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  1. filmklassik Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Interesting that that is considered enough to end the conversation. Amazing.

    Ask me a question, then.

    I have no question, just a request.  Please offer a better and more persuasive rebuttal to the Nixon comparison than calling it “False.”

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Thought Leader Member
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    filmklassik (View Comment):
    It’s similar to a tendency I’ve been seeing on the Internet a lot lately, particularly in political disputes, where when one person offers up an unassailable fact or analogy to support their argument that the other person has no real rebuttal for, the checkmated person often defaults to a very Gary Cooper like, “Nope,” and leaves it at that.

    It was just another non-sequitur from a man who’s becoming famous for them.

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  3. RufusRJones Member
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    filmklassik (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    Interesting that that is considered enough to end the conversation. Amazing.

    Ask me a question, then.

    I have no question, just a request. Please offer a better and more persuasive rebuttal to the Nixon comparison than calling it “False.”

    Fair enough. I thought it was obvious. 

    In both Nixon and Clinton there were obvious andspecific “crimes” to point to. All the Democrats are doing is fishing around for one or some with government resources. It’s very different.

    I never get any reaction but I think those videos I posted in # 28 are compelling. Reagan was right in a “Time For Choosing” but I’m not sure much got done in reality.

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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Thought Leader Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Fair enough. I thought it was obvious. 

    It was.

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  5. Gary Robbins Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):
    It is certainly the fault of stupid Trump primary voters.

    By definition, since Trump didn’t get a majority of the primary votes, it couldn’t possibly be the fault of the “stupid Trump Primary voters” that Trump won the nomination.

    It’s the fault of the stupid majority of non-Trump voters who couldn’t get their act together and kept splitting their votes instead of coalescing around a single candidate.

    Agreed.  Trump to his credit was audacious and kept moving forward like a tank.  I  appreciate his feral cunning.  

    The non-Trump majority did not unite against him until too late.  I would have much preferred a Cruz-Rubio or Cruz-Kasich or Rubio-Kasich, etc. ticket.  We are going to have the Albatross around our necks for a long, long time.

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Thought Leader Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We are going to have the Albatross around our necks for a long, long time.

    A large and mighty ocean bird!

    Image result for Albatross

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    his feral cunning.

    Well done Gary. lol

    The non-Trump majority did not unite against him until too late. I would have much preferred a Cruz-Rubio or Cruz-Kasich or Rubio-Kasich, etc. ticket.

    The whole process is so goofy. It’s like roller derby or something. 

    We are going to have the Albatross around our necks for a long, long time.

    You always have so much certitude about this stuff.

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  8. Joe D. Inactive
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    I think a lot of the Republican elite did not like Cruz every bit as much as they did not like Trump and so they refused to properly back Cruz and we ended up with Trump. I like probably about everyone wish Trump would tweet less, but I do think the efforts to impeach him are incredulous.

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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    Just for the record I just heard something about this impeachment “inquiry”. The status of the law is the same thing when Eric Holder ignored the subpoenas before. Nobody is going to do anything .Trump can ignore them just like that. 

    They have to vote otherwise the president won’t get fair due process. I think that also forces them to name crimes which they still don’t have after Multi eight-figure sums spent going after him.

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    Trump wasn’t responsible for all of the election damage in 2018. 

     

     

     

     

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    filmklassik (View Comment):
    But take Jonah Goldberg as an example — what political beliefs does Jonah espouse that are not Conservative?

    Well, if we’re going to use Reagan as some kind of example – the Shining Conservative On The Hill, perhaps? – then, just for starters, Jonah clearly doesn’t believe in the 11th Commandment.  And that is likely far more toxic than just disagreeing on certain issue details.

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  12. Charlotte Member
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    Re The Dispatch, I guess I don’t really get it. I sincerely wish them well, but they need to up their sales pitch game. Jonah never sounds like he has any idea what their product is or what their objectives are. Other than the no-clickbait thing (yay!), what will distinguish The Dispatch from all the other right-of-center media? How is it not just cannibalizing pundits and punditry from within the same limited pool of conservative writers?

    As I said, I don’t get it.

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  13. Bishop Wash Member
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Re The Dispatch, I guess I don’t really get it. I sincerely wish them well, but they need to up their sales pitch game. Jonah never sounds like he has any idea what their product is or what their objectives are. Other than the no-clickbait thing (yay!), what will distinguish The Dispatch from all the other right-of-center media? How is it not just cannibalizing pundits and punditry from within the same limited pool of conservative writers?

    As I said, I don’t get it.

    Yeah, at times it sounded like Ricochet. We’re going to have a lot of podcasts and we want to be able to intelligently interact with our subscribers. 

