, a Senator. Plus the pedigree of his father. Very few other Republicans have a resume like that.
You may disagree with his policies and his positions on the issues. But he is one of the most successful Republican politicians of his generation.
Because they are by and large feckless cowards and prostitutes for culturally progressive corporate donors.
I don’t mind GOP flip floppers or RINOs or whatever you want to call it as long as they try like hell to limit the damage.
John McCain never upset me very much until that ACA vote.
He killed a woman by giving her cancer, strapped a dog to the roof of his car on a cross-country trip, kept women in binders, and tackled a student in high school to give him a haircut. That’s just what I remember off the top of my head.
He turned a deep blue state —one of the deepest blue given the Kennedy’s influence there— red (or at least pink). That he did not or could not govern it like Texas is simply a political reality. Still much better having Mitt Romney run that state instead of someone like Cuomo, Whitmore, (or speaking selfishly for myself here) Newsome.
Regardless, he’s now the junior Senator from one of the most conservative states in the country, and his lack of support for President Trump seems to have cost him very little in terms of popularity and approval ratings in his own state. Did Utah suddenly turn squishy or is something else going on here?
I forget who it is, but one of the major members of ricochet from Massachusetts says that Romney toned down Massachusetts care quite a bit because it was going to be inevitable anyway. It wouldn’t have done any good for him to go full frontal on it.
Plus they have a lot invested in telling us how horrible his presidency was going to be and then it turned out to be successful. They’ve now gone with the “remember the bad stuff we told you would happen but didn’t–it’s going to happen in the second term when he doesn’t have to face reelection” gambit.
Because Romney is a ripe peach, his ego got bruised and his feeling hurt. IF he had half the gumption to stand up for himself when he was unfairly smeared by the press and democrats operatives (apologies for the redundancy) He would have been president. Just ONCE. IF he corrected Candy Crowley – if he had objected to being called a murderer… IF he’d once one time stood up for himself. He would’ve been President. IF he wouldnt stand up for himself, why would any voter expect him to stand in for them. So Obama won an election that he should have lost. Now he’s more interested in slights against his fragile ego than he is in policy.
Now, Trump should know this and stop rubbing salt in the wounds. Trump could have Romney’s grudging policy support and votes when it counts. IF only he could stop picking at it.
why are so few Republicans willing to help him? 🤔Because they are by and large feckless cowards and prostitutes for culturally progressive corporate donors.Yes, it’s alway someone else’s fault on Planet Trump. Must be nice to have zero responsibility for one’s actions and statements. Wish I could get that deal.
It would be so much easier for these so-called “feckless cowards and prostitutes for culturally progressive corporate donors” to support the
candidate, sorry; the incumbent (!) from THEIR OWN PARTY. Yet they can’t or won’t do it, even half-heartedly. Doesn’t that tell you something?No Trump is to blame for his lack of traction within the Republican party.
He’s at best a fair weather friend. He expects a lot of loyalty but does little to reward that loyalty. Look at the example of Jeff Sessions.
Yeah, the dastard even got two scoops of ice cream, and got away with it.
This line of argument would have played great last January. Now, not so much.
The pandemic was not Trump’s fault. But his management of it, and the results of of his management —fairly or unfairly— are on his watch. That’s just a political reality and we’d be making that argument if Hillary had won.
And yet he has managed to demonstrate more loyalty to the people who voted for him than most people in congress.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king……and in the land of the venal, those who are merely narcissistic jerks are king.
If Hillary had won we’d probably be complaining about the new cabinet-level agency that was created to combat the virus, similar to the Department of Homeland Security after 9/11. The pain I’m feeling is because of my governor and her mishandling of the pandemic. Andrew Klavan has said that Trump should be getting more praise from conservative commentators for keeping the management at the state level and not grabbing power for the federal government.
True, He’s done his best to hammer his platform into policy, but He has let his anti-establishment rhetoric get the better of him though. He could have gotten a lot more done if he’d co-operated with congress a lot more closely.
Not sure how that answers my question.
In what sense did Romney turn Massachusetts into a red state? Did he deliver the state for the Republicans in the next Presidential election? Increase the number of Republicans in the Congressional delegation?
My impression of Massachusetts is that it’s blue as ever, even if it sometimes has a liberal Republican governor. But correct me if I’m wrong.
Obviously Romney posed as a conservative to win the Utah Senate seat in 2018. However, he all but guaranteed a Democratic takeover of the Senate next year when he voted to impeach Trump, not to mention increased the chances Democrats will get the White House as well. (Say goodbye to the Supreme Court!)
Until Romney took them by surprise — stabbed them in the back is the phrase some of them would probably use — endangered Republicans could dismiss the impeachment as purely partisan. Now, expect Romney’s “vote of conscience“ to feature in Democratic attack ads.
From skimming the first page of comments and observing the number of pages thereafter, this casual observation is going to seem even more trivial than it is. But what the Hell. Re: male breastfeeding. In my experience (and I’ve been through 2 grandnephews recently) an infant will go after anything that even vaguely resembles a nipple, looking for lunch and confident of having plenty of time to sort out any psycho-sexual difficulties later. I’m pretty sure the she-wolf that suckled Romulus and Remus was just stopping to scratch her ear when attacked.
This is a curious argument, so let me see if I understand it.
Romney is one Senator, but his vote (correctly decided, in my opinion) was so influential that “he all but guaranteed” that the Senate will be in Democratic hands next year.
Wow. That’s strength, my friend.
So it follows that those Republican Senators who lose their seats will not have the courage or intelligence to justify their continuation in Congress. In other words, they will be too weak to defend themselves and their own impeachment vote – and if that’s the case, they deserve their defeat – and we will be the worse for it.
But, you see, to Romney’s detractors, defeat of Senators will never be their fault, or the fault of Trump. Instead of Never Trump it will be Always Romney.
Again, nothing is ever the President’s fault on Planet Trump. His personal behavior, his decisions, his rhetoric, the situation the country finds itself in, are non-issues. Amazing.
The idea that Mitt Romney’s impeachment vote guaranteed (or “all but guaranteed”) a Democratic takeover of the Senate is…I don’t even know what to call it, the idea is so outlandish.
Has anyone even mentioned impeachment as an issue since the pandemic started? Joe Biden himself barely brings it up. Romney’s vote is inconsequential in the fight for Senate control. Those races are mostly fought over local issues anyway.
P.S. Given what has come down in the past couple of weeks, I think the SCOTUS argument isn’t as strong as it used to be.
You have a very different idea of what a governor’s primary job responsibility is than I do. I’ll settle for a state run by at least some Conservative principals (as a resident of CA, I dream about it). It’s not the Gov’s job to deliver the state for other R politicians. That’s the party’s job. Where were they?
To be fair though, it is possible to support Trump’s actions, deplore his tweets, and think Romney is an opportunistic swine.
I know it is possible, because I’m doing it right now.
Sure it’s possible for dyed-the-wool Republican voters. For swing voters and undecideds, that’s far more difficult.
Trump barely won last cycle. He needs those voters. What he’s doing now isn’t convincing them.