A.B. Stoddard, Real Clear Politics associate editor and columnist (and Fox News panelist), joins the Remnant for an episode that manages to discuss the ins and outs of Congress and politics (without mentioning Paul Ryan because his return to the news cycle came after this podcast’s recording).

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  1. kedavis Member

    Criticizing specific things Trump does, for actual reasons, is one thing, but that’s not what a lot of people – including Jonah – seem to do, most of the time. And Jonah may not even realize he’s doing it, but it seems like an indicator of his “inner truth.” It’s all about Trump being “loathsome” for reasons unrelated to things he’s done that have brought best ever employment numbers, etc. It’s not about “I don’t like how he’s dealing with China,” it’s about Trump being “loathsome.” Or even if it starts out being about China, it still ends up with “loathsome.” Trump does what he does with China because he’s “loathsome,” or the way he does things with China makes him more “loathsome,” whatever. It never ends. And that’s not helpful. Not just to Trump, but to the country.

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    • July 18, 2019, at 11:01 AM PDT
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  2. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    It is annoying to be dismissed as part of an electorate that Stoddard calls “a cult of Trump.” It is annoying to be dismissed by Goldberg as not standing for “reasonable stuff.” It is even more annoying because, as far as I’ve seen, Goldberg believes that the policies of the Trump administration have been quite good if not excellent.

    These are two very experienced and smart observers of politics, but they come across as obtuse to me. I can’t figure out why. Perhaps they see something that I do not; perhaps they are unable to get over their initial negative reaction to Trump (which I would call “revulsion”).

    Interestingly, I shared the initial negative reaction to Trump. I was overwhelmingly opposed to him in the primaries. He was quite close to the bottom of the list for me. (Looking back at the list, I preferred 15 of his 16 opponents over Trump, with the only exception being Jim Gilmore, who I don’t really remember as a candidate.)

    Unlike others, however, I kept an open mind. The main driver of this was not Trump himself. It was my respect for the Trump enthusiasts. I thought that they were wrong, but I also knew that they were generally good people. 

    Rather than assume that they were “crazies” (as John McCain did) or otherwise horrible people, I thought that maybe they saw something that I did not. I shared their frustration about politics in general and the Republican party in particular. Trump eventually won me over, sufficient for me to vote for him (with trepidation) in the election. His performance in office has been excellent.

    I think that Goldberg and Stoddard have two major blind spots:

    1. They agree that party loyalty and teamwork is necessary to government, and decry the loss of power of party leaders in Congress — but then fail to see that Trump’s enforcement of “loyalty” is precisely the thing that they want. They just can’t seem to stand it when it is delivered by Trump.
    2. They lament the loss of “principles” among Republicans, generally referring to the type of limited government desired by the Tea Party folks, without noticing that Trump was largely a reaction to: (a) the establishment-type Republicans’ cynical use and betrayal of the Tea Party movement, and (b) the deceptive and slanderous tactics of the Left, including most of the media and the Democratic Party, in smearing and bullying the Tea Partiers as racist deplorables.

     

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    • July 20, 2019, at 10:01 AM PDT
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  3. kedavis Member

    Very well put. It would be nice if Jonah and A.B. could read that clearly and see themselves in the mirror. But at this point they’re probably beyond redemption. DC definitely seems to be a place of style above substance, at least for “conservatives.”

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    • July 21, 2019, at 7:28 PM PDT
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  4. Bishop Wash Member

    Bit of fun coincidence on my drive to an appointment. I was near the end of the episode and they start talking about their pets. As I exit the interstate, I fall behind a car with the vanity plate of LUVGLDN and a plate frame about golden retrievers. 

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    • July 22, 2019, at 8:58 AM PDT
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  5. Bishop Wash Member

    I’d like to know where these supposed principles the Republican Party is abandoning have been. They haven’t been on display for at least thirty years. The TEA party was a reaction to a lack of implementing the alleged principles of the party. As some have said, the TEA party was voters asking nicely and Trump is the voters asking not as nicely. 

    A lot of good is happening. I haven’t read the specifics but hearing about offices moving out of DC is a wonderful step in draining the swamp. 

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    • July 22, 2019, at 9:08 AM PDT
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  6. Full Size Tabby Member

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    and (b) the deceptive and slanderous tactics of the Left, including most of the media and the Democratic Party, in smearing and bullying the Tea Partiers as racist deplorables.

    I was disappointed that Ms. Stoddard and Mr. Goldberg made no mention of the abuse and scorn that the media and Democratic politicians have heaped onto people. Their silence implies that Mr. Goldberg and Ms. Stoddard apparently don’t think that’s a factor in how people react to current circumstances, and that they expect “conservatives” to continue playing by all the nicer-nice rules while getting beat about the ears with 2×4’s. I was frustrated by their failure to acknowledge that the brutal tactics of the Left bear at least some of the blame for the state of affairs they consider so terrible.

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    • July 22, 2019, at 11:27 AM PDT
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  7. Full Size Tabby Member

    The dog discussion almost got me to forget my frustration with some of the other parts of the interview! And I’m not a “dog person.” But I enjoy Mr. Goldberg’s discussions with fellow dog enthusiasts. 

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    • July 22, 2019, at 11:33 AM PDT
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