Through the magic of the internet, AEI’s Lyman Stone joins The Remnant all the way from Hong Kong to talk all things coronavirus: how we got here, the numbers, China’s role in the outbreak, and where we go from here.

 

Show Notes:

Lyman’s work at AEI

Hong Kong’s relative laxity during the pandemic

Problems with getting an accurate coronavirus death count

Siddhartha Sanghi retracts his claim about reduced deaths from social distancing

Chinese doctors disappearing

Jim Geraghty’s reporting on the Wuhan virology lab

Fauci Truthers

NY churches being “converted,” if you will, to field hospitals

Taiwan’s coronavirus travel ban policy

John Barry’s book on the 1918 flu

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  1. RS711 Listener

    This was a great podcast. Lyman really knows his stuff. It was an interesting point that closing the schools and limiting crowds takes away most of the danger and that mass quarantines are not really needed.

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    • April 8, 2020, at 5:40 AM PDT
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  2. La Tapada Member

    I listen to almost any podcast with Lyman Stone as guest. He does know his stuff and he always has interesting insights.

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    • April 8, 2020, at 6:35 PM PDT
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  3. kedavis Member

    La Tapada (View Comment):

    I listen to almost any podcast with Lyman Stone as guest. He does know his stuff and he always has interesting insights.

    I suppose. But is there any reason to believe he has a special handle on a virus, just because he’s at AEI, and/or because he’s currently in Hong Kong?

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    • April 8, 2020, at 8:58 PM PDT
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  4. La Tapada Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    La Tapada (View Comment):

    I listen to almost any podcast with Lyman Stone as guest. He does know his stuff and he always has interesting insights.

    I suppose. But is there any reason to believe he has a special handle on a virus, just because he’s at AEI, and/or because he’s currently in Hong Kong?

    No, it’s because he is a demographics and statistics expert and can explain it so well to us commoners. An example is how he explained that statistics gathered by the states (including coronavirus numbers we are currently hearing in the news) are revised several times over several months before they are considered final.

    But I was really surprised to hear him saying we should have people forcibly quarantined.

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    • April 9, 2020, at 5:40 PM PDT
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  5. kedavis Member

    Well I think he’s correct that a lot of people will be theorizing about the measures that were taken and their effectiveness, but I think he’s wrong that they will be objectively provable.

    Anyone who claims, at any time in the future, that they KNOW and PROVED that such-and-such measures were unnecessary, or ineffective, or cost-more-than-they-were-worth, etc, is just talking from the seat of their pants. Just like the people who are making those claims NOW.

    There’s too much fluidity in everything, and too many unquantifiable unknowns – and just too much where nobody really knows what the numbers really were – for them to do any more than writing papers to impress each other. Statisticians like to “apply factors” and “control for” one thing or another, but those are also just theories made up by other statisticians based on theories they can’t prove.

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    • April 10, 2020, at 12:10 AM PDT
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