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Re The Dispatch, I guess I don’t really get it. I sincerely wish them well, but they need to up their sales pitch game. Jonah never sounds like he has any idea what their product is or what their objectives are. Other than the no-clickbait thing (yay!), what will distinguish The Dispatch from all the other right-of-center media? How is it not just cannibalizing pundits and punditry from within the same limited pool of conservative writers?

    As I said, I don’t get it.

    In the still-most-recent GLoP podcast, much was made of the idea that (the financially dubious, to say the least) We Work isn’t really new or anything, and maybe it’s just millenials and silicon-valley types trying to do what has already been done before, perhaps several times, but they’re doing it in some millennial or silicon-valley way that – to them, at least – makes it “special” and “better than any previous attempt.”  And at the very least, maybe THEY can make a bunch of money from it too, like the early We Work and Uber founders etc have, before it perhaps inevitably collapses.  It wouldn’t surprise me if Jonah, especially, has convinced himself of that.

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  15. Jeff Hawkins Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I’m distinguishing him from those guys on that Niskanen Center list, they are ridiculous. Kristol, Nichols, Charon etc.

    Another way to put it is, I’d be very confident of things running well if Jonah, or Kevin Williamson, or Charles CW Cook were named dictators of everything. I always welcome what they have to say about Trump.

    I’m not sure I can clarify it any better, but I think it matters.

    fair, but I’m not so certain I wouldn’t stick him with Kristol, but I’d give Jonah benefit of the doubt.  I like him, I just don’t think “anti-Trump conservatism” will be the thing that sets us free and does even more harm to his goals than Trump does to his goals.  The mob with torches and pitchforks is bad, but when they show up you don’t turn to their target and say “you know, if you had been a little nicer, we wouldn’t be here right now”

    But, there’s no way if Williamson was made dictator he wouldn’t have everyone killed but himself. :)

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    his feral cunning.

    Well done Gary. lol

    The non-Trump majority did not unite against him until too late. I would have much preferred a Cruz-Rubio or Cruz-Kasich or Rubio-Kasich, etc. ticket.

    The whole process is so goofy. It’s like roller derby or something. 

    I don’t think “the process” was ever designed or expected to work out nicely when there are over a dozen primary candidates.  And it’s not just that some of them should have gotten out sooner.  Most of them really had no business getting in to start with.  But at least now the dems are doing the same thing.

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  17. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    his feral cunning.

    Well done Gary. lol

    The non-Trump majority did not unite against him until too late. I would have much preferred a Cruz-Rubio or Cruz-Kasich or Rubio-Kasich, etc. ticket.

    The whole process is so goofy. It’s like roller derby or something.

    I don’t think “the process” was ever designed or expected to work out nicely when there are over a dozen primary candidates. And it’s not just that some of them should have gotten out sooner. Most of them really had no business getting in to start with. But at least now the dems are doing the same thing.

    Supposedly this has to do with the parties getting weaker from McCain-Feingold or something.

    It’s pretty clear that somebody needs to think about this more. They have to do something.

    I think Trump would have lost a national two-stage primary, which is one solution.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Another way to put it is, I’d be very confident of things running well if Jonah, or Kevin Williamson, or Charles CW Cook were named dictators of everything. I always welcome what they have to say about Trump.

    I’m not sure I can clarify it any better, but I think it matters.

    fair, but I’m not so certain I wouldn’t stick him with Kristol, but I’d give Jonah benefit of the doubt. I like him, I just don’t think “anti-Trump conservatism” will be the thing that sets us free and does even more harm to his goals than Trump does to his goals. …

    But, there’s no way if Williamson was made dictator he wouldn’t have everyone killed but himself. :)

    I suspect that Jonah, in his own ways, has somewhat leftist ideas of how the country COULD be, because he seems to assume that his type of lifestyle is far more common than it really is.  And that, if it’s not already common, it COULD be, perhaps just by him – as dictator – declaring it so.  But the bottom line is there’s not enough fine wine and cigars and such, for everyone to live like Jonah, even if they could somehow magically “afford” it.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Trump wasn’t responsible for all of the election damage in 2018.

     

     

     

     

    As I responded to this post/video on The Ricochet Podcast thread, Nothing new to me. But I’m not aware of any way to force PRC (People’s Republic of California) to have honest elections. Not from the outside, on a federal level. Any such attempt within the state would be doomed because the baddies far outnumber the good guys.

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    But take Jonah Goldberg as an example — what political beliefs does Jonah espouse that are not Conservative?

     then, just for starters, Jonah clearly doesn’t believe in the 11th Commandment. And that is likely far more toxic than just disagreeing on certain issue details.

    Hey, does the President believe in the 11th Commandment? And if the head of the party doesn’t, why should anyone else?

