A Blast From The Past

You asked for more face time with The Founders®, and here it is: our first Question Time show of 2020 (there will be more!). We cover some Ricochet history, get into a feisty debate about abortion, take a brief break with Henry Olsen, host of our new Horse Race podcast to make some hay (see what we did there?) on impeachment and some key Senate races. Also, Lileks opines on the new Star Trek series, and the hosts pick a historical moment they’d like to visit once we achieve a critical mass of members (what are YOU waiting for? Join today!).

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Music from this week’s show: Happy Feet by The Manhattan Rythm Kings

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  1. Miffed White Male Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):
    It’s primarily about the battles of Saipan and Okinawa, but what it really is is a brief for why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not just justified but necessary.

    One thing I read contrary to popular myth is Truman did not agonize over the decision to drop the bombs. He was more than willing to use the new weapon on a fierce enemy. The real question was whether or not to demonstrate the weapon first and give Japan a chance to surrender. With only two bombs left after the Trinity test, he chose to drop both with the implied threat more would quickly follow. It worked.

    There would be a good argument for demonstrating to the Japanese the horror of a nuclear bomb if they surrendered after Hiroshima. The generals told the Emperor that the Americans only had one bomb and that Hiroshima was an anomaly. It took Nagasaki to convince them to surrender and even then, Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    But how would that demonstration have worked exactly?

    I suppose they could have sent Hirohito a letter:

    “Dear Mr. Hirohito.

    Next Tuesday at 9:30 AM sharp, we’d like to show you a little something.  Please go out into your garden and face south.  A plane will be flying by in the distance.  We suggest you wear sunglasses.

    Sincerely, 

    Doug

    P.S.  No fair trying to shoot the plane down!

     

     

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  2. Jon1979 Inactive
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    James Lileks and friends in a speakeasy at the end of the day, June 1, 1926. James is the first to recognize the flatfoots are raiding the joint. Suddenly he wishes he had gone to Buckingham Palace as originally planned to attend the christening of the Princess Elizabeth.

    It was still a better choice for him than spending a winter in the Overlook Hotel up in Colorado….

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  3. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Regarding the business model of this place:

    Ricochet is really good at aggregating good podcasts and providing an intelligent place to discuss them. I don’t think there’s anything else like it, anywhere. I don’t get why there aren’t more comments on the Podcasts.

    Sometimes there are. But I guess the usually rather low numbers are a direct or indirect result of the small membership. I would have figured that 50-60,000 would be the MINIMUM, but to hear that it actually hovers around 5,000 was very surprising. To me that sounds more like Bulwark numbers. And I would expect – or maybe just hope – that I could count the paying Dispatch members just on both hands, without needing to use my toes too.

    Perhaps the problem comes down to the name. “Ricochet” just doesn’t seem like much of a grabber. And for right or wrong, the name does make a difference.

    Dilbert – The Name

    It’s much more due to two factors: one, the vast majority of our listeners are not members. Two, the vast majority of our listeners consume the shows on mobile devices, usually while doing something else (driving, walking the dog, household chores, etc.). It’s a big ask to expect people to come back here after the fact and comment.

    We always include links back to the Ricochet post in the text that podcast apps display, but I suspect most listeners never see that.

    We’re not changing the name of the site and there is zero evidence that it’s an issue with anyone.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    … I would have figured that 50-60,000 would be the MINIMUM, but to hear that it actually hovers around 5,000 was very surprising. To me that sounds more like Bulwark numbers. …

    Perhaps the problem comes down to the name. “Ricochet” just doesn’t seem like much of a grabber. And for right or wrong, the name does make a difference.

    Dilbert – The Name

    It’s much more due to two factors: one, the vast majority of our listeners are not members. Two, the vast majority of our listeners consume the shows on mobile devices, usually while doing something else (driving, walking the dog, household chores, etc.). It’s a big ask to expect people to come back here after the fact and comment.

