Coulter & Kaus at Columbia University, with Rob Long (Explicit)

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  1. Taras Coolidge

    At times, the hecklers make it hard to hear the panelists. (My alma mater covering itself with glory, as usual! )

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    • March 31, 2018, at 12:41 AM PDT
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  2. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    Great guests and a great discussion, but I think the audience detracted from the presentation. I think it would have been better without the audience and Ricochet members asking the questions.

    It could be a great discussion line for future programs – finding opposing forces and looking for common ground rather than an expanding battleground. If political leadership (of either party) is not looking for unity, maybe we should look for it.

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    • March 31, 2018, at 1:07 AM PDT
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  3. kedavis Member

    Too bad they didn’t record directly from the speakers’ desk mics, rather than mics set up across the room or whatever it was, that picked up a lot of crowd noise and other stuff too.

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    • March 31, 2018, at 2:35 AM PDT
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  4. RufusRJones Member

    Attention: Mickey Kaus

    Central planning is a proven stupid idea. 

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    • March 31, 2018, at 3:14 AM PDT
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  5. Columbo Inactive

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Attention: Mickey Kaus

    Central planning is a proven stupid idea.

    Attention: Ann Coulter

    You were an original “cultist”. You gave ammunition to the Anti’s for this meme.

    You are now the exact opposite of that. You’re shooting at us too, to the delight of the nevers.

    You weren’t before, and aren’t now, representative of the Trump general election voter.

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    • March 31, 2018, at 5:28 AM PDT
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  6. RufusRJones Member

    Mickey Kaus is smart and reasonable. Very well educated, but not a Ruling Class creep. When a guy like that speaks was so much certitude about Medicare, single-payer, and universal basic income it makes me very very nervous. It really makes me worried that this country is finished. There are so many things to try before we voluntarily set up a GOSPLANNED leviathan that we have to submit to. 

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    • March 31, 2018, at 5:53 AM PDT
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  7. Spin Inactive
    Spin Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Someone got it on Youtube:

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    • March 31, 2018, at 6:05 AM PDT
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  8. RufusRJones Member

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Mickey Kaus is smart and reasonable. Very well educated, but not a Ruling Class creep. When a guy like that speaks was so much certitude about Medicare, single-payer, and universal basic income it makes me very very nervous. It really makes me worried that this country is finished. There are so many things to try before we voluntarily set up a GOSPLANNED leviathan that we have to submit to.

    Along with that, so many judgmental anti-Trumpers that whine about the “stupid, shameful populists” love centralized power and centralized government, which is what created populism. 

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    • March 31, 2018, at 6:15 AM PDT
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  9. Icarus213 Coolidge

    This was great, thanks for hosting this, Rob.

    I think Coulter is an outlier in thinking that 1) Immigration was a key reason to vote for Trump, and 2) that it is now a reason to be profoundly disappointed in Trump. I don’t know anyone else for whom both 1 and 2 are true. Pretty much everyone I know who voted for Trump for ideological reasons still is very much with him; I don’t think they are waiting for substantially more progress on the policy front or else they are ready to primary him. And that includes the wall- I don’t think most Trump voters care if the wall is actually built by 2020 or not. Ann’s standards on real change are probably too high for her view to be shared by as many people as she might suspect.

     

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    • March 31, 2018, at 8:49 PM PDT
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  10. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Editor Note:

    Please adhere to the code of conduct.

    Why do the students (?) who disagree have to yell angrily, heckle, interrupt, harangue, challenge, and generally act unpleasant? Has no one ever taught these people how to make their points without being complete [redacted] Why would anyone, ever, agree to speak at a university?

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    • March 31, 2018, at 9:16 PM PDT
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  11. Freesmith Inactive

    Icarus213 (View Comment):
    I think Coulter is an outlier in thinking that 1) Immigration was a key reason to vote for Trump, and 2) that it is now a reason to be profoundly disappointed in Trump. I don’t know anyone else for whom both 1 and 2 are true.

    Allow me to introduce myself.

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    • April 1, 2018, at 6:34 AM PDT
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  12. Taras Coolidge

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Why do the students (?) who disagree have to yell angrily, heckle, interrupt, harangue, challenge, and generally act unpleasant? Has no one ever taught these people how to make their points without being complete [redacted] Why would anyone, ever, agree to speak at a university?

     Progressives’ self-esteem is bound up in their politics. So when you challenge their political beliefs you engage in a hurtful, even blasphemous attack on their core beliefs. In other words, they make things unpleasant on purpose to try to shut up people they disagree with.

     Recently I’ve come to understand progressivism as the most powerful religion in the West today. It slips under the radar because it doesn’t have a deity. As a result, while the Supreme Court enforces a ban on public subsidy to religion, it gives progressivism a free pass to rake in government money. 

     It’s also a fundamentalist religion in the sense that if reason and evidence conflict with progressive dogma, then reason and evidence must give way. 

     

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    • April 1, 2018, at 6:37 AM PDT
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  13. RufusRJones Member

    Taras (View Comment):
    they make things unpleasant on purpose to try to shut up people they disagree with.

    So much of civil discourse or whatever is a waste of time now because of this i.e. town halls. Then they complain about the lack of town halls. 

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    • April 1, 2018, at 6:43 AM PDT
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  14. Icarus213 Coolidge

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Why would anyone, ever, agree to speak at a university?

    I suspect this is sort of the answer to your question.

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    • April 1, 2018, at 7:04 AM PDT
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  15. Concretevol Thatcher

    Coulter sold her books, that’s all that matters to her. She doesn’t give a damn about conservatism, only Ann. Maybe self promotion was really what she admired about Trump most of all.

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    • April 1, 2018, at 9:06 AM PDT
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  16. Freesmith Inactive

    It’s nice to see this morning that President Trump is reacting to the “Refugee Caravan.” 

    His tweets are spot-on.

    The best resolution to this planned confrontation at the border is that the caravan never arrives.

    By the way, the most striking criticism Ann Coulter made during her colloquy with Kaus and Long was the despicable evasion of immigration and other National Questions during the so-called Republican debates.

    Does anyone here argue with her contention that candidate debates are the exact right time to talk about issues where the candidates fundamentally disagree, as opposed to being opportunities for conservative virtue-signaling about taxes, abortion and Israel? 

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    • April 1, 2018, at 9:15 AM PDT
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  17. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    Freesmith (View Comment):

    By the way, the most striking criticism Ann Coulter made during her colloquy with Kaus and Long was the despicable evasion of immigration and other National Questions during the so-called Republican debates.

    Does anyone here argue with her contention that candidate debates are the exact right time to talk about issues where the candidates fundamentally disagree, as opposed to being opportunities for conservative virtue-signaling about taxes, abortion and Israel?

    It’s the exact reason I don’t watch the debates. I know what they position themselves on that’s the same. (and lo and behold when elected never seem to get around to)

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    • April 2, 2018, at 4:13 AM PDT
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  18. Duane Oyen Member
    Duane Oyen Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    It’s really disappointing; I wanted to hear this, and the audio is so bad for people with less than perfect hearing that it is near impossible to follow. The speakers always need to have mics right by their mouths- the room echo is too big a challenge to decipher.

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    • April 2, 2018, at 11:31 AM PDT
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  19. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    and other stuff too.

    Sounded like @roblong was unwrapping and consuming a cough drop/breath mint/something at one point.

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    • April 2, 2018, at 5:08 PM PDT
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  20. Full Size Tabby Member

    The heckler did a fine job confirming the views of many of us that leftists cannot be part of civilized society.

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    • April 16, 2018, at 11:41 AM PDT
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