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    And at the very least, maybe THEY can make a bunch of money from it too, like the early We Work and Uber founders etc have, before it perhaps inevitably collapses. It wouldn’t surprise me if Jonah, especially, has convinced himself of that.

    Trust me on this because I speak from experience: NO ONE starts a Conservative media company because they think “they can make a bunch of money.” If that’s your goal, this would be the last idea you would come up with. 

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    But take Jonah Goldberg as an example — what political beliefs does Jonah espouse that are not Conservative?

    then, just for starters, Jonah clearly doesn’t believe in the 11th Commandment. And that is likely far more toxic than just disagreeing on certain issue details.

    Hey, does the President believe in the 11th Commandment? And if the head of the party doesn’t, why should anyone else?

    But I thought Jonah and others aspired/claimed to be BETTER than Trump.

    Anyway it would be different if the criticisms of Trump were limited to policy issues, etc.  But the most common terms used are just personal, such as “loathsome.”

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  23. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment)

    But I thought Jonah and others aspired/claimed to be BETTER than Trump.

    You are misinformed. 

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment)

    But I thought Jonah and others aspired/claimed to be BETTER than Trump.

    You are misinformed.

    You don’t think Jonah thinks he’s better than Trump?  i.e., You think Jonah would describe HIMSELF as “loathsome,” “icky,” etc?  That’s sure not the impression I get.

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    And at the very least, maybe THEY can make a bunch of money from it too, like the early We Work and Uber founders etc have, before it perhaps inevitably collapses. It wouldn’t surprise me if Jonah, especially, has convinced himself of that.

    Trust me on this because I speak from experience: NO ONE starts a Conservative media company because they think “they can make a bunch of money.” If that’s your goal, this would be the last idea you would come up with.

    I don’t know, Bill Kristol et al seem to do okay.  As did Bill Buckley for another example. We’re not talking about the general writers and other “peons” here, Jonah is going to be (one of the) top dog(s). 

    I can’t wait to hear the stories from other writers about how Jonah approached THEM to write something for free, because it would be “a good thing for them.”

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  26. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Anyway it would be different if the criticisms of Trump were limited to policy issues, etc. But the most common terms used are just personal, such as “loathsome.”

    One, I highly doubt that you are keeping a spreadsheet of Jonah’s most commonly used adjectives to describe the President. You are making a purely subjective and anecdotal criticism that is not based in fact at all. And two, if you want to stand up and defend Trump on his personal merits, well, have at it.

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  27. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):
    But take Jonah Goldberg as an example — what political beliefs does Jonah espouse that are not Conservative?

    Well, if we’re going to use Reagan as some kind of example – the Shining Conservative On The Hill, perhaps? – then, just for starters, Jonah clearly doesn’t believe in the 11th Commandment. And that is likely far more toxic than just disagreeing on certain issue details.

    With all of his toxic tweets, Trump has broken Reagan’s 11th Commandment.  After Trump departs the scene, I hope that we can restore the 11th Commandment.  But for now, to follow it unilaterally would mean that I and others would be disarmed.

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  28. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    his feral cunning.

    Well done Gary. lol

    The non-Trump majority did not unite against him until too late. I would have much preferred a Cruz-Rubio or Cruz-Kasich or Rubio-Kasich, etc. ticket.

    The whole process is so goofy. It’s like roller derby or something.

    I don’t think “the process” was ever designed or expected to work out nicely when there are over a dozen primary candidates. And it’s not just that some of them should have gotten out sooner. Most of them really had no business getting in to start with. But at least now the dems are doing the same thing.

    If there had been more of a pause between primaries, we would have all benefited.  

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  29. Gary Robbins Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    his feral cunning.

    Well done Gary. lol

    The non-Trump majority did not unite against him until too late. I would have much preferred a Cruz-Rubio or Cruz-Kasich or Rubio-Kasich, etc. ticket.

    The whole process is so goofy. It’s like roller derby or something.

    I don’t think “the process” was ever designed or expected to work out nicely when there are over a dozen primary candidates. And it’s not just that some of them should have gotten out sooner. Most of them really had no business getting in to start with. But at least now the dems are doing the same thing.

    Supposedly this has to do with the parties getting weaker from McCain-Feingold or something.

    It’s pretty clear that somebody needs to think about this more. They have to do something.

    I think Trump would have lost a national two-stage primary, which is one solution.

    You will recall that once we got down to just Cruz, Kasich and Trump, Trump refused to debate.  

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  30. DrewInWisconsin, Thought Leader Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    With all of his toxic tweets, Trump has broken Reagan’s 11th Commandment. After Trump departs the scene, I hope that we can restore the 11th Commandment. But for now, to follow it unilaterally would mean that I and others would be disarmed.

    And we must make sure that you are armed with devastating Tweets!

    • #90
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