    We always include links back to the Ricochet post in the text that podcast apps display, but o suspect most listened never see that.

    We’re not changing the name of the site and there is zero evidence that it’s an issue with anyone.

    I didn’t mean “an issue” that it causes people to listen but not join, or whatever, because the name is actually somehow off-putting.  But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some.  A catchier name could help with that.

    I can understand never changing, for various practical reasons.  But Ricochet could still have been an unfortunate choice.

    In my youth, I remember seeing a magazine that I think was distributed free, called The Plain Truth.  I doubt anyone would have bothered to even give it a second look if it had been called Some Opinions.

    In the “Pearls Before Swine” comic strip, the evil cable company is called Bombast Cable.  Now there’s a name!

     

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    As for Playboy, the stock certificate has a naked woman on the stock certificate. Perhaps not something to frame in your office.

    My suggestion is that you have a Class B Stock Offering where the owners of the Class B cannot vote, but pay $X to have their own stock certificate for Ricochet. Since your losses in the last year were only in the four figures, such a stock offering could lead to you making a profit this year.

    My Cod, Gary! We don’t don’t don’t want to see Peter and Rob nekkid on those stock certificates! 😜

    The other thing is, buying stock certificates is good for one year.  What about next year, and the year after?

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  6. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    … I would have figured that 50-60,000 would be the MINIMUM, but to hear that it actually hovers around 5,000 was very surprising. To me that sounds more like Bulwark numbers. …

    Perhaps the problem comes down to the name. “Ricochet” just doesn’t seem like much of a grabber. And for right or wrong, the name does make a difference.

    Dilbert – The Name

    It’s much more due to two factors: one, the vast majority of our listeners are not members. Two, the vast majority of our listeners consume the shows on mobile devices, usually while doing something else (driving, walking the dog, household chores, etc.). It’s a big ask to expect people to come back here after the fact and comment.

    We always include links back to the Ricochet post in the text that podcast apps display, but o suspect most listened never see that.

    We’re not changing the name of the site and there is zero evidence that it’s an issue with anyone.

    I didn’t mean “an issue” that it causes people to listen but not join, or whatever, because the name is actually somehow off-putting. But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    I can understand never changing, for various practical reasons. But Ricochet could still have been an unfortunate choice.

    Except for the podcast you are currently commenting on, the name doesn’t come into play on any of our other shows. It’s a non-issue.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Except for the podcast you are currently commenting on, the name doesn’t come into play on any of our other shows. It’s a non-issue.

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the whole site.

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  8. J Ro Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Peter Robinson (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Al Sparks (View Comment):
    Like Peter, I do have a regard for Truman because his administration started resisting the Soviet Union, fighting what became the Cold War.

    I like Truman because he dropped the atomic bombs on Japan to end the war. If it weren’t for his decision, it’s likely my wife and I wouldn’t have been born. Our fathers were marines in the Pacific, and probably would not have survived the invasion of Japan . . .

    Stad, make that you, your wife–and me. My father was at Okinawa, on a Coast Guard Cutter that was being used as a minesweeper. He spoke very little about the War, but he was certain that he and his shipmates would have participated in the invasion of Japan that would have taken place if Truman hadn’t dropped the bombs. After seeing the resistance the Japanese put up on Okinawa, he felt certain any battle over the home islands would have represented a bloodbath. Truman, he always believed, saved tens of thousands of American lives, including his.

    There’s a great book I read a few years ago, “The Fleet at Flood Tide” by James D Hornfischer.

    It’s primarily about the battles of Saipan and Okinawa, but what it really is is a brief for why the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not just justified but necessary.

    I have had the privilege of exploring all four of those rather remote battlefields and their various memorials. Particularly unforgettable are the “suicide cliffs” of Saipan, where parents threw their children to their deaths before jumping themselves. They had been assured by their leaders that the Americans would eat them all.

