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No guests this week, just our hosts reflecting on a week that will not soon, if ever, be forgotten. We look at the testimony from both Kavanaugh and Ford, the reaction and remarks from the Judiciary Committee, from the media, and from friends. We wind up with some predictions from the hosts as to whether or not Brett Kavanaugh will get confirmed. Give us your predictions in the comments.
Music from this week’s show: Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around by Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty
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Jonah likes to say that “talking down” Western Civilization is a bad idea/dangerous thing, because (basically) “we talked ourselves into Western Civilization, and we can talk ourselves out of it.” (Also “suicide is a choice,” etc.) What he doesn’t seem to see is that it’s possible to “talk ourselves out of” smaller things too. Such as, if you continually “point out that Trump is still the same nasty little bully he has always been,” that’s bound to have an impact on things like…. oh, let’s see… SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS???
And like I said, the primaries were over.
What is the problem with this? Seriously.
Indeed.
You may have chosen to believe Moore’s accusers because you think he’s a lunatic. People on the Left are choosing to believe Kavanaugh’s accusers because they think he’s a lunatic. NeverTrumpers are choosing to believe Kavanaugh’s accusers because they think Trump is a lunatic.
There was no more evidence against Moore than there is against Kavanaugh. Many people on the Right abetted the Left’s attack on Moore and now the same attack is being used on Kavanaugh.
Why do people want Trump and Roy Moore?
Jonah has said many times that if the election came down to him that he would’ve voted for Trump.
Hillary Clinton and Doug Jones.
People are sick of cultural Marxism and they want their cut of the Keynesian graft, too.
That’s a cop out. I think one should always vote as if the election hinges on your decision. I waited in line for over two hours in Brooklyn, NY, to vote for Mitt Romney in 2012. I knew New York was going to go to Obama, but I did my part anyway. Jonah didn’t vote for Trump. Fine. He didn’t have to. He doesn’t get any points from me for saying he would have if it had mattered. It did matter and he didn’t.
I once heard that any economist will tell you that voting is a waste of time. Having said that, helping Trump get within 1.5% in a state where the GOP POTUS loses by an average of 6% was quite satisfying. 40,000 votes. LOL
Why would something like that happen? Because people are sick of multiculturalism and…
Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™
Whoever said that is wrong. Also, I don’t think we’re sick of multiculturalism as much as horrified by the efforts on the left to divide us into groups who must vote certain ways because of color, religion, etc., rather than acknowledging the positive values that make us all Americans.
I’m sure he’ll be crushed when he finds out. Yeah, yeah, yeah: no one gets any “points” unless they were for Trump before he even decided to run. I live in California and didn’t vote for Trump, but had the state been in play, it would’ve been a closer call for me. I don’t consider that a cop out. But of course, the same people who had days before told me that My Vote Wasn’t Needed and that There’s No Stopping The Juggernaut Of Trump’s Victory, and implied that I might be herded into some sort of camp for my disloyalty, told me in the wake of his narrow victory that I was still to blame because I didn’t help to Pump Up The Glorious Popular Vote Total (Even Though The Popular Vote Is Totally Beside The Point), so I figured there was no reason to worry about it further.
The strange advocacy of Trump as some sort of Maximum Leader is profoundly strange to me, and I find it pretty dumb. You’ll just have to believe me when I say I don’t get it but that I respect the opinions of those who are pro-Trumpers. When he’s right and does a good job, I say so. When he isn’t and doesn’t, I say so. Actually, I haven’t done much of the latter on Ricochet lately–not that that counts for anything. If that isn’t enough, that’s just the way it goes.
Right. I mean forcing it or diversity down people’s throats artificially. Liberal sociologist Robert Putnam proved it.
I used to work in the Seattle U district and had friends on Capital Hill. Multiculturalism is obviously a good thing there. I loved it.
Walker
Well, this was certainly a dispiriting podcast. I was having a Roshoman “hour” where it seems that everyone was projecting their past personal experiences and college episodes as to “who dunnit.” Guzzling beer and attempted rape do not come in pairs! If that were so, we’d have millions of victimized women (and men) in this country.
Thanks for the heads up, Walker. I rarely miss the flagship, but this is one topic of which I’ve had my fill of speculation.
Strange to me, especially as only anti Trump types see it.
Well, there are two reasons that could be, which is at the core of our disagreement, I suppose.
Maybe. But, why impune Kristol’s motives when it’s easier and more consistent in this case to impune his logic.
Sure. Trump supporters are deplorable.
I posted this earlier and can’t possibly say it any better than the writers here: Julie Kelly, a former Kristol fan, writes succinctly about her reasons for disillusionment with the him in The Federalist. Here’s another excellent article in the New Yorker about Kristol’s lack of influence in Washington and how it all came about.
Max, are you taking over for Hypatia? Moore was banned from the local mall for hitting on young girls. There was plenty of evidence, enough to convince Richard Shelby, who advised Repubs to shun him.
George W Bush was a cheerleader at Yale, not a yell leader at A&M. Rick Perry was a yell leader, though.
I would like to say I have more understanding for the frustration felt by the intelligent Trump supporters [or Trump sceptics, if they prefer] towards NeverTrumpers like myself after this week. For some masochistic reason I’ve been watching CNN and MSNBC and hating it. I get wound up as bad as Sean Hannity when I hear “Republicans” like Joe Scarborough, some supposed consultant named Del Perchio[?], Nicole Wallace, Anna Navaro, etc. slam Kavanaugh for being a liar, a drunk, a danger to society, all for a pat on the head from their fanbase. I’m still never going to vote for Trump, but I hope I haven’t gone off the deep end the way they have.
@roblong, I totally disagree with you all over the place. Thank you!
I’m young enough that you would probably consider me a kid, but old enough that I’ll beg your pardon for having had been kind of angry during the whole “hearing” (and “post-hearing” circus).
But I thought you were great!
You deserve a nomination for Adult of the Year (if that’s a thing – if not it should be). Diddo for Robinson and Lileks.
Therein lies your problem. I switch between Fox, CNN and MSNBC. The only one I super can’t take is MSNBC as they are just so out there with the vitriol. And Rachel Maddow has really jumped the shark with her Russian obsession.
I’m taking care of a friend’s animals and he uses Sling TV, which does not offer Fox. Strange, because it’s 30% owned by Fox. Update, I think it’s Hulu that’s 30% owned by Fox.
That’s a convenient excuse, but a few thousand fewer Jonahs would have removed the “he lost the popular vote!” mantra. And a few thousand MORE Jonahs would have brought us President Hillary.
And really, couldn’t ANYONE make that claim? Was there any state where ONE VOTE would have turned it – that state – the other way? I don’t think so. Hence the point.
I also call 911 whenever I see a collision, even if there are a lot of other people around. Because if everyone assumes that someone else called, then NOBODY calls. (Also, it seems if they get multiple calls, they take it more seriously and get there quicker. And if they ask me “do you see anyone injured?” I say “You’re supposed to come find out.”)
On the plus side though, anything Trump does that Jonah likes/agrees with, we get to yell NO THANKS TO YOU!!!
This is all about money. Particularly with Scarborough, how could the guy change so much? Nicole Wallace is just a political mercenary.
I just listened to that Max Boot interview. He thinks that many Trump supporters hate minorities and are White Christian supremacists. He thinks the NFL doesn’t have private employment contracts with their players.
These guys are falling apart because the system they believe in is breaking down and it freaks them out mentally, or they are losing money, or they are losing out socially or something.
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Kavanaugh is a gigantic roadblock for their any-means-necessary statist conspiracy and social engineering.