Did Beto blow it? Will the Republican Party survive Trump? Is Jonah dyspeptic? The 69thRemnant, with National Review senior political correspondent Jim Geraghty, attempts to answer these and other pressing questions.

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  1. Member

    I listen to Jonah on his Remnant podcast and the GLoP podcast and I still can’t believe how he misses some things. 

    Jonah seems to attribute the rise of Trump solely to his celebrity and brand. Yet, I believe if Trump was pro amnesty he would not have won the nomination at all (I think Scott Walker’s soft on immigration stance doomed his chances in 2016). 

    This ties into Jonah’s column about the decline of parties but ascent of partisanship. Jonah wants the party to be stronger but the party is weaker specifically because it wouldn’t do what we wanted it to do on the issue of immigration. The party knew what was good for us on that issue (George W Bush had to slapped on the nose by the base in 2006). 

    The party is supposed to be a vehicle for advancing the people’s beliefs. And the GOP largely failed that on immigration and Trump seized on that failure. It was not because Trump was in Home Alone or The Apprentice that we supported him. We supported him because he was actually listening to the rank and file instead of what the party was doing.

    This is a bizarre intellectual blind spot for Jonah.

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    • November 8, 2018 at 10:46 am
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  2. Coolidge

    Sam Houston was also a president!

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    • November 8, 2018 at 1:00 pm
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  3. Coolidge

    Beto-mania and straight ticket D voting led to closer statewide margins and local, down ballot defeats in Texas. Even Abbott underperformed against a loony opponent, not to mention the debacle of electing a poor man’s Alexandria Ocasio Cortez as Harris County Judge. Thankfully, Cruz put in a lot of work to mend fences post 2016 with the TX GOP and never took his reelection for granted.

    Also, great analysis on the fall of the parties. You can look at legislatures and tell which members are opposed to each other based on special interest allegiances even though they share the same party affiliation next to their names. Following up on Jim’s Koch bros story, the Texas Public Policy Foundation’s (TPPF), the main conservative think tank in Texas, priority this year was criminal justice reform (Right on Crime). I doubt that was a coincidence.

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    • November 8, 2018 at 1:50 pm
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    Texmoor (View Comment):

    Sam Houston was also a president!

    John C. Frémont was U.S. Senator from California, 1850–1851, and Governor of Arizona, 1878–1881, before Arizona was a state.

    Thomas Meade Bowen was U.S. Senator from Colorado, 1883–1889, and Governor of Idaho, 1871, before Idaho was a state.

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    • November 8, 2018 at 11:42 pm
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    Yeah, most states have elected two different parties statewide, but it is different for the United States Senate.

    Look at California, Texas, Washington, Mississippi, Connecticut, Idaho, etc.

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    • November 9, 2018 at 1:22 am
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  6. Coolidge

    Re the “human toothache” (heh) c. minute 30, I don’t think any commentator (left, right, or otherwise), post-2016, should ever again mention John Kasich without adding something like “John Kasich, who in 2016 stayed in the presidential primaries exactly long enough to play spoiler and guarantee that Trump would be the nominee, …”

    https://enjoymentandcontemplation.wordpress.com/2018/03/07/john-kasich-literally-the-worst/

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    • November 10, 2018 at 1:31 pm
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  7. Member

    Why in the hell is any Republican positive about John Kasich?

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    • November 11, 2018 at 3:29 pm
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    Maybe we should thank Kasich, because there seems to be a good chance that anyone else would have lost to Hillary.

    I think it’s a bigger problem, including on this site and even in the podcasts (take note, @peterrobinson !), to refer to the Democrats/Leftists as “progressive.” In reality they are anything but.

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    • November 11, 2018 at 3:44 pm
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    Joseph Stocks (View Comment):

    The party is supposed to be a vehicle for advancing the people’s beliefs. And the GOP largely failed that on immigration and Trump seized on that failure. It was not because Trump was in Home Alone or The Apprentice that we supported him. We supported him because he was actually listening to the rank and file instead of what the party was doing.

    This is a bizarre intellectual blind spot for Jonah.