    For a fascinating, detailed look at the last 24 hours of the war from the Japanese perspective, there’s Japan’s Longest Day by The Pacific War Research Society, a Japanese group which devoted eight years to researching the struggle “to confront surrender–or annihilation” and published a definitive and engrossing book about it. [Perhaps it is a good model, @Peter Robinson, for a short book about the historic happenings of a single day.] It makes clear that many in the halls of Japanese power were prepared to take the entire country and everyone in it down in flames.

    “The sacred honor of Japan and her Imperial Army would then remain unstained by surrender. Only death could cancel defeat; only more death could appease the souls of the already dead.”

    If Japanese leaders and commanders were seriously plotting to kill their own emperor and believed all their troops and citizens should fight to the death rather than surrender, how lucky that our parents and grandparents were serving under a Commander in Chief who had served in the trenches of WWI and knew from experience the importance and value of taking care of his troops.

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  9. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    As for Playboy, the stock certificate has a naked woman on the stock certificate. Perhaps not something to frame in your office.

    My suggestion is that you have a Class B Stock Offering where the owners of the Class B cannot vote, but pay $X to have their own stock certificate for Ricochet. Since your losses in the last year were only in the four figures, such a stock offering could lead to you making a profit this year.

    My Cod, Gary! We don’t don’t don’t want to see Peter and Rob nekkid on those stock certificates! 😜

    The other thing is, buying stock certificates is good for one year. What about next year, and the year after?

    Hey, Class C stock!  And then Class D!

     

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  10. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the whole site.

    I was responding to this:

     But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not changing name.

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  11. Gary Robbins Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the whole site.

    I was responding to this:

    But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not changing name.

    I will know that we are truly arrived when I google “Ricochet” and we are the first choice, and not a wrestler, a 1991 film, or the definition of the word “ricochet.”

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the whole site.

    I was responding to this:

    But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not changing name.

    I will know that we are truly arrived when I google “Ricochet” and we are the first choice, and not a wrestler, a 1991 film, or the definition of the word “ricochet.”

    I believe google takes “donations” for that.

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  13. Blue Yeti Admin
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    IMG_0609Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the pop whole site.

    I was responding to this:

    But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not changing name.

    I will know that we are truly arrived when I google “Ricochet” and we are the first choice, and not a wrestler, a 1991 film, or the definition of the word “ricochet.”

    The definition is Google’s standard response to searching for one word. Nothing we can do about that. The wrestler is also a standard Google “feature” that favors often searched celebrities. In my results, we’re number 3, which I think is pretty good, considering we have never paid Google for search results placement.

    IMG_0609

     

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  14. Gary Robbins Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    IMG_0609Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the pop whole site.

    I was responding to this:

    But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not changing name.

    I will know that we are truly arrived when I google “Ricochet” and we are the first choice, and not a wrestler, a 1991 film, or the definition of the word “ricochet.”

    The definition is Google’s standard response to searching for one word. Nothing we can do about that. The wrestler is also a standard Google “feature” that favors often searched celebrities. In my results, we’re number 3, which I think is pretty good, considering we have never paid Google for search results placement.

    IMG_0609

    Now you have my curiosity up.  This is from the Blue Yeti’s Ricochet’s account.  I note a bell shaped icon, with the number 18.  What does that stand for?

    Also, what does “IMG” stand for?

    • #74
  15. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    IMG_0609Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Not for individual podcasts, I meant for the pop whole site.

    I was responding to this:

    But if you accept that the vast majority of casual listeners will never bother to join, then obviously you need to get a lot more total listeners, so that even the fraction of those who join will “balance the books” and then some. A catchier name could help with that.

    Doesn’t matter. We’re not changing name.

    I will know that we are truly arrived when I google “Ricochet” and we are the first choice, and not a wrestler, a 1991 film, or the definition of the word “ricochet.”

    The definition is Google’s standard response to searching for one word. Nothing we can do about that. The wrestler is also a standard Google “feature” that favors often searched celebrities. In my results, we’re number 3, which I think is pretty good, considering we have never paid Google for search results placement.

