In the Before Times, when we’d all walk around bookstores putting our dangerously diseased digits on various tomes without a care in the world, did you notice a recurring phenomenon? It’s been the case for the past few years that the nonfiction sections of any major bookstore are filled with a glut of “Trump era” books – either memoirs from officials, books attempting to psychologize the man himself, or vaguely rant-y polemics that are big on rhetoric but light on substance. What if, hypothetically, you wanted to torture yourself by entering a purgatory-like state in which you read around 150 of those things? That’s what Carlos Lozado – book critic for the Washington Post – did so that you don’t have to.

Today, Jonah speaks with Lozado about how he was able to synthesize the “Trump canon” into a set of identifiable narratives about this moment in American politics, eventually resulting in his own new book, What Were We Thinking: A Brief Intellectual History of the Trump Era.

Show Notes:

Carlos’ book, What Were We Thinking

Jonah on The Greening of America: “Stupendously awful”

Miles Taylor, “senior administration official”?


The largely unread followup to Fire and Fury

Don McGahn’s crazy 2 years in the administration

Carlos reviews Michael Cohen’s bizarre book

Solzhenitsyn in prison

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  1. Charlotte Member

    Enjoyed this one quite a bit. Lozado had plenty of interesting things to say without being overly anti-Trump. I certainly don’t envy him his reading and writing assignments though. 150 books about the Trump era…how dreary.

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