    To take the last sentence first: You say that because you disagree with him. If he believes what he is saying – and, of course, he does – this can’t be a blind spot. The polls are on his side. Up until this election, what you call amnesty has always been a low priority for voters. It can be argued that Ted Crug had a better position on immigration on Trump. I was not just immigration that he ran and won on. And he did get a minority of Republican votes. He won because there so many candidates. I think you analysis is just wrong.

    As far as a party being a vehicle for advancing people’s beliefs is concerned: That is wrong, because, this being such a big country, how are they are to figure out what everybody thinks? A party’s aim is to get as many people to vote for them as possible. Candidates do that by advancing their own heartfelt beliefs, and hope that most people agree with them. That ideal thing does not always happen. But in a Republic like ours, we better hope it happens more times than not.

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    • November 12, 2018 at 5:31 am
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    Texmoor (View Comment):

    Sam Houston was also a president!

    Of Texas.

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    • November 12, 2018 at 5:32 am
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

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    To take the last sentence first: You say that because you disagree with him. If he believes what he is saying – and, of course, he does – this can’t be a blind spot.

    Just because Jonah may truly believe it, doesn’t mean he’s not wrong. And being wrong about something without realizing it, is just about the dictionary definition of “blind spot.”

    As far as a party being a vehicle for advancing people’s beliefs is concerned: That is wrong, because, this being such a big country, how are they are to figure out what everybody thinks? A party’s aim is to get as many people to vote for them as possible. Candidates do that by advancing their own heartfelt beliefs, and hope that most people agree with them. That ideal thing does not always happen. But in a Republic like ours, we better hope it happens more times than not.

    The problem there is that Republicans often end up being the party of bad-tasting medicine, while the Democrats are the PAR-TAY! of cookies and ice cream etc, all paid for by someone else.

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    • November 12, 2018 at 4:47 pm
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

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    To take the last sentence first: You say that because you disagree with him. If he believes what he is saying – and, of course, he does – this can’t be a blind spot.

    Just because Jonah may truly believe it, doesn’t mean he’s not wrong. And being wrong about something without realizing it, is just about the dictionary definition of “blind spot.”

    As far as a party being a vehicle for advancing people’s beliefs is concerned: That is wrong, because, this being such a big country, how are they are to figure out what everybody thinks? A party’s aim is to get as many people to vote for them as possible. Candidates do that by advancing their own heartfelt beliefs, and hope that most people agree with them. That ideal thing does not always happen. But in a Republic like ours, we better hope it happens more times than not.

    The problem there is that Republicans often end up being the party of bad-tasting medicine, while the Democrats are the PAR-TAY! of cookies and ice cream etc, all paid for by someone else.

    In your opinion he is wrong. In my opinion, he is right.

    I kind of agree with the second part of this: The Democrats are serving cake and ice cream, while the Republican message is a bit more complicated. I have heard it said that the Democrats represent the children of the nation. I wish I could argue with that.

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    • November 12, 2018 at 5:23 pm
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

     

    I kind of agree with the second part of this: The Democrats are serving cake and ice cream, while the Republican message is a bit more complicated. I have heard it said that the Democrats represent the children of the nation. I wish I could argue with that.

    And the top Democrats keep working to make more and more people into children. It sure didn’t start with that one guy who asked Bill Clinton to “treat us like your children.”

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    • November 12, 2018 at 5:44 pm
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    George Townsend (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    George Townsend (View Comment):

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    To take the last sentence first: You say that because you disagree with him. If he believes what he is saying – and, of course, he does – this can’t be a blind spot.

    Just because Jonah may truly believe it, doesn’t mean he’s not wrong. And being wrong about something without realizing it, is just about the dictionary definition of “blind spot.”

    In your opinion he is wrong. In my opinion, he is right.

    How do you explain Trump’s election counts? All those people saw Home Alone or The Apprentice? Speaking for myself, I never saw either of them.

    Jonah might think people could only vote for Trump because they saw The Apprentice or Home Alone, but Jonah only seems able to think of Trump as “loathsome” so that’s just projection on his part, and doesn’t lead to accurate conclusions any more than when the Left does it.

     

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    • November 12, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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