    IMG_0609

    Now you have my curiosity up. This is from the Blue Yeti’s Ricochet’s account. I note a bell shaped icon, with the number 18. What does that stand for?

    Also, what does “IMG” stand for?

    IMG is a link to a video file (doesn’t work right from mobile @max) but you can click on it to see my search results. Not sure what you mean by the bell icon. 

     

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  16. Arahant Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    IMG is a link to a video file (doesn’t work right from mobile @max) but you can click on it to see my search results. Not sure what you mean by the bell icon. 

    You may have to refresh to get the whole video again.

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    No, it’s Michael Chabon on Picard.

    I too was dismayed. I can see where one might glean that from some issues mentioned in the first ep, but it’s so oblique it’s hardly analogous to specific modern politics – and besides, Trek has always skewed towards the sort of utopian progressivism of a post-scarcity society.

    And I’ve also heard that it “explores” whether holograms etc are “life.” I don’t think that’s a “Deep” subject at all, and frankly don’t believe it needs to be “explored.” The answer, quite simply, is no.

    That wasn’t in the first ep, which dealt with whether androids are life forms. You know, like Data. At the time Picard is set, they’ve been banned.

    (Matter/antimatter reactors, holo-emitters, etc, do not evolve naturally; and certainly not the pre-set programs that they run. If you “beamed down” a couple holograms – Holo-Adam and Holo-Eve, say – to a virgin planet, they would immediately disappear. etc, etc.) But even if someone believes that does need to be “explored,” it’s more like one episode, not a whole series.

    Already been covered in Voyager, which had a magic mobile holoemitter, and they explored the issue of sentience and personality development over the course of 7 years.

    It also, if I believe what I hear/read, is clearly set in the “Kelvin timeline” which was claptrap crap from the outset.

    Matter of opinion, but it did free up Trek from dragging around so much canon it couldn’t do anything new.

    Maybe it’s too early, since the writer of this has seen the first THREE episodes, but anyway:

    That was the “bafflingly bad” review I referenced, and it’s a steaming heap.

    P.S.  In the podcast, you said you didn’t read that review.

    And it doesn’t matter how many subroutines were added to the Doctor’s program, it’s still just a simulation.

    • #77
  18. J Ro Member
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    @JRo

    Taras (View Comment):

    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    I appreciate your answering my question (the best Democrat president), and it’s great that it generated some discussion.

    Since Andrew Klavan was a part of my question, Rob wanted to know what his pick was, and it was Harry Truman.

    Like Peter, I do have a regard for Truman because his administration started resisting the Soviet Union, fighting what became the Cold War. I agree with Peter about his bad domestic policies. I’ve referred to Truman as a socialist, though Truman would probably have emphatically denied it, especially since socialists were called “pinkos” at the time (communists were “reds”).

    Yet, for me, Truman crossed the line when he attempted to nationalize the coal mines as a result of a national strike (overthrown by the Supreme Court).

    Arguably, LBJ was the closest thing we ever had to a real “Manchurian candidate“.

    His bloody-minded bungling of the Vietnam war disillusioned the American people about resisting Communist aggression, while his social programs, all designed without spending ceilings of any kind, continue to squeeze out other forms of government spending, and threaten to bankrupt the country.

    Democrats do foreign policy for domestic political considerations. That’s why they spent the Cold War passing treaties that couldn’t be verified, but sounded good to the American public. (See also: the Iran Deal.)

    A prime example of this is Harry Truman, who was content to sit on his hands while our allies in the war against Japan, the Chinese Nationalists, were overrun by the Communists, who mostly sat out the war.

    But then he found that the Democrats were being blamed for the loss of China; so, in the spirit of locking the door after the horse has bolted, he belatedly went to war to keep tiny South Korea from following suit.

