AEI and Institute for Family Studies fellow Lyman Stone joins the Remnant to help make the case for expanding the House of Representatives, to discuss the self-identification of population groups, and to ponder Hong Kong’s future.

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  1. kedavis Member

    Jonah and Lyman Stone both seemed to base their arguments on expanding the size of the House, on assumptions such as that interested parties – corporations, large employers, wealthy donors, etc – only have or want to have influence with the representative of their own particular district. Leaving aside that large employers and corporations tend to exist in multiple districts, even looking at the current situation demonstrates that this assumption is complete bunk. And basing the argument on such bunk, destroys the argument.

    Perhaps if it were possible to limit political fundraising to employers etc who are actually present in a district, there might be a point. But that might be constitutionally untenable, and would certainly be opposed by the current crop of legislators who wouldn’t want to so drastically limit their fundraising.

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    • August 8, 2019, at 3:52 PM PDT
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  2. Miffed White Male Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Jonah and Lyman Stone both seemed to base their arguments on expanding the size of the House, on assumptions such as that interested parties – corporations, large employers, wealthy donors, etc – only have or want to have influence with the representative of their own particular district. Leaving aside that large employers and corporations tend to exist in multiple districts, even looking at the current situation demonstrates that this assumption is complete bunk. And basing the argument on such bunk, destroys the argument.

    Perhaps if it were possible to limit political fundraising to employers etc who are actually present in a district, there might be a point. But that might be constitutionally untenable, and would certainly be opposed by the current crop of legislators who wouldn’t want to so drastically limit their fundraising.

    I haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but…

    How about removing all limits on how much an individual donor can donate to any candidate.

    But:

    Only individuals who are eligible to vote for a candidate can donate. i.e. if you don’t live in the district (state for Senators), you can’t donate.

    Would their be Constitutional problems with that?

     

     

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    • August 8, 2019, at 4:08 PM PDT
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  3. kedavis Member

    Maybe not constitutional problems. But again, the current legislators – house and senate – would never pass it. It would cut way back on their fundraising from outside their district. And many of them might end up with no significant donor base at all, depending on the employment situation etc where they come from. I can especially see that in large minority areas that don’t have much employment to start with. So that would instantly flag it as “racist.”

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    • August 8, 2019, at 6:11 PM PDT
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  4. Miffed White Male Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Maybe not constitutional problems. But again, the current legislators – house and senate – would never pass it. It would cut way back on their fundraising from outside their district. And many of them might end up with no significant donor base at all, depending on the employment situation etc where they come from. I can especially see that in large minority areas that don’t have much employment to start with. So that would instantly flag it as “racist.”

    Yes, but their opponents would have the same funding challenges, so it would be a level playing field. Probably more level than it is today, when out-of-town/out-of-state PACs can flood money in to one side or the other.

     

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  5. Petty Boozswha Member

    One more reason to push for expanding the House; if Republicans win another term or two terms in the White House with a 3 million vote deficit in the popular vote we will be facing a revolution. I’m not very good at math but wouldn’t increasing the number of House members ameliorate some of the rural bias in the Electoral College?

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    • August 8, 2019, at 6:31 PM PDT
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  6. kedavis Member

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Yes, but their opponents would have the same funding challenges, so it would be a level playing field. Probably more level than it is today, when out-of-town/out-of-state PACs can flood money in to one side or the other.

     

    That might sound like a nice theory, but in practice I don’t think it works. It ends up being like expecting small states to go along with leftist plans to eliminate the Electoral College. Democrats/leftists, I think in particular, often rely on out-of-state/district fundraising for their offices – as well as for legislation at federal, state, and even local levels – because they may not really be all that popular where they are. In cases I can think of easily, they are more popular with large left-leaning donors – in PRC (People’s Republic of California), for example -to support “social justice” stuff that they couldn’t get a lot of fundraising for in the areas they want to affect – Detroit, for example -because those areas are full of people who have been made poor by the PREVIOUS “social justice” stuff and have no money to contribute.

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    • August 8, 2019, at 6:32 PM PDT
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  7. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Petty Boozswha (View Comment):

    if Republicans win another term or two terms in the White House with a 3 million vote deficit in the popular vote we will be facing a revolution.

    The Electoral College will simply uncover the violent faction (domestic terrorists?) of the country that refuses the play by the rules?

    Wow, the Electoral College is the gift that just keeps on giving.

    I don’t wish there to be violence, but it takes quite a lot for there to be a revolution. Only the most extreme of the most extreme are willing to use their physical bodies in such ways.

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  8. RebeccaCoffey Thatcher

    Fascinating podcast. I have a lot to mull over before I take a position on expanding the House of Representatives. However, I have no doubt about the superiority of the Oxford comma. 

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  9. Burwick Chiffswiddle Member

    I’m shameless.

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    • August 11, 2019, at 6:22 AM PDT
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  10. Joseph Eagar Member

    One of the things more “ethnic” Americans need to understand is that there is a culture (well, multiple cultures) of white people who don’t have a clear ethnic background and traditionally identified as either white or American. For a while our elites did a pretty good job at encouraging them to identify as American, but then the left started attacking that as racist. So here we are.

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  11. RS711 Listener

    That dude who ditches his German stuff for the Scotch stuff is one of the dumbest things ever. I also agree with this white identity nonsense. There is no “European” culture. There is no “African” culture either. 

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  12. Arahant Member

    Burwick Chiffswiddle (View Comment):

    I’m shameless.

    Fine job.

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    • August 16, 2019, at 2:41 AM PDT
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  13. Arahant Member

    RS711 (View Comment):

    That dude who ditches his German stuff for the Scotch stuff is one of the dumbest things ever. I also agree with this white identity nonsense. There is no “European” culture. There is no “African” culture either.

    Too true.

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  14. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    RS711 (View Comment):

    That dude who ditches his German stuff for the Scotch stuff is one of the dumbest things ever. I also agree with this white identity nonsense. There is no “European” culture. There is no “African” culture either.

    Too true.

    Well, maybe. How many democratic/republican (small r) governments and free economies are there in Africa?

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    • August 16, 2019, at 8:50 PM PDT
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  15. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Well, maybe. How many democratic/republican (small r) governments and free economies are there in Africa?

    There have been times when there were zero of those in Europe or North America.

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    • August 16, 2019, at 10:47 PM PDT
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  16. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Well, maybe. How many democratic/republican (small r) governments and free economies are there in Africa?

    There have been times when there were zero of those in Europe or North America.

    I think we’re mostly concerned with the past few centuries, up to the present.

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  17. Arahant Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Well, maybe. How many democratic/republican (small r) governments and free economies are there in Africa?

    There have been times when there were zero of those in Europe or North America.

    I think we’re mostly concerned with the past few centuries, up to the present.

    Still, never been a single culture in either place. Europe may have experienced the Enlightenment, which makes it more susceptible to some ideas that lessen corruption, but it was not “The European” Enlightenment. It came in waves of transmission and translations of ideas.

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    • August 17, 2019, at 6:02 AM PDT
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  18. Arahant Member

    Now, Europe can mostly be considered a single civilization (most of it with at least two other civilizations overlapping into it). But that is not the same as a single culture.

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    • August 17, 2019, at 6:04 AM PDT
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  19. kedavis Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Now, Europe can mostly be considered a single civilization (most of it with at least two other civilizations overlapping into it). But that is not the same as a single culture.

    I’m less interested in how a culture makes their food and clothes, than in how they govern themselves. In that sense, there is “the European culture” that has been far ahead of “the African culture” for a very long time and remains so today.

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    • August 17, 2019, at 10:29 PM PDT
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