    I’m not a huge fan of Truman, but I have to defend him for ending WWII asap and I blame the Japanese themselves for making it necessary to use atomic bombs.

    In the case of China in WWII, I think it’s unfair to blame Truman for much since he didn’t become President until April, 1945. By then the China-Burma-India theater had already reached stalemate, Japan was being carpet bombed from new bases established in the Marianas, and the Battle of Okinawa had begun. General Stilwell’s efforts in CBI had been frustrated for years by Chiang Kai-shek, Communists and other Chinese, British, and US commanders, and by FDR, who had already recalled and replaced Stilwell from his command in China in October, 1944.

    But I agree it was a messy powder keg after the war and the Democrats had no one else to blame for follow-on consequences.

    Edit: @Taras. I see now that I completely misread your paragraph on Truman in China and we are in agreement.

    • #78
  19. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    @roblong came up with those two alternatives (a thong and commando) a little too quickly, don’t you think?  Hehe . . .

    • #79
  20. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    What is his email address?

    http://www.printingstockcertificatesfortheRicochetstore.com . . .

    • #80
  21. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    EJHill (View Comment):

    James Lileks and friends in a speakeasy at the end of the day, June 1, 1926. James is the first to recognize the flatfoots are raiding the joint. Suddenly he wishes he had gone to Buckingham Palace as originally planned to attend the christening of the Princess Elizabeth.

    It’s clear James still uses a Harry’s razor on his legs . . .

    • #81
  22. Stad Coolidge
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    @Stad

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true.  OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more.  It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

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  23. Stad Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    As for Playboy, the stock certificate has a naked woman on the stock certificate. Perhaps not something to frame in your office.

    My suggestion is that you have a Class B Stock Offering where the owners of the Class B cannot vote, but pay $X to have their own stock certificate for Ricochet. Since your losses in the last year were only in the four figures, such a stock offering could lead to you making a profit this year.

    My Cod, Gary! We don’t don’t don’t want to see Peter and Rob nekkid on those stock certificates! 😜

    Speak for yourself . . .

    If it ever happened, I can picture @bossmongo looking at the stock and saying, “I’d tap that.”

    • #83
  24. Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true. OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more. It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

    There was an alternate history trilogy I read a few years ago that I found fun. It started in 2025 with a carrier group, led by the USS Hillary Clinton, that had a research vessel perform an experiment that sent the group back in time to the battle of Midway. The varieties of the accident caused one ship to reappear somewhere on land allowing the Soviets to find it, along with the tech and history. (This caused people to be purged earlier.)

    The race for the bomb is faster now. The Soviets let the cat out of the bag, striking a site in Poland in 1944, because the US was building a stockpile first. Then FDR authorizes a fleet of B-52s to strike Berlin with three weapons.

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  25. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true. OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more. It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

    There was an alternate history trilogy I read a few years ago that I found fun. It started in 2025 with a carrier group, led by the USS Hillary Clinton, that had a research vessel perform an experiment that sent the group back in time to the battle of Midway. The varieties of the accident caused one ship to reappear somewhere on land allowing the Soviets to find it, along with the tech and history. (This caused people to be purged earlier.)

    The race for the bomb is faster now. The Soviets let the cat out of the bag, striking a site in Poland in 1944, because the US was building a stockpile first. Then FDR authorizes a fleet of B-52s to strike Berlin with three weapons.

    That sounds interesting.  The name of the book?

    • #85
  26. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true. OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more. It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

    There was an alternate history trilogy I read a few years ago that I found fun. It started in 2025 with a carrier group, led by the USS Hillary Clinton, that had a research vessel perform an experiment that sent the group back in time to the battle of Midway. The varieties of the accident caused one ship to reappear somewhere on land allowing the Soviets to find it, along with the tech and history. (This caused people to be purged earlier.)

    The race for the bomb is faster now. The Soviets let the cat out of the bag, striking a site in Poland in 1944, because the US was building a stockpile first. Then FDR authorizes a fleet of B-52s to strike Berlin with three weapons.

    Given Hillary’s general competence in handling health care reform, foreign policy, or any other thing the Smartest Woman in the History of the Universe was tasked to do on the national stage, having the USS Hillary Clinton end up on dry land somewhere in Siberia or the Ural Mountains would be kind of appropriate…

    • #86
  27. Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true. OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more. It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

    There was an alternate history trilogy I read a few years ago that I found fun. It started in 2025 with a carrier group, led by the USS Hillary Clinton, that had a research vessel perform an experiment that sent the group back in time to the battle of Midway. The varieties of the accident caused one ship to reappear somewhere on land allowing the Soviets to find it, along with the tech and history. (This caused people to be purged earlier.)

    The race for the bomb is faster now. The Soviets let the cat out of the bag, striking a site in Poland in 1944, because the US was building a stockpile first. Then FDR authorizes a fleet of B-52s to strike Berlin with three weapons.

    That sounds interesting. The name of the book?

    It’s the Axis of Time series by John Birmingham. I liked little things like how the future people are oh so progressive with integrated troops and female commanders while at the same time are repulsed by the prevalence of smoking and are oppressive trying to ban it around them.

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  28. Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true. OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more. It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

    There was an alternate history trilogy I read a few years ago that I found fun. It started in 2025 with a carrier group, led by the USS Hillary Clinton, that had a research vessel perform an experiment that sent the group back in time to the battle of Midway. The varieties of the accident caused one ship to reappear somewhere on land allowing the Soviets to find it, along with the tech and history. (This caused people to be purged earlier.)

    The race for the bomb is faster now. The Soviets let the cat out of the bag, striking a site in Poland in 1944, because the US was building a stockpile first. Then FDR authorizes a fleet of B-52s to strike Berlin with three weapons.

    Given Hillary’s general competence in handling health care reform, foreign policy, or any other thing the Smartest Woman in the History of the Universe was tasked to do on the national stage, having the USS Hillary Clinton end up on dry land somewhere in Siberia or the Ural Mountains would be kind of appropriate…

    Alas it wasn’t the carrier that ended up on land. One of the destroyers or cruisers that was on the edge of the effect bubble from the research vessel.

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  29. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Imperial Japan might have persisted if they had known that America was out of nukes.

    Very true. OTOH, even if they knew we only had one more, they were smart enough to know we could make more. It would only be a matter of time as we kept them contained on their mainland . . .

    There was an alternate history trilogy I read a few years ago that I found fun. It started in 2025 with a carrier group, led by the USS Hillary Clinton, that had a research vessel perform an experiment that sent the group back in time to the battle of Midway. The varieties of the accident caused one ship to reappear somewhere on land allowing the Soviets to find it, along with the tech and history. (This caused people to be purged earlier.)

    The race for the bomb is faster now. The Soviets let the cat out of the bag, striking a site in Poland in 1944, because the US was building a stockpile first. Then FDR authorizes a fleet of B-52s to strike Berlin with three weapons.

    Given Hillary’s general competence in handling health care reform, foreign policy, or any other thing the Smartest Woman in the History of the Universe was tasked to do on the national stage, having the USS Hillary Clinton end up on dry land somewhere in Siberia or the Ural Mountains would be kind of appropriate…

    Alas it wasn’t the carrier that ended up on land. One of the destroyers or cruisers that was on the edge of the effect bubble from the research vessel.

    Too bad. It would have made a perfect allegory. But was history at least set back negatively by actions initiated on board the USS Hillary Clinton? That would make the ship into the Sister Edith Keeler of the story….

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  30. Mister Dog Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Regarding the business model of this place:

    Ricochet is really good at aggregating good podcasts and providing an intelligent place to discuss them. I don’t think there’s anything else like it, anywhere. I don’t get why there aren’t more comments on the Podcasts.

    The first thing I look at when I log in to Ricochet is the podcast comments.

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